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headscratcher4
11th January 2005, 07:43 AM
http://www.machinadynamica.com/machina29.htm

of this thing? Any opinions? Does it work?

richardm
11th January 2005, 08:06 AM
Originally posted by headscratcher4
Does it work?

I'm not an expert, but I'm guessing that the answer is "No".

CurtC
11th January 2005, 08:16 AM
the Magic Ring operates on the principle of "energy organization" in materials that conduct "signal" or electricity, as opposed to magnetism or vibration control, for example. The Magic Ring illuminates and expands the soundstage, lowers distortion and improves dynamics, especially microdynamics. Need anyone say more?

This looks like a big ferrite bead, which is something that can be used to suppress high-frequency oscillations (and reduce noise) in a cable. However, ferrite beads are meant to be placed around one conductor only, so that the current in the wire induces a magnetic field in the ferrite, which is lossy and reduces the high-frequency signals.

But with speaker wires, both conductors would be contained inside the Magic Ring, so there would be no effect, even if this thing is a ferrite material. That's good, because I don't want high frequencies reduced in my sound system.

headscratcher4
11th January 2005, 08:25 AM
So, this product seems to be targeted at people who likely know thier equipment and would seemingly dismiss it...so who would buy this?

Hellbound
11th January 2005, 08:33 AM
Originally posted by CurtC
Need anyone say more?

This looks like a big ferrite bead, which is something that can be used to suppress high-frequency oscillations (and reduce noise) in a cable. However, ferrite beads are meant to be placed around one conductor only, so that the current in the wire induces a magnetic field in the ferrite, which is lossy and reduces the high-frequency signals.

But with speaker wires, both conductors would be contained inside the Magic Ring, so there would be no effect, even if this thing is a ferrite material. That's good, because I don't want high frequencies reduced in my sound system.

I don't know the specifics of how any of this works, but I've often seen ring magnets on computer cabling...typically dual-wire cables. The cable will go through the ring, loop around it, and back through (hope that description works). This is supposed to reduce outside interference, and operates with both cables through the ring. It's pretty standard...you're almost garaunteed to see it if you ever crack open an external drive.

In any case, I have no idea how the product in question works, but there might be a reason to run multiple conductors through/around a megnetic ring. I dunno.

Bodhi Dharma Zen
11th January 2005, 09:08 AM
Some so called audiophiles will believe the most absurd things. In the case of this device, its useless. Give me one DBT in which the audiophile can pick when the device is on the chain EVERYTIME and I will be convinced... "expands the soundstage" seems verifiable... or it is not??

:D

Yaotl
11th January 2005, 09:15 AM
The fact that it's supposed to be directional is a big clue to it's effectiveness.

patnray
11th January 2005, 11:09 AM
The Lorax said,
Sir! You are crazy with greed.
There is no one on earth
who would buy that fool Thneed!
But the very next minute I proved he was wrong.
For, just at that minute, a chap came along,
and he thought that the Thneed I had knitted was great.
He happily bought it for three ninety-eight.
I laughed at the Lorax, You poor stupid guy!
You never can tell what some people will buy.

jj
11th January 2005, 12:54 PM
Originally posted by headscratcher4
http://www.machinadynamica.com/machina29.htm

of this thing? Any opinions? Does it work?

:dl:

So, Headscratcher, did you ever go to www.belt.demon.co.uk ?

I make it a policy generally not to comment on these things, but I don't own one and I'm not rushing to buy one, either.

Bodhi Dharma Zen
11th January 2005, 12:56 PM
It is designed to cancel RF signals, but then again, if the difference in sound is not tangible, it is worthless. Unless, of course, one have "golden ears" and can listen (not in a DBT of course :D ) incredible small details...


Sureee.....................

TillEulenspiegel
11th January 2005, 03:05 PM
The thing is basically crap. The ad ( as usual ) contains enough information to sound plausible but the interpretation is gobble-D-gook.
The crowbar their trying to wield is a real phenomenon . That is induced RFI ( radio frequency interference). Huntsman mentioned toroid magnets , well there not magnets but ferrite and the looping of an inductor ( the wire) around a ferrite torus or "bead" induces phase cancellation in the wire and the ferrite absorbs it.

Now that's not important in some power supplies (linear) or most analog amps , but once you get into the equipment that is digital and operates at MHZ. ranges it is important. Most modern power supplies are what are called "switching" supplies. Meaning that are a digital and analog device , most HI-Power amps also use MHZ range switching. The thing is that RFI can introduce "artifacts" into digital power supplies, amps and computers.

That's their plan of attack , use real science , apply it wrongly and wait for the $$ to roll in.
I haven't been overly pedantic , in fact I painted a simplistic picture and left much out as to be understandable. That's how they foist this crap on the public.

CBL4
11th January 2005, 03:40 PM
Is there any source audio reviews that is free from this type of crap?

CBL

EdipisReks
12th January 2005, 10:06 PM
no, it doesn't work.