Yellow Bamboo Challenge

[-=Vagrant=-]

Originally posted by petpower_2k
CFLarsen, if you know anyone in Sweden, they can attend my next YB demo, and do the test themselves if they want to.

ybsweden

Would it be in Stockholm, by any chance?

[jmercer]

Originally posted by Phrost
In many situations, it's just difficult to get someone who espouses woo to step up to the plate. They often cite excuses such as "it's too deadly to demonstrate" or "martial arts are not about fighting".

However, it does happen occasionally. Here's a video of someone who managed to get a practicioner of "Rad Ki" to try and prove he could do a Chi knockdown attack, and then use Chi effectively in sparring:

http://www.bullshido.com/videos/radkichallenge.mov

Excellent clip! I'd love to pass the link along to a group of people with your permission.

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by -=Vagrant=-
Would it be in Stockholm, by any chance?

I've spoken with Alvin Donovan from Yellow Bamboo, and after the failed test in Sweden, he now concedes that YB cannot be used for "protection".

[Moose]

Originally posted by Donks
Somebody has watched waaaay too much Dragon Ball. Though, if he had screamed Kame Hame Ha!! his attacks would have surely worked :D
No wonder only one guy has taken the challenge, it must be hard to find someone dumb enough to be willing to get punched while defending using anime techniques.

I love how Animédude had to be corrected on how to correctly pronounce "chi". :D

Man, that rocked.

*WHAP* (Animédude staggers back a few meters.)

"Did that hurt?"

(wobbly) "Yeah."

(momentary pause) "Are you done?"

(still shaken) "Yeah."

"Good."

[-=Vagrant=-]

I remember a few years back when I roamed in Unexplainedphenomenom.com and read what these psi-ball kids talked about. I had no idea they are willing to actually test it with someone. Its so easy to see it doesn't work, so I wonder how they convince themselves that they still have the ability?

[-=Vagrant=-]

Originally posted by CFLarsen
I've spoken with Alvin Donovan from Yellow Bamboo, and after the failed test in Sweden, he now concedes that YB cannot be used for "protection".

Oh well. I would have loved to personally see it in lack-of-action.

[TheBoyPaj]

Originally posted by CFLarsen
I've spoken with Alvin Donovan from Yellow Bamboo, and after the failed test in Sweden, he now concedes that YB cannot be used for "protection".

Maybe they should change the advert on their web page:

from www.Yellowbamboo.com (http://www.yellowbamboo.com)
Protection for yourself and others. With Yellow Bamboo you can learn very powerful methods to protect yourself and others. If you watch the videos you will see that it is possible to knock down attackers without touching them. This is a very powerful form of personal development.

I predict that it may be some time before this page reflects their revised opinion.

[CFLarsen]

I'm keeping an eye on it.

If it doesn't change in the foreseeable future, I will contact Donovan again.

[Skepiroth]

Originally posted by CFLarsen
I've spoken with Alvin Donovan from Yellow Bamboo, and after the failed test in Sweden, he now concedes that YB cannot be used for "protection".

why would anyone want to study it then? I thought the entire point of practicing YB was to be able to knock people down when they screaming whilst running towards you from 10 m away. Oh wait, there is the healing part. I hope no one is dumb enough to take the "YB vs. snakebite" challenge.

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by new skeptic
I hope no one is dumb enough to take the "YB vs. snakebite" challenge.

We'd never test for something that would endanger anyone.

If YB tried to do something like that in Denmark, I'd report them to the police immediately. There are limits to stupidity.

[Atlas]

Originally posted by CFLarsen
There are limits to stupidity. Evidence? :p

[Skepiroth]

ooops if that is how what I said came out, I must have misworded. I should have said "I just hope no one tries to heal a snakebite victim with their 'energy' instead of performing first aid and/or seeking medical attention"

[jmercer]

Originally posted by Atlas
Evidence? :p

Only the smarter ones make it to the Darwin awards. The rest just ... disappear... :D

[lylfyl]

Originally posted by CFLarsen
I've spoken with Alvin Donovan from Yellow Bamboo, and after the failed test in Sweden, he now concedes that YB cannot be used for "protection".

Obviously since this works when they're training against each other, maybe the correct conclusion is that training in Yellow Bamboo enables you to be knocked down when running at an opponent. You know, defying inertia, or somesuch.

Clearly CFLarsen's test is backwards. The YB practioner should run wildly full speed at the martial artist and see how often they get knocked on their a$$ while failing to hit the MA. They win the million dollars if it is more often than chance!

[thatguywhojuggles]

I used to have a quote on my sig that read:

"Try drinking some pepsi" in response to someone who was asking how they could increase the power of their psi ball.

I miss being a kid. Fantasy world is fun to play in.

[feyd rautha]

wow what a fight larsen, great tactics:

1.Hiding
2.Nitpicking about minor details for weeks
3.Trying to send someone other (a trained fighter)
4.claiming something without evidence:

I've spoken with Alvin Donovan from Yellow Bamboo, and after the failed test in Sweden, he now concedes that YB cannot be used for "protection".

5.Talking about running to the police if the challenger takes a risk (mimmicing responsibility)and insult him in the same paragraph:

If YB tried to do something like that in Denmark, I'd report them to the police immediately. There are limits to stupidity.


you must be a joke man, are all danish men pussies like you or are you an exception? but i had a good laugh reading this 7 pages, you are a great example of a hypocrite.

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by feyd rautha
1.Hiding

I'm not hiding. I am right here. YB, on the other hand, are the ones running away.

Originally posted by feyd rautha
2.Nitpicking about minor details for weeks

Not nitpicking at all. It isn't easy to design a fair test that will eliminate cheating.

Originally posted by feyd rautha
3.Trying to send someone other (a trained fighter)

YB said nothing about the qualifications of the "attacker". YB also agreed to using one such. It would also be very inappropriate for me to both design and participate in the test. How could I defend myself against accusations that I had rigged my own test?

Originally posted by feyd rautha
4.claiming something without evidence:

It's from an email. You can ask Donovan if I am wrong.

Originally posted by feyd rautha
5.Talking about running to the police if the challenger takes a risk (mimmicing responsibility)and insult him in the same paragraph:

We are not talking about mimicking anything, we are talking about real danger.

Originally posted by feyd rautha
you must be a joke man, are all danish men pussies like you or are you an exception? but i had a good laugh reading this 7 pages, you are a great example of a hypocrite.

Thank you for your input.

[Patricio Elicer]

I signed up for YB mailing list some time ago. Just today I got an email from them with a spectacular offer: a "Training Package", and a list of benefits:

* More success in all areas of your life, personal, financial, relationships etc
* Ability to influence others to get them to do what you want
* The ability to get others to fall in love with you
* Build the fire within and expand your aura
* Achievement of the super conscious state
* The semadhi experience or union with God
* Further increase your internal power
* Development of telepathic abilities
* The ability to see into the future
* Ability to see at a distance
* Unite your soul with nature

WOW! (the third one is interesting, I'll buy it :D)

At least they don't mention the ability to repel an attacker without actually touching him.

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by Patricio Elicer
At least they don't mention the ability to repel an attacker without actually touching him.

One down... :)

I see other testable claims, though:

* Build the fire within and expand your aura

This is testable: We can test who has had his aura expanded or not.

* Development of telepathic abilities

This is testable.

* The ability to see into the future

This is testable.

* Ability to see at a distance

This is testable.

I'll contact Donovan and see what he says.

[Placebo]

Originally posted by CFLarsen
This is testable: We can test who has had his aura expanded or not.
Uh it is? Sorry for my ignorance... is there a thread that speaks of how?

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by Placebo
Uh it is? Sorry for my ignorance... is there a thread that speaks of how?

Not to my knowledge.

Of course, we'll have to test to see if they can detect auras in the first place. And that's simple: Put a person - or not - behind a screen. Can the YB person see an aura or not?

[Skepiroth]

Ha! I also signed up to the mailing list, primarily to see this video http://yellowbamboohk.com/yellowbamboo/YB_Test_SwedishGroup_Surabrata.mov because it is so funny (however I cannot find it on the site).

However, today I got this e-mail:

Vegeta <== (fake name I used for comedic purposes)

Yellow Bamboo is for real.

If you haven't yet viewed the level one video, you can
see it online at

http://bamboovideo.com/fulfill.htm <== (link to a website which streams a video which explicitly shows the 'knocking down'.)

Or get the DVD at

http://bamboovideo.com/ar5

Please tell you firends. Let them know about the
power, strength and protectio9n <== (ok, they didn't use 'protectio9n from attackers' or 'physical protectio9n' so I guess that is OK ;) ) you will get from
Yellow Bamboo.

http://bamboovideo.com/refer

Warren Whitlock, Webmaster
warren@bamboovideo.com

PS. Right now, you're beginning have come to mind the name of
one or more friends or family members who could sue the power
of Yellow Bamboo.

Give them the start they need at

http://bamboovideo.com/refer

[Steven Howard]

Originally posted by new skeptic

PS. Right now, you're beginning have come to mind the name of
one or more friends or family members who could sue the power
of Yellow Bamboo.

Is that typo ("sue" for "use") in the original email? Either way, it cracks me up.

[Skepiroth]

Originally posted by CFLarsen
I'm keeping an eye on it.

If it doesn't change in the foreseeable future, I will contact Donovan again.

E-mail I got from YB TODAY:

Vegeta

Yellow Bamboo has received much attention of late
as praticioners demostrate the protection power.

While this makes for good publicity, the truth is that
Yellow Bamboo is taught for much more than show.

The three main benefits of Yellow Bamboo are:

Rapid spiritual self-realization and personal
development. You can attain more development in one month
than ten years of yoga and meditation. The Yellow Bamboo
program is a cohesive, step-by-step method of attaining
spiritual and personal development.

Protection for yourself and others. With Yellow Bamboo
you can learn very powerful methods to protect yourself
and others. If you watch the videos you will see that it
is possible to knock down attackers without touching
them. This is a very powerful form of personal
development.

Healing for yourself and others. With Yellow Bamboo you
can heal yourself and others. We teach a very powerful
method of tapping into a special healing energy. It is
possible to heal infirmities and disease quickly and
painlessly.

Are you receiving these benefits?

You can.. but continuing to practice Level 1 of Yellow Bamboo
as found at http://bamboovideo.com/ar9b

Have a question?

Submit your Yellow Bamboo quesitons to

http://bamboovideo.com/ask.htm

Thank you for your continued interest in Yellow Bamboo.

Warren Whitlock
support@bamboovideo.com

PS. Don't forget to include your friends and family in
Yellow Bamboo. They will want the rapid growth too.




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I take no responsability for the spelling in that e-mail :D.

[TheBoyPaj]

Originally posted by new skeptic
I take no responsability for the spelling in that e-mail :D.

What about that line?
:D

[Harlequin]

Wow. They've really just backed right off, haven't they?

[Skepiroth]

D'oh!
err... umm... I study science... I'm supposed to have bad spelling.

[CFLarsen]

The good Warren has got some 'splainin' to do...

[Skepiroth]

CF,
If you sign up for their mailing list, within 7 days you will be swimming in direct evidence that they are still marketing this stuff as protection. Just don't be like me and use your main e-mail. I think that was a dumb idea in retrospect, as I do not trust them to not give my address to spammers.

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by new skeptic
CF,
If you sign up for their mailing list, within 7 days you will be swimming in direct evidence that they are still marketing this stuff as protection. Just don't be like me and use your main e-mail. I think that was a dumb idea in retrospect, as I do not trust them to not give my address to spammers.

Thanks for the warning. I got a pretty good spam-filter. :)

[Bronze Dog]

Went over the topic, and I'm suddenly reminded of something that often comes up on the Wizards of the Coast forums: Anime fanboys who think K4T4N4S R TEH UB3r 5W0RD and can cut through anything.

Thankfully, there are some reasonable DMs out there: One had a fanboy in a d20 modern game who got his hands on a katana in-game and tried to cut a tank in half with it. DM ruled that the sword broke without even looking at any reference tables or rolling dice. I'm glad that's one person who favored realism over cinematics on that topic.

-Watched the clip of the guy trying the kamehameha wave or whatever. Funny stuff. On par with this one other video I saw of a kid twirling a pipe around, nearly tripping over himself through the whole thing. Someone later added lightsaber sounds and effects.

Would like to reiterate a clever point I read somewhere about all this Yellow Bamboo sort of stuff: If it works, why don't the police and military employ it?

[pmurray]

Originally posted by dann
"Hurt" him how exactly? Why would it be necessary for him to be both "upset" and "feel it's ok to try to hurt the YB guy", an apparent contradiction in terms: It would probably be easier for him to try to 'hurt' you if he knew that you wouldn't be (in any way seriously) hurt! (Or is that what is implied with "only ... in the chest and abdomen area"?)

I fail to see the difficulty. A solid punch in the gut hurts. You can hurt someone without injuring them. An attitude of "I am going to teach this *expletive* a lesson" would count as anger, wouldn't it?