NASA Suppressed UFO Photos!!

[sophia8]

The following got posted on one of my forums this morning. Come, skeptics, and feast!Donna Tietze, a former NASA employee at the Johnson Space Flight Center, offered the following testimony in a radio interview with WOL radio in Washington, D.C., on May 6, 1995. ( Transcripts available
from WOL Radio ).

" During the Apollo mission I worked at NASA throughout those Apollo missions and I did leave NASA at the time the space huttles began. I worked in building eight in the photo lab. I had a secret clearance so I thought I could go anywhere in the building. And I did go into one area that was a restricted area. In this area they developed pictures taken from satelites and also all of the missions, the Apollo missions, flight missions. I went in and I was talking to one of the photographers and developers and he was putting together a mosaic which is a lot of photos, smaller photos into a larger photo pattern. And while I was in there I was trying to learn new methods and new things about the whole organization and I was looking at the pictures and he directed my attention to one area, he said, Look at that. I looked and there was a round oval shaped, well it was very white circular shape of a dot and I, it was black & white photography, so I asked him if that was a spot on the emulsion and he
said, well I can't tell you but spots on the emulsion do not leave
round circles of shadows.

E.D.: So there was a shadow on the ground? D.T.: Right, a round
shadow! And I noticed that there were pine trees, now I don't know where this area was or what, you, pretty close to the ground what I saw but I didn't see outline of the continent. But I did notice that thre was shadow under this white dot and I also noticed that the trees were casting the shadows in the same direction as this shadow of the circle of this aerial phenomena because it was higher than the trees but not too much higher than the trees but it was close to the ground and it was spherical but slightly elongated, not very much but slightly. I then said, is it a UFO? And he said, Well I can't tell you. And then I asked him, what are you going to do with this piece of information? And he said, well we have to airbrush these things out before we sell these photographs to the public. So I realized at that point that there is a procedure setup to take care of this type of information from the public."

[geni]

Which forum?

[Temp3st]

I blame those pesky 'space huttles' ;)

[sophia8]

It was accidently cross-posted to a number of Yahoo groups, and was originally meant for a list called allplanets-hollow (which I don't belong to).
I posted it here in the hope that everyone could have good healthy fun ripping it to pieces.

[geni]

Originally posted by sophia8
It was accidently cross-posted to a number of Yahoo groups, and was originally meant for a list called allplanets-hollow (which I don't belong to).
I posted it here in the hope that everyone could have good healthy fun ripping it to pieces.

Bad astronomy might get you a better responce.

http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/index.php

All I can really say is that this is all based on the testonmy of one person and we have know way of knowing how much we can truat them.

[CurtC]

I had a friend in high school who went to work at the shoe department in a department store. When he was fairly new, the older guys told him that they needed more room on their shelves, so the convinced him to go to the other department store across the street and ask to borrow some "shelf stretcher." They stalled him for a while, while they pretended to look around, then told him they were out and sent him on to yet another store. Turns out this was a little joke the older guys would play on the young, eager newbies.

Assuming this NASA story is true, it sounds like someone was playing a "standard" joke on her.

[Ranb]

When I was a new Sailor on my first submarine, I was sent to get some relative bearing grease. I actually asked one person for some before realizing I had been had. :)


Ranb

[Goshawk]

Assuming this NASA story is true, it sounds like someone was playing a "standard" joke on her

Absolutely. Thirty years ago she would have been the Sweet Young Thing, hanging around the lab, all bright-eyed and bushy-tailed, trying to learn "stuff" about photography, and so he thinks it's funny to tell her that that otherwise ordinary blot on the emulsion is really a UFO, and, tongue firmly in cheek, informs her, all very hush-hush, that "of course" they have to airbrush all that stuff out, you know...

[JPK]

Good afternoon.

I was just looking at CNN's coverage of the Titan landing today on I read this:
For unknown reasons, NASA, which operates Cassini, the satellite kibitzing Saturn that relayed Huygens' signal, removed the images of Titan's surface from its Web site. ESA had not released that image. No official information was available about the image from Titan's surface.

from this article (http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/space/01/14/huygens.titan/index.html)

The first thing I thought was, "there goes NASA again suppressing photos". :)

JPK

[The Mighty Thor]

Originally posted by Ranb
When I was a new Sailor on my first submarine, I was sent to get some relative bearing grease. I actually asked one person for some before realizing I had been had. :)


Ranb

Apprentices in Scotland were sent to another department to get "a long stand". They could be left standing for hours.:D

[Beady]

Originally posted by Ranb
When I was a new Sailor on my first submarine, I was sent to get some relative bearing grease. I actually asked one person for some before realizing I had been had. :)

Just be glad they didn't send you to polish the navigator's balls.

[sophia8]

Originally posted by CurtC
Assuming this NASA story is true, it sounds like someone was playing a "standard" joke on her.
That was was I thought as well.
Anyway, I've done some googling on her - there's some interesting info on this on one of the Google science groups (forgot which one, but google her name).
Turns out that she possibly did work at the space center, but was never a NASA employee and almost certainly worked for one of the many contractors that NASA used. But of course, "I worked for an agency that did some NASA contract work" doesn't sound nearly as good as "I worked for NASA" (which, anyway, the guy who cleaned the center's toilets could say!).
People who work at the Johnson Space center say that the building she talks about was never a secure area - anyone could walk in and wander around the place.
The photos she describes sound very much like LANDSAT pictures; the first LANDSAT satellite was launched in 1972, which was the time that the Apollo program was being wound down. So that part of her account pans out. However, the LANDSAT pictures were owned, processed and sold by a different agency. Although they were processed in a NASA center (there seems to be confusion about which one), NASA's connection with LANDSAT was simply that they built and launched the satellite - they had nothing to do with the pictures.
LANDSAT pictures of those times were processed from a continous datastream sent down from the satellite; this was a completely different process from developing the Apollo pictures, which (I think) were pretty normal camera films. So the two sets of pictures would have been processed by two different teams, even if they weren't owned by two different agencies.
The fact that she doen't appear to know any of this makes it pretty obvious that, whoever employed her, she was a very low-level employee - certainly not a rocket scientist!

[Beady]

Originally posted by sophia8
"I worked for an agency that did some NASA contract work" doesn't sound nearly as good as "I worked for NASA" (which, anyway, the guy who cleaned the center's toilets could say!).

No, he works for a contractor. Trust me on this.

[sophia8]

Originally posted by Beady
No, he works for a contractor. Trust me on this.
I believe you! I was speaking metaphorically - there must be some lowly janitor-type jobs in NASA. They surely don't employ just rockets scientists and astronauts.