Angels & Fairies

[Janice]

Good morning to All.

I thought this would be an interesting subject to raise, as most posts on here talk about ghosts. Has anyone had any experience with Angels or Fairies? I think it is nice that each and everyone of us has a Guardian Angel looking over us, also has anyone ever met their spirit guide? I have read other posts on a forum of how people have met and seen Angels and fairies.

[Ceinwyn]

Originally posted by Janice
Good morning to All.

I thought this would be an interesting subject to raise, as most posts on here talk about ghosts. Has anyone had any experience with Angels or Fairies? I think it is nice that each and everyone of us has a Guardian Angel looking over us, also has anyone ever met their spirit guide? I have read other posts on a forum of how people have met and seen Angels and fairies. I have a question.

Are you aware that you are posting at the JREF forum and do you know what the forum is about?

We don't talk much about fairies and angels. If you haven't noticed that, perhaps you should read more about the forum. You can find it in the local FAQ.

Thanks, and good luck.

[Lavie Enrose]

The Case of the Cottingley Fairies (http://www.randi.org/library/cottingley/)

[BPScooter]

No, and no.

[Timble]

No.

BTW if Guardian angels exist do they even watch you while you're on the lavatory? If so, that's just strange.

[Janice]

Thanks for that Lavie Enrose.

[Temp3st]

Perhaps a better question would be - 'if we all have a guardian angel then what happens when we are attacked, mugged, murdered, in an accident, or commit suicide'?

I suppose our 'angels' just can’t be arsed some days?

[Zep]

Originally posted by Janice
Good morning to All.

I thought this would be an interesting subject to raise, as most posts on here talk about ghosts. Has anyone had any experience with Angels or Fairies? I think it is nice that each and everyone of us has a Guardian Angel looking over us, also has anyone ever met their spirit guide? I have read other posts on a forum of how people have met and seen Angels and fairies. Janice,

You seem to have made a presumption that such entities exist in the first place. However not everyone here is as convinced as you are that they do exist at all. But we are open to persuasion, so could you please put forward all evidence you have to support their existence (and you might like to review this evidence before you do post it here, because, like CSI, we can be harsh on badly presented evidence).

Good luck!

[Beady]

Originally posted by Janice
Has anyone had any experience with Angels or Fairies?

Only the 2nd-hand kind that has me simultaneously gagging and rolling on the floor in laughter.

I'm quite serious. Like, there's the book that came home in a box of used books from a friend's used-book store (we distribute older and extra copies to libraries for her). It was by some twit who calls herself The Angel Lady, and it had a directory of such angels as Derek, the Angel of Public Speaking. I contributed it to the JREF library.

I really, really find it difficult to imagine something that could trivialize the entire concept of a deity more thoroughly than this New Age angel movement.

(Edited to misspell "thoroughly")

[Azrael 5]

Zep for goodness sake dont mention the E word!!:D

[Zep]

Originally posted by Azrael 5
Zep for goodness sake dont mention the E word!!:D This is NOT scientific or even convincing ev*d*nce of fairies. I'm sure it's a lovely book, but most children realise it is all imaginary, and will outgrow the whole fairy concept well before they turn 10.

http://www.sistersanddaughters.com/vrf.jpg

[PixyMisa]

I'm a pixie. Does that count?

[Zep]

Originally posted by PixyMisa
I'm a pixie. Does that count? Being from Sydney, that makes us both faires by default, so I'm told... :D

[Timble]

A bit of genuine history about Fairies, Robert Kirk's "The Secret Commonwealth of Elves, Fairies and Faunes". A 17th century monograph on the Celtic version of fairies

Interesting, as at that point in time fairies were still a subject for academic debate.

A lot of new agey "Faery" stuff draws on Kirk's little book but usually at second third or fourth hand (and crib from Katherine Briggs's work on folklore and her Dictionary of Fairies, without acknowlegment).

The Secret Commonwealth (http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/celt/sce/)

[El Greco]

My Guardian Angel is Angelina Jolie. I want to do a lot of obscene things with my Guardian Angel. I have also met my Spirit Guide a couple of years ago but I couldn't get her phone number.

[EdipisReks]

i had a guardian angel, but i caught it stealing money out of my wallet. that's the day i found out that external ballistics apply to angels as much as they do to everyone else.

[Bikewer]

During the height of the last "Angel Craze", with lots of books being published and lots of "sightings" being reported even in mainstream media, Rwanda descended in genocide.

Wonder what all those folk's angels were doing at the time?

Maybe there just aren't eough to go around?
Or maybe they only work for Christians.

[The Don]

I think that the angel rules of engagement are:

- You must be Christian to have a guardian angel
- Angels always work to protect you unless God is moving in mysterious ways
- Angels work on the balance of probability, they cannot prevent individual incidents

Which explains why so may angels were apparently not paying attention during the recent tsunami.

[Timble]

But who watches the angels?

The big G knows they're not trustworthy, because they rebelled (the Bible and the Book of Enoch) so why does he put them in charge of watching humans without someone checking up on them?

[Lisa Simpson]

Originally posted by Timble
But who watches the angels?



I watch the Angels, but darn it, they didn't make it through the playoffs last year.

That's not what you meant though. :o

[The Mighty Thor]

Please -- somebody tell me that Janice is a ten-year-old girl and not a thirty-year-old nurse.

If I go to hospital, please let me not have a nurse who believes in faeries, talks about faeries, or is a faerie herself.

[Red Siegfried]

I have an elf that lives in my head.

And I'm not talking about Middle-Earth fake Tolkien crap either, I mean little tiny beings that have lived along with us, hidden, since the beginning of time, who repair shoes at random.

I'm really surprised that no one is pushing the whole idea of "elves are real and they are all around us." I thought of that idea years ago and haven't done a single thing to exploit it.

Coming soon ... "Elves Are Real" by Red Siegfried. Only $19.99.

There I go, being a sarcastic twit again.

But seriously, if you want to see angels and fairies, I know I guy who can sell you some DMT. And you really will SEE them, if you believe hard enough when you take it.

[Temp3st]

Originally posted by The Mighty Thor
Please -- somebody tell me that Janice is a ten-year-old girl and not a thirty-year-old nurse.

If I go to hospital, please let me not have a nurse who believes in faeries, talks about faeries, or is a faerie herself.

From my dealings with the 'Janice' entity in the past - I suspect she is a nurse in an old peoples nursing home or something along those lines.

Not sure about her age - but I could give you a pretty close guess with regards to her IQ.

If she really is caring for the old then I dread to think of the crap she is filling those poor *souls minds with.

*this does not imply that I believe in the existence of a soul.

[El Greco]

Originally posted by The Mighty Thor
Please -- somebody tell me that Janice is a ten-year-old girl

Janice is a ten-year-old girl.


I also happen to have a picture of hers:
http://www.dvdreview.com/assets/images/Exorcist5.JPG

[Janice]

Temp3st - would love to know, how you came to the conclusion I am a nurse?? Just another stupid comment from one of your gang. Anyway, I feel sorry for the next person who joins and shows any interest in the afterlife, because I am sure you will treat them in the same manner. I'm off, had enough of the Zwinge camp.:)

[El Greco]

Damn it. Something I said ? :con2:

[Gr8wight]

Originally posted by Janice
Temp3st - would love to know, how you came to the conclusion I am a nurse?? Just another stupid comment from one of your gang. Anyway, I feel sorry for the next person who joins and shows any interest in the afterlife, because I am sure you will treat them in the same manner. I'm off, had enough of the Zwinge camp.:)

My God, Janice. That is sure to be an remarkably accurate prediction. Have you considered applying for the $1,000,000 challenge?

[Humphreys]

Originally posted by Janice
Good morning to All.

I thought this would be an interesting subject to raise, as most posts on here talk about ghosts. Has anyone had any experience with Angels or Fairies? I think it is nice that each and everyone of us has a Guardian Angel looking over us, also has anyone ever met their spirit guide? I have read other posts on a forum of how people have met and seen Angels and fairies.

Janice, stop being so silly :hit:

My spirit guide is the menu in my favourite bar.

[Zep]

Originally posted by Janice
Temp3st - would love to know, how you came to the conclusion I am a nurse?? Just another stupid comment from one of your gang. Anyway, I feel sorry for the next person who joins and shows any interest in the afterlife, because I am sure you will treat them in the same manner. I'm off, had enough of the Zwinge camp.:) Ah ha! Only a disciple of Victor Zammit would use that particular term. Janice, you are associating with someone of known bonkerishness; a seriously self-deluded person, a light-headed buffoon - one of those people who gets themselves on the nightly news by leading their little band of unquestioning followers to come live with him in isolation in a glade in the woods and all be his wives, men and children included, etc.

Or you should lay off the sherry.

[Metullus]

Originally posted by Janice
Good morning to All.

I thought this would be an interesting subject to raise, as most posts on here talk about ghosts. Has anyone had any experience with Angels or Fairies? I think it is nice that each and everyone of us has a Guardian Angel looking over us, also has anyone ever met their spirit guide? I have read other posts on a forum of how people have met and seen Angels and fairies.

No Angels, no fairies.

Never having seen either, I have no reason to think that they exist.

You, or perhaps others, may have experienced them, and so you might have reason to think they exist. If you think that others should believe in them you need to provide evidence of their existance, Wu's nonsense notwithstanding.

Show us evidence, and do not make the mistake of dismissing our skepticism just because we do not immediately embrace your beliefs. We really want to see the evidence.

If we seem to be dismissive, it is because we have all seen these types of claims before, and, without exception, each time the claimant has failed (or refused) to put up their evidence.

And most of the time the reason given is not that the evidence is non-existant, rather it is that "it isn't worth my time because you won't believe it anyway." In short, it is the skeptic's fault that the evidence is not presented.

It is never the claimant's fault.

[Bikewer]

"extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."

[Zep]

If she showed it to us, she would have to kill us. (http://neurone.club.fr/jdr/james/topsec.jpg)

[SezMe]

Originally posted by Zep
This is NOT scientific or even convincing ev*d*nce of fairies. I'm sure it's a lovely book, but most children realise it is all imaginary, and will outgrow the whole fairy concept well before they turn 10.
Thanks to Zep, we have our solution then. In spite of protestations otherwise, Janice is less than 10.

Problem solved. :)

[Odin]

I'm confused, are angels and fairies the same thing?
I've seen a book by the angel lady - lots of angel mythology with very little evidence of their existance. Maybe she realised that anyone buying her book doesn't care about evidence.

[Lisa Simpson]

Originally posted by Odin
I'm confused, are angels and fairies the same thing?
I've seen a book by the angel lady - lots of angel mythology with very little evidence of their existance. Maybe she realised that anyone buying her book doesn't care about evidence.

You are probably right about that.

Angels and fairies are different. From wikipedia:

An angel is a spiritual being which assists and serves God or the gods in many religious traditions.

A fairy, or faery, is a creature from stories and mythology, often portrayed in art and literature as a minuscule humanoid with wings.

[thaiboxerken]

I think angels and fairies are just the old myths that people had in older times. They've been replaced by extraterrestials and UFO's now.

[tommyz]

Originally posted by Timble
But who watches the angels?

The big G knows they're not trustworthy, because they rebelled (the Bible and the Book of Enoch) so why does he put them in charge of watching humans without someone checking up on them?

That would be Mr. Michael, archangel. He one day got so pissed off at Satan and his boys (for trying to take over the head honcho's position) that he kicked all their butts and threw them all away from heaven into hell.

If this indeed is a true story, them perhaps we should really be asking ourselves where is Michael when we need him most???