Intresting Ebay auctions

[Odin]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=19270&item=5558442577&rd=1

US $17,500.00 for a decaying rose petal. I cannot actually see an image in this.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=35824&item=6154480221&rd=1

US $4,063.80 for a photograph. I'ts more obvious than the other and at about 1/4 the price.

[Matabiri]

Took me a minute to see it, but does this help?

[richardm]

He wants a starting bid of $17,500? Good luck.

[RamblingOnwards]

Originally posted by Matabiri
Took me a minute to see it, but does this help?

Oh, in the negative space. Thanks!

That's actually remarkably clear. Clear enough to wonder if it could have been faked, actually. Does anyone know what happend if you press a rose petal over a raised image?

[MRC_Hans]

I really don't get these things.

Now, let us assume that GOD (or some saint, angel, or whatever) really left a message in a petal, piece of toast, or something. That is what these people believe, right? What exactly is the purpose of BUYING the item? Not to mention paying an exorbitant prize for it. Shurely God (or whomever) placed that message where it belongs? Shurely God does not depend on e-bay auctions for distributing his messages??

So if you really believe in this stuff, why do you think it has a money value?

And if you don't believe ......?

Hans

[Odin]

Yeah, I can see it now, Its actually quite clear once you know what to look for.

[Yaotl]

I don't see the second one at all. And I have to reiterate what someone else said, this is an image of Mary and Jesus based on what photographic evidence in the first place?

[Ashles]

I still can't see either and I now have a little headache from squinting and concentrating. I'm sure that's not what God intended.

Damn, that toasted cheese sandwich really put people's price expectations through the roof for this kind of stuff didn't it?

Now I have a dilemma, do I sell petals and sandwiches for a one-off quick cash injection, or go down the remote Reiki (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=52687) route which yields smaller returns, but can provide a continual income and I don't actually have to send anything.

Decisions, decisions...

[Odin]

similar (http://www.visionsofjesuschrist.com/weeping349.htm)

These all look suspiciously like they are copied somehow (pressing from a raised image?) from existing pictures.

[Ashles]

Originally posted by Odin
similar (http://www.visionsofjesuschrist.com/weeping349.htm)

These all look suspiciously like they are copied somehow (pressing from a raised image?) from existing pictures.
AHAHAHAHA!

God chooses to copy known artwork rather than create his own?

And He copies the Last Supper? Chinny reckon.

That whole site has some hilarious pictures (http://www.visionsofjesuschrist.com/miraculous_images.htm) . The luminous angel one is brilliant. I just can't understand what would explain that.
It's almost as though the camera gave out some kind of bright light when the photo was taken and it reflected of something angel shaped. But the text says there was no statue. In a church. So I guess we'll just have to take their word and accept it is amiracle. Despite the photographic evidence otherwise.

[Matabiri]

Originally posted by Yaotl
I don't see the second one at all. And I have to reiterate what someone else said, this is an image of Mary and Jesus based on what photographic evidence in the first place?

Ay carumba.

You need to spend more time looking for pictures in clouds with someone you care about. It's good practice.

[ReFLeX]

I don't think the first one is at all remarkable, you can't even see the impression in the size-comparison picture with the nickel. I wouldn't be surprised if that image was just random...

[richardm]

Originally posted by Matabiri
Ay carumba.

You need to spend more time looking for pictures in clouds with someone you care about. It's good practice.

It's a lot better if you think of the lower hand as being a foot instead. That way she appears to be short and wearing really clumpy boots :D

[Jaggy Bunnet]

Originally posted by Matabiri
Ay carumba.

You need to spend more time looking for pictures in clouds with someone you care about. It's good practice.

I don't want to be controversial, but that looks a lot more like one of Donald Duck's nephews (including the upturned peak on the baseball cap) than anything else, IMO.

[Matabiri]

Originally posted by Jaggy Bunnet
I don't want to be controversial, but that looks a lot more like one of Donald Duck's nephews (including the upturned peak on the baseball cap) than anything else, IMO.

Better not let Disney know, or they'll sue God for trademark infringement.

[supercorgi]

Ooo..lovely image of a long-haired woman kissing a small terrier dog. :D
Originally posted by RamblingOnwards
Oh, in the negative space. Thanks!

That's actually remarkably clear. Clear enough to wonder if it could have been faked, actually. Does anyone know what happend if you press a rose petal over a raised image?
Actually I believe this is rather easy to do. I can't find the reference but I seem remember some medieval pilgrimage sites doing this to produce souveniers.

I'll have to get a couple of rose petals, press some coins on to them and then dry them to actually test if this is as easily done as I suspect.

Inquiring dogs want to know!
http://my.voyager.net/~farrago/MyIcons/BrposeR.gif

[RamblingOnwards]

Here's the inverted image of that photo for the people who are still battling to see it:

http://img4.imagevenue.com/loc167/72d_img2.jpg

[Metullus]

Now I can see it.

$17,500.00? I don't think so. Maybe $16,925.00, but no more than that.

So, if these are created as some of us suspect they are (as is more than likely the case), does this not constitute fraud, as in grand larceny, as in theft by deception?

Wait a minute, I forgot about whom we are talking.

My bad...

[Ashles]

NOW I see it. Thanks Rambling.

[misawafan]

Originally posted by Odin
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=19270&item=5558442577&rd=1

US $17,500.00 for a decaying rose petal. I cannot actually see an image in this.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=35824&item=6154480221&rd=1


You know, it actually costs money to post ads on ebay - based on the starting bid you set. I forget the percentage, but posting something for $17,500.00 would cost the seller. I guess the hope is that if they make it expensive enough it will seem more "legit" or important and more likely to attract someone to buy it...

[Rob Lister]

Originally posted by misawafan
You know, it actually costs money to post ads on ebay - based on the starting bid you set. I forget the percentage, but posting something for $17,500.00 would cost the seller. I guess the hope is that if they make it expensive enough it will seem more "legit" or important and more likely to attract someone to buy it...

Is that how it works? I didn't think there was an actual money transaction from seller to ebay unless the item sold.

[Azrael 5]

Originally posted by Rob Lister
Is that how it works? I didn't think there was an actual money transaction from seller to ebay unless the item sold.
There is a listing fee! That ad works out at $6 ish.For a possible $17,500 return..thats what you call a profit!! Its so fake its scandalous! Im going to email the seller and see what he has to say.:p

[Azrael 5]

Blimey,just had a look at other auctions within the sub heading of the one listed.Get thishttp://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=19270&item=5557352658&rd=1 :D

Edited to addhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=19270&item=5557965601&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

May as well read this one as well.;)

[delphi_ote]

Originally posted by Azrael 5
Blimey,just had a look at other auctions within the sub heading of the one listed.Get thishttp://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=19270&item=5557352658&rd=1 :D

Edited to addhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=19270&item=5557965601&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

May as well read this one as well.;)

The guy got in trouble for auctioning his soul, but this crap is okay? The Ebay people are getting lazier and lazier by the minute.

[Odin]

Its ok though to sell non human souls. (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=19270&item=5556868074&rd=1)

[Metullus]

How about selling human soles?

[Janice]

Well I can't believe that this item sold for £720.00.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5555246954&category=1469&sspagename=rvi:1:3v_search

[Janice]

Looks like you can also get readings on e-bay as well now. Notice how many bids there are.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1523&item=5557873403&rd=1&tc=photo


& Spells

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1523&item=5557503620&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW&tc=photo

[Ashles]

Originally posted by Janice
Looks like you can also get readings on e-bay as well now. Notice how many bids there are.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1523&item=5557873403&rd=1&tc=photo

She's had 26 feedback comments since Jan 1.

So that's 26 readings at £30 a pop - £780

Plus people who haven't given feedback, almost certainly over £1000 earned in a month and a half.

Not bad going for e-mailing people generalisations.

I assume she is paying tax on all of this of course...

Anyone tempted to waste £30 on her, just to see?

Can you get a refund if not satisfied?

[Ashles]

The spell one is just funny.

The bidding is currently at £1.45 and, although she says the spell is for health, happiness, etc. she's not very specific:
Please note that this item is not a Reading. It is a spell cast by me on your behalf - details of the spell will be sent to you.

She calls herself Alizon for spell work.

Sounds like a Blackadder impression of a Somerset wench " Just because you can say zzzirr instead of sir..."

[supercorgi]

Originally posted by Azrael 5
Blimey,just had a look at other auctions within the sub heading of the one listed.Get thishttp://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=19270&item=5557352658&rd=1 :D

The evil duck figurine and evil Zuni doll one is a riot! I'd be tempted to buy the Zuni doll just because Trilogy of Terror scared the crap out of me when I was little. I love this part the best:

Both the zuni doll and the wooden duck give people chills when they see them so I have to get them out of the house. ...
I do not recommend burning the duck to get rid of it - from what I am told, if there is an evil spirit and you burn the duck, the spirit will be released and will occupy the next thing or person near it.
So the best way this guy can think to get these EVIL(tm) objects out of the house is by selling them to some poor schlub (and making a profit at the same time!)? If burning it releases the evil spirits, then why not throw it in some landfill, chuck it out of the car window when you're one the highway, or better yet, give it as a gift to someone you don't like?

This part is also funny:
The zuni doll is made of resin and is glued together. If any parts become unglued just use a hot glue gun to mend it. That seems to be the way the person assembled it.
So now, not only do you want me to pay money for your garbage, but I'm going to have to buy a hot glue gun to fix it's evil little ass?! Don't you think that's asking a little much?
:dl:

http://my.voyager.net/~farrago/MyIcons/BrposeR.gif

[Azrael 5]

I emailed the schmuck selling the rose petal and here's his reply:You asked:"Please support evidence that this image was not created by man?"Although our rose did not come from this particular church, here is a Web site where other similar miracles (rose apparitions) have occurred: http://www.monksofadoration.org/photosm2.html Also, look into the story of 'Our Lady of Guadalupe' rose apparition dating back to the 1500's in Mexico. Hope this info helped!
Well did it help?:D

[Metullus]

Originally posted by Azrael 5
I emailed the schmuck selling the rose petal and here's his reply:
Well did it help?:D

I'm convinced. Do you think he'll take payment in bonds..?

[Odin]

another haunted doll (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=19270&item=5559284193&rd=1)

What happens if you buy both (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=19270&item=5557965601&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW)?
Maybe they fight each other or join forces and attempt to take over the world?:biggrin:

[vbloke]

see: http://www.grand-illusions.com/roman.htm for an explanation with pictures as to how this was done.


Until the recent development of digital cameras, most photography involved the use of films coated with various light sensitive compounds of silver. The sensitivity of certain silver salts to light was known from about 1727, when Johann Heinrich Schulze published his findings in the Nuremburg Academy of Natural Philosophers. But many natural things are sensitive to light. Long ago people noticed the effect of light on green plants, or how it made coloured fabrics fade. It is the effect of light on plants that makes Roman Photography possible.
This is what you need

* One healthy geranium plant with large leaves
* A dark room or large box
* A slide projector
* A slide of a high contrast negative image
* Methylated spirits or other strong alcohol
* Tincture of Iodine from a pharmnacist
* Various pots, jars, trays and small boxes

How it all works

The chlorophyll in healthy green leaves captures light and uses its energy to join together carbon dioxide and water. The result is the organic compound we call starch. It is the basis of much of the food we eat. Starch is white, but if you drop a small amount of a solution of iodine on it, the starch turns black. So that's it really. All you have to do is get a plant to produce lots of starch in the right place, then stain the starch with iodine. Don't let a few details prevent you starting straight away.

Keep the geranium in a dark room or box for two days. During this time the plant will use up all the existing starch in the leaves. Snip off one leaf, leaving plenty of stalk attached. Fix the leaf flat against the outside wall of a small box, gently push the stalk through a hole in the box.

Arrange for the cut end of the stalk to rest in a dish of water, to keep the leaf fresh. You can use sticky tape to keep the leaf reasonably flat. In a dimly lit room project a small but very bright image onto the leaf. Leave it to expose for about four or five hours, depending on the brightness of the projected image. After the exposure you should be able to see the effect of the light on the leaf, in the form of a faint, pearly image.

Now comes the violent bit. You have to kill the leaf, for the good of your art, you understand. Drop it in boiling hot water. After a minute or two, remove the now very limp leaf and place it in a bowl of cold water. Allow the leaf to fan out to a mere remnant of its former self. It should look like a fragile translucent pale brown thing, floating on the water.

Place a few drops of Tincture of Iodine on the surface of the leaf; after twenty or thirty seconds rock the bowl gently to spread the iodine. Slowly the positive image should appear, your first, and possibly last, photo on a geranium leaf. You have to keep the leaf in water, and after a few hours the image may fade, but you can restore it any time with a little more iodine.

[ca3799]

Wow, the "white witch" selling magic spells and readings is doing rather well (ans how depressing that is). I think I could sell magic spells, but would bust out laughing during a reading.

[Matabiri]

Speaking of interesting ebay auctions, here's one:
A letter from Charles Fort (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=37879&item=6509857367&rd=1)

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ferdoncrawford/fortletterins11.jpg