Believers Thread - Recommended Mediums

[jambo372]

Do any believers recommended any particularly good mediums within or without the Spiritualist movement ?

[Tricky]

Originally posted by jambo372
Do any believers recommended any particularly good mediums within or without the Spiritualist movement ?
I know there aren't too many out there that can combine the skills with the showmanship. "Well done" is rare among mediums.

[Joe_Black]

Why would you want one? 99.9% of them are rubbish.

[Azrael 5]

Originally posted by Joe_Black
Why would you want one? 99.9% of them are rubbish.
..and 100% are fake! You trolling again jambo?;)

[jambo372]

No I'm not trolling, whatever that is.
You haven't proven 100 % of mediums to be fake.

PS A5 Have you met Madam Dailly yet ?

[Odin]

trolling (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll)

:wink8:

[Filippo Lippi]

I would recommend the medium of water if you want to swim for any length of time

[Azrael 5]

Originally posted by jambo372
No I'm not trolling, whatever that is.
You haven't proven 100 % of mediums to be fake.

PS A5 Have you met Madam Dailly yet ?
Oh, Im not getting in to all this again.Prove that any medium is real!
Meanwhile here's a very good mediumhttp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=91243&item=8169144497&rd=1 :D

Troll!

[jambo372]

Originally posted by Azrael 5
Oh, Im not getting in to all this again.Prove that any medium is real!
Meanwhile here's a very good mediumhttp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=91243&item=8169144497&rd=1 :D

Troll!

Roughly translated :
I wouldn't even dare to mess with such a genuine medium ... it may have dire consequences for narrow minded cynics.

WHOPEE !!! I ALWAYS KNEW SHE WOULD PREVAIL OVER SCEPTICS, BLESS HER LIL COTTON SOCKS !!!

[Ashles]

Jambo you're slipping.

This is getting just too obvious that you are trolling.

[chance144]

jambo, the word "prove" means literally nothing in your "reverse scientific process" worldview.

"Proof" and "proven" mean something very specific to scientists. And I am pretty sure you do not know what that is. Non-null hypotheses can be proven false. That is it. They cannot be proven true. In fact, in a strict definition, nothing can be proven true or false, however convention says that non-null hypotheses are "proven" false when they are repeatedly shown to not be supported by data.

You can translate the statement "you have not proven that 100% of psychics are frauds" into "I don't know basic logic, nor do I know how the scientific process works". You cannot go throwing around words like "proven" without the context of logic and science. They become meaningless, and your statments come across as ignorant.

That you repeatedly make these statements means that you are either being purposely obtuse, or are really out of your league here. I hoping that you are just being stubborn for your own entertainment, but after reading many of your posts, I am leaning to the latter explanation.

Of course, I feel like I'm paddling upstream here...

[Yahweh]

Originally posted by jambo372
Do any believers recommended any particularly good mediums within or without the Spiritualist movement ?
I dont know any good mediums, but I know where you might be able to find some. There is a program called PalTalk (http://www.paltalk.com) (its a stand-alone chat client), there are many many psychic rooms and psychics to read you.

[chance144]

Oh, and I'm pretty sure that every tested medium has been "proven" to be fake.

In fact, I would bet the farm on it. All the believers have to do is find one single medium who can stand up to basic scientific observation. And you never have.

So, from our perspective, every medium has been proven fake. If you claim to be a medium that means certain things about you. If you are unwilling to be tested, and we have to take your claims on faith, then we are outside of science and into religion.

You can have your religion if you want.

If we can't test the hypothesis, then it is not a valid hypothesis. Technically, it also means that no other mediums exist outside those that have been tested, since none are observable to hypothesize about. I could label "people who believe that they talk to the dead" anything I wanted (some of us call them frauds) because the term "medium" is precisely meaningless in the context of our current knowledge. It is meaningless because there is no object (in this case, a person) who has the same attributes that an object traditionally called "medium" has, such as the ability to talk to the dead.


Think of it this way. If you believed that purple squid existed, yet every purple squid ever found was exposed as a white squid painted purple, would you continue to believe that there were purple squid out there, because someone told you, "believe me, there are purple squid in the ocean"?

Anyone would argue that there are no purple squid. Except for people who really wanted to believe that there were purple squid in the ocean.

This is essentially what you are claiming. Every SINGLE medium that has been examined has been exposed as either disillusioned about their abilities or fraudulent. Why, then, do you continue to believe that there are mediums out there (somewhere with the "real" purple squid that have somehow managed to escape detection)? Because someone said so? Because you want to believe there are?

Neither of these positions is tenable, or satisfying, for that matter.

[Azrael 5]

Originally posted by chance144


. Every SINGLE medium that has been examined has been exposed as either disillusioned about their abilities or fraudulent. Why, then, do you continue to believe that there are mediums out there (somewhere with the "real" purple squid that have somehow managed to escape detection)? Because someone said so? Because you want to believe there are?


Because jambo is stupid,and easily fooled.Also, jambo likes starting threads but cannot add anything to them or finish them for that matter!
In short,jambo is a troll! :D

[Ashles]

Let me just outline a list of recommended mediums, i.e. the best mediums in the world who have been definitively proven to actually be contacting dead people:


















You can contact any one on that list and be sure that you are receiving real information from 'the other side'.

[Luke T.]

I'm a very good medium, jambo. Who do you wish to contact and what do you want to know?

[delphi_ote]

Originally posted by jambo372
*snip* dire consequences *snip*
I would've been more convinced if you'd said it like this:

DIRE CONSEQUENCES!

More ominous that way. Just looking at it makes me want to cast off my narrow skeptic mind in fear!

[Luke T.]

R.

Rrrraalllnnndy ralph andy rapheal randy father figure mother does that make sense? M. mmmmiiike mickey are you following? Mother of God he's saying something about a watch and chest pains is that right? Something in the chest area or the back. Okay. He is acknowledging that with a flower does that make sense? A flower? Yellow maybe red. A flower in a book between the pages or a four leaf clover yeah got it? Know what that means? What does that mean to you? Ha! Ha! Ha! He's telling about that time you two were at that place and something funny happened. You remember that? What happened? He's laughing over it. He says he is very happy now. No worries. He wants you to know that. No worries. He keeps stressing that. No worries. Did you find his letters? Okay. You will. He's talking about a cousin or niece or nephew with, how do I put this, emotional problems? Does that make sense? No? An aunt maybe. An aunt? Okay. Yeah. He's nodding his head. Your aunt. He's acknowledging that. Has she passed? No? Okay. He's shaking his head. He wants you to tell her he looks in on his sister from time to time. Your aunt. Oh, she's your mother's sister? Okay. He started to shake his head but it's okay now. He wants you to know he looks in on his sister-in-law from time to time. He looks after her. He's brushing his hair now. Does your aunt like to brush her hair? Yeah. He was there when she brushed her hair. They weren't having an affair were they? HA! HA! HA! Just kidding.

[Lisa Simpson]

My favorite medium is--



















watercolors. :D

[Harlequin]

waiting for Janice to post...

[delphi_ote]

Originally posted by Harlequin
waiting for Janice to post...

Maybe you have to say her name three times to summon her.

[alfaniner]

This brings about a thought... Maybe we should have a Topic for Believers that says "Believers post here -- (but be prepared to back up what you claim)."

[SezMe]

Originally posted by jambo372
Roughly translated :
I wouldn't even dare to mess with such a genuine medium ... it may have dire consequences for narrow minded cynics.

WHOPEE !!! I ALWAYS KNEW SHE WOULD PREVAIL OVER SCEPTICS, BLESS HER LIL COTTON SOCKS !!!
Uh-oh, jammy's goin' the red route. Maybe he's been takin' lessons from 1inCH?

[billydkid]

Originally posted by jambo372
Do any believers recommended any particularly good mediums within or without the Spiritualist movement ?

There is no such thing as a good medium. It is like saying "Can you recommend any good, evil, deceitful exploiter of dopes." You know, you try to portray sceptics as the bad guy and as is so often the case - take George Bush and your typical television evangelist - the most evil people are portrayed as the best and the most decent people, the people who actually do care about the truth of things are portrayed as evil.

[jambo372]

I'll ignore these deluded sceptics comments in this thread.

PS Luke T
Your cold reading was crap.

[Janice]

Things just keep getting better.

[Timble]

I have found this medium excellent for the construction of stage and film props, and believe in it.

Marvin the Medium (http://www.homecrafts.co.uk/html/product.asp?cat1=8&cat2=149&cat3=953)


Marvin Medium

Premium quality PVA medium that’s been supplied to schools and shops for over 35 years. Ideal as a painting medium for collage or other paint mixing techniques. Mixed with almost any colour, brilliance will remain. Dries almost transparent and can be used for modelling, sticking, glazing, or as an exceptionally strong adhesive on porous surfaces.

[delphi_ote]

Originally posted by jambo372
I'll ignore these deluded sceptics comments in this thread.

PS Luke T
Your cold reading was crap.

Clearly he just confused you with me. All those facts match me perfectly and I've never met him. I don't even know Luke T's real name!

That's an amazing gift you have, Luke! My father was Ralph and my aunt Mickey LOVES to brush her hair. You were dead on about my cousin, too. Hopefully he'll get his life back together soon. I'm not a skeptic anymore. You've demonstrated proof of communication with the dead right in this forum. I wish jambo hadn't shut you down so soon, because then he'd be able to see this for himself!

It doesn't get any colder than reading someone you can't see, who resents you, AND who suspects you're cold reading before you start. The negative energies of Jambo's closed mind probably confused your skills and directed them back on me. Must've had something to do with both Jambo and myself using colored text in the thread.

[Azrael 5]

Originally posted by Janice
Things just keep getting better.

Still here?

Originally posted by Janice don't worrry PSA, I have no intention of posting anything more on this forum, I will let you and your BUDDIES TROLL ALONG!


:D

[Yeah_Right]

My favourite Medium? That was my favourite show growing up, oh wait, that was Martian, and those don't exist either.

[Metullus]

Originally posted by Yeah_Right
My favourite Medium? That was my favourite show growing up, oh wait, that was Martian, and those don't exist either.

Then who put the face on mars, then? Who? Of course there are Martians - they are the descendants of ancient egyptians who used Von-Daniken drive rockets to travel to mars after Atlantis sank into Lake Michigan...

And I can prove it except I won't show anyone here the proof because I know that you will just call me names and not believe me then I will feel bad and need to get my chakras adjusted.

So I'm not gonna tell you anything. Just disregard this post because I don't need Randi's $1 million dollars.

[Zep]

Jambo, I'd recommend this medium. She looks to be spiritualised enough to go.

http://www.wvtsa.org/images/state_2004/fortune%20teller.jpg

[voodoochile]

Originally posted by Zep
Jambo, I'd recommend this medium. She looks to be spiritualised enough to go.

http://www.wvtsa.org/images/state_2004/fortune%20teller.jpg

Come on... that HAS to be a halloween costume, doesn't it?

Who would fall for the glowing crystal ball?

Jambo, you absolutely have to send your money to someone, I'll take it. I'm not psychic, but I'll spend it on a lot of fun stuff for myself... Hey, wait a minute... I just saw the future - me with a beer in my hand and a jack on the rocks sitting on the bar... or was it a Jack on the rocks in my hand and a beer on the bar... this premonition stuff is tricky... either way, there's going to be whiskey and beer when the money shows up. That much I see for sure. Maybe I'm psychic after all...

[Metullus]

Originally posted by voodoochile
Come on... that HAS to be a halloween costume, doesn't it?

Who would fall for the glowing crystal ball?

Jambo, you absolutely have to send your money to someone, I'll take it. I'm not psychic, but I'll spend it on a lot of fun stuff for myself... Hey, wait a minute... I just saw the future - me with a beer in my hand and a jack on the rocks sitting on the bar... or was it a Jack on the rocks in my hand and a beer on the bar... this premonition stuff is tricky... either way, there's going to be whiskey and beer when the money shows up. That much I see for sure. Maybe I'm psychic after all...

Look down. If you are naked its not a premonition, its just a dream.

Science at work. :D

[Zep]

Originally posted by voodoochile
Come on... that HAS to be a halloween costume, doesn't it?

Who would fall for the glowing crystal ball?

Jambo, you absolutely have to send your money to someone, I'll take it. I'm not psychic, but I'll spend it on a lot of fun stuff for myself... Hey, wait a minute... I just saw the future - me with a beer in my hand and a jack on the rocks sitting on the bar... or was it a Jack on the rocks in my hand and a beer on the bar... this premonition stuff is tricky... either way, there's going to be whiskey and beer when the money shows up. That much I see for sure. Maybe I'm psychic after all... Hey hey hey! What about a drink for the axolotl, OK?

And the dame's good for the predictions. She predicted I would spend $20 for nothing that night and she was right.

[Carn]

Originally posted by jambo372
Do any believers recommended any particularly good mediums within or without the Spiritualist movement ?

Just of interest jambo372, why do you post such a question on a sceptic forum?

Why don't you ask such a question on a forum, where not 75% of posters are non-believers?
You certainly cannot expect any answers to your question from them, except "There are no good mediums!".

So what is the point in posting here?

Carn

(edited to add: And it would be nice, if you could tell me in the thread about trying to contact the dead, how i know if i suceeded.)

[Dr Adequate]

Well, to be fair, Janice might have given him some information.

Oh, hang on. Janice? Giving someone information?

When she could come out with some stupid non sequitur?

Forget I spoke.