The 'Original' Beatles

[crimresearch]

Where did Ove go?

I've got some more background regarding his notion that McCartney innovated anything.

"“I said I’m sitting here watching matchbox hole in my clothes.� – Opening verse of Beatles’ “Matchbox�

In 1964 the Beatles took America by storm on the basis of some catchy original songs and a scattering of ‘50s rock ’n roll retreads like “Matchbox.� ...
“Matchbox� was written and recorded by blues legend Blind Lemon Jefferson in 1927...

...Justice demands that this 12 bar debt be paid. "



http://www.blackcommentator.com/128/128_reparations_blues.html

[CFLarsen]

"Matchbox" wasn't released until the Beatles were well established in the US.

The songs on the http://www.beatles-discography.com/us-singles.html]US (http://www.beatles-discography.com/index.html?[url) releases[/URL] were predominantly written by Lennon/McCartney. The rest, as they say, is history.

[bigred]

:rolleyes:

LOL @ "reparation for the blues." That's even more ludicrous than "reparation for slavery." "Hey I think those old blues men should've made more money from the blues than they did back when, so let's give a bunch of money to people who have no right to it - but should get it anyway, because, uh, well, because they're black. Then we'll be 'even.' "

God bless it, sound logic at last....and not in the least bit racist.

LMAO

[rustypouch]

And here I thought this would be a thread about Stu Sutcliffe and Pete Best...

[crimresearch]

"And here I thought this would be a thread about Stu Sutcliffe and Pete Best..."

In a way it is....'Matchbox' was part of the Beatles repertoire long before they came to America.

[Jeff Corey]

A friend bought "Best of the Beatles" at a garage sale for a pittance. Then she was all mad because it was Pete. She tossed it.
I wonder what that mint album cover would be worth today?
But they just don't believe you when you tell them.

[crimresearch]

Originally posted by bigred
:rolleyes:

LOL @ "reparation for the blues." That's even more ludicrous than "reparation for slavery." "Hey I think those old blues men should've made more money from the blues than they did back when, so let's give a bunch of money to people who have no right to it - but should get it anyway, because, uh, well, because they're black. Then we'll be 'even.' "

God bless it, sound logic at last....and not in the least bit racist.

LMAO

If my greatgrandkids ever find out that someone has taken one of my songs, and claimed it as their own, and made millions off of it, I would certainly hope that they went after their share of the legally due royalties as part of my estate.

Or are you saying that only white people should be allowed to inherit money from debts collected on behalf of their deceased relatives?

[phildonnia]

Originally posted by crimresearch
Or are you saying that only white people should be allowed to inherit money from debts collected on behalf of their deceased relatives?

Wait, are we talking about relatives, or people who sort of look similar?

[crimresearch]

In the case of getting the record labels to pay up, I would think that the estates of Willie Dixon, et al. would have first claim.
And the article seemd to suggest that monies not payable directly to descendants could be put into a pot to benefit the blues as an art form today...which I would hate to think would be restricted by color.

I think the writer was using the term 'reparations' a little differently from the politicized 'Mule in every pot' claim.

[pgwenthold]

Originally posted by rustypouch
And here I thought this would be a thread about Stu Sutcliffe and Pete Best...

And Clarence, who played the sax and originally wrote songs like, "She Loves You, Man" and "Help Me, Man" and the ever popular "She's Got a Ticket to Ride and the Bitch Don't Care, Man"

If you listen very closely, on one of the songs you can hear John say, "Hey Paul, let's kick Clarence out of the band."

(credit to Eddie Murphy and SNL for that one)

[crimresearch]

Originally posted by pgwenthold
And Clarence, who played the sax and originally wrote songs like, "She Loves You, Man" and "Help Me, Man" and the ever popular "She's Got a Ticket to Ride and the Bitch Don't Care, Man"

If you listen very closely, on one of the songs you can hear John say, "Hey Paul, let's kick Clarence out of the band."

(credit to Eddie Murphy and SNL for that one)

I'm sorry that the current climate is likely to keep SNL from ever being that sharp with their humor again...

But actually this thread was about Ove's claim that Paul McCartney was the first bass player to innovate melodic playing, and just another one of the articles I've posted on the fact that the Beatles innovated the Beatles sound, not its components.

The race and reparations thing is something the author of the article brought in, I just wanted folks to see how little of Rock'nRoll or Pop was actually originated by the artists associated with the hits.

And this article does a good job of tracing that linkage between the older and the newer styles.

ETA: But now I am worried about OvE...is he out on tour with Polyphonic Spree or something?