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Dancing David
24th March 2005, 05:55 PM
I was cruising the new's watch sites and I found this gem at

Media Matters (http://www.mediamatters.org)



Read the story here (http://mediamatters.org/items/200503220009)



Hammesfahr, a Florida neurologist disciplined in 2003 by the Florida Board of Medicine who claims he can help Terri Schiavo, testified during an October 2002 court hearing on the Schiavo case that his claim to be a Nobel nominee is based on a letter written by Rep. Bilakis (R-FL) recommending him for the prize. But Bilirakis is not qualified to make a valid nomination under the Nobel rules.


So the guy was never an official Nobel Prize Nominee!



From the March 21 edition of Fox News' Hannity & Colmes:
HANNITY: And we're going to talk to a doctor who spent 10 hours with her tonight, and he says that he believes, in his expert opinion -- this is a man that was nominated for a Nobel Prize, by the way -- that she could be rehabilitated.
[...]
HANNITY: And coming up later in the program tonight, we're going to meet a doctor who actually spent 10 hours examining Terri Schiavo. He was nominated for a Nobel Prize. He believes that she could be rehabilitated.
[...]
HANNITY: You were nominated for a Nobel Prize in medicine?
HAMMESFAHR: Yes.
[...]
HANNITY: You were nominated to get a Nobel Peace Prize in this work. Are you saying that this woman could be rehabilitated?
[...]
HANNITY: How is it possible we're in this position if you have examined her? You were up for a Nobel Prize. This is mind boggling to me.
[...]
HANNITY: Well, this is what I want to understand. This is your area of expertise that got you nominated for one of the most prestigious awards in medicine, the Nobel Prize.
[...]
HANNITY: -- hang on a second -- and talk to a Nobel prize-nominated physician who spent 10 hours with her, who believes if, given the opportunity, he can rehabilitate her?
[...]
HANNITY: Imagine being in his position and having a guy like a Nobel Prize nominee like Dr. Hammesfahr, who I'm looking at right now, who spent 10 hours with her and feels that, given the chance, he could rehabilitate this girl.


From the March 21 edition of MSNBC's Scarborough Country:
SCARBOROUGH: And a Nobel Prize-nominated neurologist who has treated Terri Schiavo, he says Terri should live and that her husband is perpetrating a hoax that is just aimed at killing his wife.
[...]
SCARBOROUGH: And I'm going to be talking with a Nobel Prize-nominated neurologist who has treated Terri Schiavo and he says her husband is pulling a huge hoax simply to kill his wife.
[...]
SCARBOROUGH: Coming up: a Nobel Prize-nominated neurologist who is treating Terri Schiavo says her husband is pulling a hoax.
[...]
SCARBOROUGH: So, what is Terri Schiavo's true medical condition? Here to help us sort it out is Dr. William Hammesfahr. He's a neurologist who was nominated for a Nobel Prize for his work in medicine. And he's one of the doctors who has treated Terri Schiavo.

Renfield
24th March 2005, 06:16 PM
the way this claim keeps getting spewed out by the countless talking heads on the right (where o where is our liberal media?) i think it must be in their current "talking points". I imagine we will keep hearing it until the so called mainstream media starts to repeat it as fact.

Bruce
24th March 2005, 06:23 PM
WHAT!?!?!

Are you trying to tell me that Hannity and Scarborough don't check the backgrounds of their guests!?! Heresey, sir! Next you will be telling me that they use fundamentalist Christian websites for reference material rather than history books and authenticated documents. Why would such upstanding media figures do such a thing? Why?!

pgwenthold
25th March 2005, 05:38 AM
Even if it were true that he was nominated for a Nobel Prize, it doesn't matter: ANYONE CAN BE NOMINATED!!!!!!

Shoot, you or I could be nominated if we could find someone to nominate us.

Just because you are nominated doesn't necessarily mean you are in consideration, or even close, for that matter.

Ed
25th March 2005, 05:54 AM
Hannity is a whore that has glommed onto an "issue" that he thinks will resonate in some odd way. The level of his ignorance (or perhaps it is cleverness?) amazes me. He really does lie. Are you aware of that?

headscratcher4
25th March 2005, 06:41 AM
Even if it were true that he was nominated for a Nobel Prize, it doesn't matter: ANYONE CAN BE NOMINATED!!!!!!

Indeed, I am sure Stalin was nominated, and I am sure some whacko nominates Kim Jong Il every year...perhaps the dear leader and Son of the 21st Centrury could go on the show and opine on the case?

P.s. I'll be Hannity is one of those (and, IMO, rightfully in this case) who has complained about the "legitimacy" of the Prize, especially after someone like Arafat was awarded one. Anyone know?

RandFan
25th March 2005, 08:29 AM
Originally posted by pgwenthold
Even if it were true that he was nominated for a Nobel Prize, it doesn't matter: ANYONE CAN BE NOMINATED!!!!!!

Shoot, you or I could be nominated if we could find someone to nominate us.

Just because you are nominated doesn't necessarily mean you are in consideration, or even close, for that matter. Not for medicine.



Nobel Prize Nomination (http://nobelprize.org/medicine/nomination/)

The process of selecting a winner of the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine starts in September, about a year before the prize announcement. At this time, the prize-awarder in Stockholm (The Nobel Assembly at Karolinska Institutet) sends out invitations to about 3,000 people who are allowed to propose winners. These are mainly members of the Nobel Assembly, previous prize winners, and a selection of professors at universities around the world.

The Nominators – Physiology or Medicine

Right to submit proposals for the award of the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine, based on the principle of competence and universality, shall by statute be enjoyed by:[list=1] Members of the Nobel Assembly at Karolinska Institutet, Stockholm;

Swedish and foreign members of the medical class of the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences;

Nobel Laureates in Physiology or Medicine;

Members of the Nobel Committee not qualified under paragraph 1 above;

Holders of established posts as professors at the faculties of medicine in Sweden and holders of similar posts at the faculties of medicine or similar institutions in Denmark, Finland, Iceland and Norway;

Holders of similar posts at no fewer than six other faculties of medicine selected by the Assembly, with a view to ensuring the appropriate distribution of the task among various countries and their seats of learning; and

Practitioners of natural sciences whom the Assembly may otherwise see fit to approach.
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RandFan
25th March 2005, 08:32 AM
And just to clarify;

HANNITY: You were nominated for a Nobel Prize in medicine? No, no he wasn't.

Dubious doctor touted as Nobel Prize nominee by Hannity, Scarborough (http://mediamatters.org/items/printable/200503220009)

Charlie Monoxide
25th March 2005, 10:26 AM
I nominate Dr. Hammesfahr and Sean Hannity for a Nobel Peace Prize.

Charlie (now everything is kosher) Monoxide

Garrette
25th March 2005, 11:47 AM
Dang it, Chuck! Now he might win!