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Filip Sandor
30th March 2005, 11:15 PM
LG,
Do you exist?
If you do... what are you?
Throg
31st March 2005, 02:42 AM
Originally posted by Filip Sandor
LG,
Do you exist?
If you do... what are you?
Yes. If I did not exist I could not answer your question. It would be logically contradictory to say "that which did not exist answered a qustion". More importantly, from my point of view, I experience answering your question. In order to experience, I must exist. This is not terribly far from Desacrtes' "I think therefore I am."
None of this of course proves to you that I exist, nor to me that you exist.
What I am, is at least a thing capable of experiencing reading a question and answering a question. Beyond that, I am forced to make a lot of pragmatic decisions about what it seems are most liklely to be my properties.
Filip Sandor
31st March 2005, 02:58 AM
Originally posted by Throg
Yes. If I did not exist I could not answer your question. It would be logically contradictory to say "that which did not exist answered a qustion". More importantly, from my point of view, I experience answering your question. In order to experience, I must exist. This is not terribly far from Desacrtes' "I think therefore I am."
None of this of course proves to you that I exist, nor to me that you exist.
What I am, is at least a thing capable of experiencing reading a question and answering a question. Beyond that, I am forced to make a lot of pragmatic decisions about what it seems are most liklely to be my properties.
His new name should just be T-LG or Theoretical-LG.. :rolleyes:
Thomas
31st March 2005, 07:49 AM
Originally posted by Filip Sandor
His new name should just be T-LG or Theoretical-LG.. :rolleyes:
No no no, that's far too royal for him. Hypothetical-LG, or maybe theological-LG.. Yea, theological-LG, that's it.
Z
31st March 2005, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by Thomas
No no no, that's far too royal for him. Hypothetical-LG, or maybe theological-LG.. Yea, theological-LG, that's it.
No, no, no! No term that includes 'logical' unless it is 'illogical' may be applied to LG... How about 'Presumed-LG'? Or, better still, 'Alleged-LG'?
ETA - Better even still - Alleged Life Gazer As Experienced.... We can just call him A.L.G.A.E. for short.
Filip Sandor
1st April 2005, 01:26 AM
Originally posted by zaayrdragon
No, no, no! No term that includes 'logical' unless it is 'illogical' may be applied to LG... How about 'Presumed-LG'? Or, better still, 'Alleged-LG'?
ETA - Better even still - Alleged Life Gazer As Experienced.... We can just call him A.L.G.A.E. for short.
I kinda liked Hypothetical-LG.. almost sounds like Hyperdimensional-LG.
Throg
1st April 2005, 01:35 AM
Originally posted by Filip Sandor
I kinda liked Hypothetical-LG.. almost sounds like Hyperdimensional-LG.
How about, "missed the LG" in the thread title, thought this was a thread about philosophical scepticism, and now feels like a fool.
Mercutio
1st April 2005, 05:19 AM
Originally posted by Throg
How about, "missed the LG" in the thread title, thought this was a thread about philosophical scepticism, and now feels like a fool. Trust me, Throg--no one familiar with the accumulated works of LifeGazer would ever confuse you with him (her? it?). Do a search by username, read, and enjoy!
Wudang
3rd April 2005, 08:38 AM
Originally posted by Mercutio
Trust me, Throg--no one familiar with the accumulated works of LifeGazer would ever confuse you with him (her? it?). Do a search by username, read, and enjoy!
Hmm, really? I have been considering the idea that he is an lg sock-puppet.
Throg
3rd April 2005, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by Wudang
Hmm, really? I have been considering the idea that he is an lg sock-puppet.
Ah, Wudang what a delightfully lucid and well-though out accusation. I am sure you will now provide reams of supporting evidence rather than repeat yourself endlessly and then pretend to be deaf or too tired to respond to any counter-argument. I commend you on your rapier-sharp wit, your finely honed intellect and your almost superhuman-commitment to intellectual rigour.
Wudang
3rd April 2005, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by Throg
Ah, Wudang what a delightfully lucid and well-though out accusation. I am sure you will now provide reams of supporting evidence rather than repeat yourself endlessly and then pretend to be deaf or too tired to respond to any counter-argument. I commend you on your rapier-sharp wit, your finely honed intellect and your almost superhuman-commitment to intellectual rigour.
What a wonderful demonstration of your lack of reading skills. I said "I have been considering the idea that he is an lg sock-puppet." which is not an accusation.
As for the thread I abandoned - I abandoned it, as you know, because of your misplaced arroagance about your own knowledge of physics, which is grossly lacking and stuck in the same 19th century as Lgs, your inability to grasp that allowing a point for the sake of argument to see where the argument leads is not all the same thing as agreeing the point is correct. It was patently obvious to me that since your graps of physics was too weak and your own understanding of your lack of knowledge too great, then attempting to correct you would be a fruitless effort.
And that is what an accusation looks like.
And the arrogance, ignorance and lack of reading skills is why I was considering the idea that you were an lg puppet.
Clearer?
Throg
3rd April 2005, 01:29 PM
Originally posted by Wudang
What a wonderful demonstration of your lack of reading skills. I said "I have been considering the idea that he is an lg sock-puppet." which is not an accusation.
As for the thread I abandoned - I abandoned it, as you know, because of your misplaced arroagance about your own knowledge of physics, which is grossly lacking and stuck in the same 19th century as Lgs, your inability to grasp that allowing a point for the sake of argument to see where the argument leads is not all the same thing as agreeing the point is correct. It was patently obvious to me that since your graps of physics was too weak and your own understanding of your lack of knowledge too great, then attempting to correct you would be a fruitless effort.
And that is what an accusation looks like.
And the arrogance, ignorance and lack of reading skills is why I was considering the idea that you were an lg puppet.
Clearer?
Apparently you are not familiar with the subtleties of our language which allow for oblique accusations.
Look you really need to catch up on that sleep you said you are lacking. You are attributing positions to me that I have never taken and using made-up words like "graps". You are also relying amost entirely on rhetoric in this post. I see no supporting examples or anything resembling an argument.
An arrogant puppet is a contradiction in terms by the way but yes, it is much clearer now. Thanks ever so.
Wudang
3rd April 2005, 01:41 PM
Originally posted by Throg
Apparently you are not familiar with the subtleties of our language which allow for oblique accusations.
Look you really need to catch up on that sleep you said you are lacking. You are attributing positions to me that I have never taken and using made-up words like "graps". You are also relying amost entirely on rhetoric in this post. I see no supporting examples or anything resembling an argument.
An arrogant puppet is a contradiction in terms by the way but yes, it is much clearer now. Thanks ever so.
You know, I do believe you've just convinced me you're not a sock puppet. My apologies for any offence given.
lifegazer
3rd April 2005, 01:47 PM
Originally posted by Wudang
You know, I do believe you've just convinced me you're not a sock puppet. My apologies for any offence given.
No problem.
Throg
4th April 2005, 01:49 AM
Originally posted by Wudang
You know, I do believe you've just convinced me you're not a sock puppet. My apologies for any offence given.
Apologies accepted. It is forgotten.
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