"La mission civilatrice"..."Beat the F**k Out of Detainees"

[demon]

"Beat the **** out of detainess"
That's how US soldiers were told to treat prisoners in Iraq , according to documents obtained by the ACLU:

quote:
"The ACLU said the reason for the delay in delivering the more than 1,200 pages of documents was "evident in the contents," which include reports of brutal beatings, "exercise until exhaustion," and sworn statements that soldiers were told to "beat the f**k out of" detainees. One file cites evidence that military intelligence personnel in Iraq "tortured" detainees held in their custody."

...

"And the ACLU has disclosed a Sept. 14, 2003 memo signed by Lt. Gen. Ricardo A. Sanchez, then senior commander of U.S. forces in Iraq, authorizing 29 interrogation techniques, including 12 that "far exceeded limits established by the Army's own Field Manual."
http://www.ipsnews.net/new_nota.asp?idnews=28099

And you wonder why they're trying to escape from the prisons over there...
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1062920.cms


The gates of hell are open in Iraq.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1449864,00.html

Glory, Glory Hallelujah, "la mission civilatrice" is on once again.

[fishbob]

The Onion - News in Brief (http://www.theonion.com/)
American Torturing Jobs Increasingly Outsourced
WASHINGTON, DC—AFL-CIO vice president Linda Chavez-Thompson, representing the American Federation of Interrogation Torturers, released a statement Monday deriding the CIA's "extraordinary rendition" program, under which American torturing jobs are outsourced to foreign markets. "Outsourcing the task of interrogating terror suspects to countries like Egypt, Syria, and Saudi Arabia is having a crippling effect on the Americans who make a living by stripping detainees nude, shackling them to the floor, and beating the living **** out of them," Chavez-Thompson said. "And specialists within the field—corrosive-material chemists, ocular surgeons, and testicular electricians—are lucky to find any jobs at all. How are they supposed to feed their families?" Attorney General Alberto Gonzales defended extraordinary rendition, saying the program will create jobs in the long run by fostering a global climate of torture tolerance.

[RandFan]

These actions were wrong and we should ensure that this type of behavior does not continue.

[demon]

RF
"These actions were wrong and we should ensure that this type of behavior does not continue."

Well said.

[Charlie Monoxide]

Originally posted by demon
RF
"These actions were wrong and we should ensure that this type of behavior does not continue."

Well said. How about also punishing the offenders so that in the future others will not be so inclined to highjack human rights.

Charlie (start with Bush) Monoxide

[demon]

Charlie (well said) Monoxide;
"How about also punishing the offenders so that in the future others will not be so inclined to highjack human rights."

I could go for that too.

[a_unique_person]

http://www.theage.com.au/news/Iraq/Probe-links-CIA-to-Iraqi-deaths/2005/04/05/1112489455097.html

To the point of homicide, it appears.



CIA interrogations may have played a role in the deaths of several detainees in Iraq as Bush administration lawyers were advocating an aggressive interrogation policy critics say led to torture, according to military documents and officials.

US officials have formally disclosed the death of only one person interrogated by the CIA in Iraq - Manadel al-Jamadi, an unregistered "ghost" prisoner at Abu Ghraib who died on November 4, 2003, while handcuffed in a prison shower room.

But sworn statements provided to army investigators by military intelligence and police at Abu Ghraib contain at least four references to CIA detainees dying during interrogations that do not correspond with the al-Jamadi case.

The documents, obtained by the American Civil Liberties Union, were collected for an army investigation that first disclosed the presence of unregistered CIA detainees at Abu Ghraib last September.

The documents were posted on the ACLU's website at http://www.aclu.org last month. The army used the acronym "OGA" for "other government agency" to refer almost exclusively to the CIA.

One document refers to an OGA detainee dying under interrogation in September 2003, two months before al-Jamadi.



Bush and Co are now happy to take responsibility for anything that happens in the world that they feel is a result of the Iraq invasion, Kyrgyzstan, for example, but nothing else, like this, for example.

[RandFan]

Originally posted by Charlie Monoxide
How about also punishing the offenders so that in the future others will not be so inclined to highjack human rights. I thought that was implicit in my post. My concern is that the Military as is typical of all Militaries is in CYA your ass mode. I doubt we will ever know the whole truth.

[peptoabysmal]

I think Sanchez will be cleared and it will come down to either rogue decisions by individuals or a gross misunderstanding by those individuals.

From page 2:
Use of techniques B, I, O, X, Y, AA and CC on enemy prisoners of war must be approved by me personally prior to use. Submit written requests for use of these techniques, with supporting rationale, to me through the CJTF-7 C2. A legal review from the CJTF-7 SJA must accompany each request.


From pages 3,4 & 5: (describes above techniques and others)
B: Incentive/Removal of Incentive: Providing a reward or removing a privilege, above and beyond those that are required by the Geneva Convention, from detainee.

I. Pride and Ego Down: Attacking or insulting the ego of a detainee, not beyond the limits that would apply to and EPW (Enemy Prisoner of War).

O. Mutt and Jeff: A team consisting of a friendly and harsh interrogator. The harsh interrogator might employ the Pride and Ego Down technique.

X. Isolation: Isolating the detainee from other detainees while still complying with basic standards of treatment.

Y. Presence of Military Working Dog Exploits Arab fear of dogs while maintaining security during interrogations. Dogs will be muzzled and under control of MWD handler at all times to prevent contact with detainee.

AA. Yelling, Loud Music, and Light Control: Used to create fear, disorient detainee and prolong captive shock. Volume controlled to prevent injury.

CC. Stress Positions: Use of physical postures (sitting, standing, knelling, prone, etc) for no more than 1 hour per use. Use of technique(s) will not exceed 4 hours and adequate rest between use of each position will be provided.


File located here:
http://www.aclu.org/SafeandFree/SafeandFree.cfm?ID=17851&c=206

Did the ACLU actually read this document before they went off on a tangent?

[peptoabysmal]

Here's an update to the story. I was right on one count so far. The rest of the details are yet to surface. Do I get the million dollars? :p

After assessing the allegations against Sanchez and taking sworn statements from 37 people, the Army's inspector general, Lt. Gen. Stanley E. Green, concluded that the allegations were unsubstantiated, according to officials familiar with the details of Green's probe.

Green reached the same conclusion in the cases of two generals and a colonel who worked on Sanchez's staff.
Army Clears Officers in Abu Ghraib Case (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=696648&page=1)