Matriarchal Terrorist Nuns Should Be Executed as Traitors

[subgenius]

Nuns Await Verdict in Denver Protest Case

April 4, 2003 09:52 PM EST


DENVER - Jurors began deliberating Friday in the case of three Roman Catholic nuns accused of defacing a missile silo during a peace protest.

The jury was sent home at about 5 p.m. Deliberations will resume Monday.

Sisters Ardeth Platte, 66, Jackie Hudson, 68 and Carol Gilbert, 55, are accused of breaking into a Minuteman III missile silo site on Colorado's northeastern plains Oct. 6. They allegedly defaced it by swinging hammers and painting crosses on it with their own blood.

They have been charged with interfering with the nation's defense and causing property damage of more than $1,000. The nuns could receive up to 30 years in prison if convicted of both charges.
http://start.earthlink.net/newsarticle?cat=6&aid=D7Q749QG0_story

Who cares if they're in their 50's and 60's and did no real harm....let's string em up....eh JK?
And if we can't defend our nukes from nuns that's no excuse. Right weasel boy?

[schplurg]

Well I don't know about you, but I think it's high-time someone did something about the recent terrorist attacks by rogue nuns!!! It's become a real problem!

;)

[Troll]

Originally posted by subgenius
Nuns Await Verdict in Denver Protest Case

April 4, 2003 09:52 PM EST


DENVER - Jurors began deliberating Friday in the case of three Roman Catholic nuns accused of defacing a missile silo during a peace protest.

The jury was sent home at about 5 p.m. Deliberations will resume Monday.

Sisters Ardeth Platte, 66, Jackie Hudson, 68 and Carol Gilbert, 55, are accused of breaking into a Minuteman III missile silo site on Colorado's northeastern plains Oct. 6. They allegedly defaced it by swinging hammers and painting crosses on it with their own blood.

They have been charged with interfering with the nation's defense and causing property damage of more than $1,000. The nuns could receive up to 30 years in prison if convicted of both charges.
http://start.earthlink.net/newsarticle?cat=6&aid=D7Q749QG0_story

Who cares if they're in their 50's and 60's and did no real harm....let's string em up....eh JK?
And if we can't defend our nukes from nuns that's no excuse. Right weasel boy?

Nuns painting crosses with their own blood? Little old ladies painting crosses with their own blood? Both seem a little over the top. The nun part just seems to be the kicker.

But don't confuse the part of "could receive up to 30 years" with the reality of people being lienient on little old ladies. The catholic church will be harder on them than the law will be in the long run.

[Richard G]

Equal protection under the law, gauranteed in our country, ensures all laws are enforced uniformly for everyone. Nuns included.

[Richard G]

"I cheered when then the WTC came down." Undercover elephant before the apology

Just noticed your sig. Did this guy really say this???

[Troll]

Originally posted by Richard G


Just noticed your sig. Did this guy really say this???

All quotes in the siggy are legit. But UCE did apologize after saying that and then went on later to say the second quote.

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by subgenius
Nuns Await Verdict in Denver Protest Case

April 4, 2003 09:52 PM EST


DENVER - Jurors began deliberating Friday in the case of three Roman Catholic nuns accused of defacing a missile silo during a peace protest.

The jury was sent home at about 5 p.m. Deliberations will resume Monday.

Sisters Ardeth Platte, 66, Jackie Hudson, 68 and Carol Gilbert, 55, are accused of breaking into a Minuteman III missile silo site on Colorado's northeastern plains Oct. 6. They allegedly defaced it by swinging hammers and painting crosses on it with their own blood.

They have been charged with interfering with the nation's defense and causing property damage of more than $1,000. The nuns could receive up to 30 years in prison if convicted of both charges.
http://start.earthlink.net/newsarticle?cat=6&aid=D7Q749QG0_story

Who cares if they're in their 50's and 60's and did no real harm....let's string em up....eh JK?
And if we can't defend our nukes from nuns that's no excuse. Right weasel boy?

If the nuns get treated like the terrorist crack-dealing crack heads who gun people down everyday so the anti-gun crowd can use that to go after the 2nd Amendment, the nuns should walk with total freedom in about 20 minutes after they get to court.

But since the nuns are not crack-dealing terrorists who gun people down thus aiding the radical left, and since the nuns can't provide extortionists some corporation to blame for their actions, they will probably get life in prison.

If only the nuns could provide the "system" some form of "shakedown". That would get them off.

JK

[arcticpenguin]

The nuns have said they were compelled to act as war with Iraq moved closer and because the United States has never promised not to use nuclear weapons.


It isn't clearly stated - did the silo actually have a missile in it?

If the U.S. were to promise never to use nuclear weapons, why would we still have them?

I think an insanity defense should be effective in this case. Lock em up in the loony bin.

[Nasarius]

Originally posted by arcticpenguin
If the U.S. were to promise never to use nuclear weapons, why would we still have them?

They're talking specifically about using/not using nuclear weapons in the war against Iraq.

[subgenius]

Must be some pretty good security at that facility. Can you imagine that it had any importance if they can't keep 60 year old nuns out?:eek:

[corplinx]

I think they should be released if the nuns can show where in their own holy book the concept of orders of celibate women is mandated.

[toddjh]

Originally posted by subgenius
They have been charged with interfering with the nation's defense and causing property damage of more than $1,000. The nuns could receive up to 30 years in prison if convicted of both charges.

Who cares if they're in their 50's and 60's and did no real harm....let's string em up....eh JK?

Why does it matter how old they are?

I don't know what the legal definition of "interfering with the nation's defense" is, but unless their vandalism would've prevented the operation of the silo (ignoring the fact that there's no way in hell the silo would have been needed, even if it were active), that seems like a bogus charge.

As for the property damage, sure, sentence them like anyone else.

Jeremy

[subgenius]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


If the nuns get treated like the terrorist crack-dealing crack heads who gun people down everyday so the anti-gun crowd can use that to go after the 2nd Amendment, the nuns should walk with total freedom in about 20 minutes after they get to court.

But since the nuns are not crack-dealing terrorists who gun people down thus aiding the radical left, and since the nuns can't provide extortionists some corporation to blame for their actions, they will probably get life in prison.

If only the nuns could provide the "system" some form of "shakedown". That would get them off.

JK
This is unintelligible and funny.
No mention of them being leftist commie matriarchal totalitarians.
Figured there would be some mental gymnastics involved in the analysis. Kinda threw you for a loop there.

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by subgenius

This is unintelligible and funny.
No mention of them being leftist commie matriarchal totalitarians.
Figured there would be some mental gymnastics involved in the analysis. Kinda threw you for a loop there.

You don't need mental gymnastics to understand what I wrote and I wrote it to be funny. The thread needed some humor since we were talking about the perverse court system in this country, one in need of complete scrapping and rebuilding.

JK

[subgenius]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


You don't need mental gymnastics to understand what I wrote and I wrote it to be funny. The thread needed some humor since we were talking about the perverse court system in this country, one in need of complete scrapping and rebuilding.

JK
Don't like the American system as laid down by the Founders eh?
Oh yeah, and what about the nuns? Commies? Feminazis? Traitors?

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by subgenius

Don't like the American system as laid down by the Founders eh?
Oh yeah, and what about the nuns? Commies? Feminazis? Traitors?

What is happening in our courts today is not the intent of the founders. There will be tort reform to fix it.

As to the nuns--I don't know what was on their minds. They weren't communists or matriarchal totalitarian facsists though. To be a part of that group requires massive amounts of personnel and no communist or feminzai can be an individual...so the two nuns are merely spikes in the graph so to speak...abnormalities.

JK

[subgenius]

You mean exceptions carved out by you because they are of your religious persuasion.

[Leif Roar]

Originally posted by subgenius
Must be some pretty good security at that facility. Can you imagine that it had any importance if they can't keep 60 year old nuns out?:eek:

You shouldn't be so dismissive of old nuns, there's a lot about the clerical orders that is very hush-hush. I can't say much, but there's a reason why both nuns and ninjas dress primarily in black.

;-)

[subgenius]

Maybe the real story here is lax security at our defense facilities.

[Rusty_the_boy_robot]

How dare a NUN be for peace! Obviously God wants us to kill as many Iraqi's as possible, that will make it easier for us after the war.

[arcticpenguin]

More nuns behaving badly (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=573&ncid=757&e=1&u=/nm/20030409/od_nm/odd_italy_nuns_dc)

[schplurg]

Gilbert and Platte both lived at Jonah House, a communal residence for pacifists founded by Philip Berrigan in Baltimore. Hudson belongs to a similar group in Poulsbo, Wash. All joined the Dominican order in Grand Rapids, Mich.
Although my first post here was "tongue-in-cheek", I think they should be prosecuted.

Philip Berrigan was an extreme radical, though a non-violent one, who has been in and out of prison for much of his life. These Nuns affiliate themselves with him and his "Jonah House". These aren't cute senile little old ladies, they knew exactly what they were doing and what the repercussions would be.

I don't think they should be sentenced to 30 years of imprisonment, but they can't be let off the hook. The sentence should be appropriate for the crime they commited, regardless of their age and religious beliefs. They should be tried and sentenced fairly, just as any other citizen would be under the exact same circumstances.

If you believe differently, then does that mean that we should also be lenient on the "harmless old men" of the clergy who have molested little boys? Although the crime of child molestation is obviously much more serious, the point is the same. A white collar does not exempt you from answering to our legal system.

[subgenius]

You are correct. And they expect punishment. Obviously my title was tongue in cheek as well. Bait for a troll I'm ashamed to admit.
They should be punished commesurate with the crime of defacing property that apparently was not so vital that they were able to keep nuns out.
Again I think if they claim it to be so vital, there should be an investigation as to who let these seniors penetrate security, and they be held accountable as well.
If it was a vital defense point, it doesn't bode well for domestic (not to use the Goebbels-like term "Homeland") security.

[Roadtoad]

I'd say let them pay for the physical damage they did to the silo, and let it go. 30 year sentence? For this sort of silliness? Please...

The only reason I could see for anyone being sentenced for that length of time is because they humiliated the commander of the missle site. That ain't happening.

Hell, I caught more flak for taking a whiz against a tree along a fence line near McGuire AFB back around 1980 than these nuns will face.

[subgenius]

Originally posted by Roadtoad
I'd say let them pay for the physical damage they did to the silo, and let it go. 30 year sentence? For this sort of silliness? Please...

The only reason I could see for anyone being sentenced for that length of time is because they humiliated the commander of the missle site. That ain't happening.

Hell, I caught more flak for taking a whiz against a tree along a fence line near McGuire AFB back around 1980 than these nuns will face.
That we don't know, but thanks for sharing.;)
What did you get so we can compare?:confused:

[Roadtoad]

Originally posted by subgenius

That we don't know, but thanks for sharing.;)
What did you get so we can compare?:confused:

I got my ass chewed by the Security Police, a senior NCO. I'd have taken a federal magistrate any day.:o

[subgenius]

Originally posted by Roadtoad


I got my ass chewed by the Security Police, a senior NCO. I'd have taken a federal magistrate any day.:o
B.S.
How much time/fine would you trade? I hate hypotheticals, its too easy to give the easy answer.
I guaran-goddam-tee ya you wouldn't even want to be facing the outside chance of 1 year much less 30.
Let's keep it real.

[Roadtoad]

OH, PLEASE!

You don't really think anyone is going to do either, do you!?!?!?! Some Federal Judge is going to fine them $25, call it "time served," and they'll go outside and whine about the war.

As to the other side of it: you've probably never spent time in the military. (If you have, then you've forgotten what happens when one NCO calls YOUR NCO. They will make your life HELL!)

[subgenius]

Oh please! (Don't shout at me)
I said "facing".
You haven't and don't know what the uncertainty is like. You're sure not gonna guarantee what they get, or don't.
I still asked you what $ or time was the equivalent of what happened to you. Let's have an answer. 30 days? 60? 90? A year?
You've been in jail?
Got your ass chewed out?...boo *********** hoo...(compared to jail or $)
keep it real...you probably haven't been charged with a 30 year felony have you?

[peptoabysmal]

Err… Since when is the punishment for the commission of a crime supposed to depend on age / gender / religious beliefs? Yes I know it happens, I'm not that naive, nonetheless...

Maybe these nuns should have just molested children like their male Catholic counterparts. They might have gotten off with a lighter sentence.

I just hope the judge isn't still upset about that whole "Spanish Inquisition" thing. Catholics are just so misunderstood *sniff*.

The damage was more than $1000? Did they mess up one of those military grade screwdrivers or something?

Oh well, don't mind me, I'm just trying to make enough posts so I can get one of those cool Avatars .:p

[subgenius]

Originally posted by peptoabysmal
Err… Since when is the punishment for the commission of a crime supposed to depend on age / gender / religious beliefs? Yes I know it happens, I'm not that naive, nonetheless...

Maybe these nuns should have just molested children like their male Catholic counterparts. They might have gotten off with a lighter sentence.

I just hope the judge isn't still upset about that whole "Spanish Inquisition" thing. Catholics are just so misunderstood *sniff*.

The damage was more than $1000? Did they mess up one of those military grade screwdrivers or something?

Oh well, don't mind me, I'm just trying to make enough posts so I can get one of those cool Avatars .:p
The punishment should not consider those things. Yeah their blood cost a lot to remove. I'm still wondering about security at our nuclear silos.
The punishment should consider the actual damage to society but since most judges are elected, and thus subjecting them to political, not judicial, pressure, they are liable to do anything that will get themselves re-elected, not what is just. And in these times.....anything is possible.
So what's your "cool" avatar gonna be?
It better be good, we're expecting a lot from you, considering your cool nick.

[Roadtoad]

Sorry for the shout, SG...

Getting your ass chewed is one thing. Pulling extra duty night after night, day after day, facing an Article 15, (where they take part of your pay and a stripe or two), or possibly a Summary Court Martial with a military judge, that's another. (Fortunately, I didn't get either, just a Counseling Statement, reminding me that I was supposed to know better.)

Had run ins with the law before. Machts Nichts stuff. Never got anything serious, really. Paid out some heavy duty fines, so I figured it was time to grow up and act like an adult, especially since I had a wife and kids to think about. Nothing like having real responsibilities on your shoulders to force you to think about what's really important. (Just as an FYI, my record is clean, now.)

I'll reiterate my point: some judge is going to look at these women, and shrug. He'll do this because of their age, their religious beliefs, and he'll do it because of the politics involved. I'll be extremely surprised if they do a day in jail. (If they do, let me know. I'll buy the first round. I figure I owe you that. I've enjoyed your posts, and your arguments, that much.) There's no gain for either the Federal Government, or for the women involved in them going to jail. That's going to weigh on anyone prosecuting this case.

The charges, as near as I can guess, are the biggest shock in this. Some prosecutor probably thought, "Hey, if we hit them with something really extreme on the charges, maybe they won't do this again!" Probably won't work, but that would be my guess as to why the charges sound so harsh. (I could very easily be wrong here; I have been before.)

[subgenius]

I was just kidding about the shouting thing.

Understanding its just a prediction, I'll take that drink offer. Make mine an Irish Boilermaker (I just made it up): a shot of Old Bushmill's with a Guinness chaser.