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Kilted
19th April 2005, 06:38 AM
Hi there just wondering what you all think of this BBC news (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4450363.stm) Its of special significance to me as i live in one of the halls of residence at Stirling Uni, and although it says all rooms have bibles, they must've missed our corridor out :)

Lisa Simpson
19th April 2005, 06:53 AM
I'm assuming Stirling is a secular university, in which case, I agree, the Bibles should be removed. People who want to read the Bible can get their own copies.

Did you check everywhere for the Bible? Perhaps it's someplace you haven't bothered to clean.

Gulliamo
19th April 2005, 07:26 AM
I've always wondered why hotels have bibles in them. Especially given the number of Patel-hotels (hotels owned by Hindus). Who pays for these bibles? The hotel (and therefore the consumer)? Or are they donated by some organization.

DarkMagician
19th April 2005, 08:15 AM
Obligatory Linkage (http://www.sierratel.com/evildave/Bible1001.html)

Kilted
19th April 2005, 08:21 AM
Did you check everywhere for the Bible? Perhaps it's someplace you haven't bothered to clean.

Yup i definately dont have one- seems my hall is full of unconvertable heathens. I do know there are bibles in the other halls however.

Also they weren't speeking of an outright ban - just the removal of the bibles from rooms (and putting them somewhere such as the communal areas, and encouraging other faiths to put their books there aswell).

Marquis de Carabas
19th April 2005, 08:23 AM
Originally posted by Gulliamo
I've always wondered why hotels have bibles in them. Especially given the number of Patel-hotels (hotels owned by Hindus). Who pays for these bibles? The hotel (and therefore the consumer)? Or are they donated by some organization.
Most of the hotel Bibles come from the Gideons International (http://www.gideons.org/), free of charge. It's their Gawd-given duty, they say. It may well be that similar groups have sprung up to do essentially the same--copycat crimes, if you like. :D

from the link
This is a primary function of The Gideons, placing and distributing Bibles and New Testaments in the human traffic lanes and streams of national life.

TragicMonkey
19th April 2005, 09:30 AM
As a child, I always liked looking at the Gideon Bibles while in hotels. They usually had one particular passage, I forget which, translated into lots of different languages. I liked seeing all the foreign script. I decided that Tamil is the prettiest, but looks really hard to read.

Marquis de Carabas
19th April 2005, 09:31 AM
Originally posted by TragicMonkey
As a child, I always liked looking at the Gideon Bibles while in hotels. They usually had one particular passage, I forget which, translated into lots of different languages. I liked seeing all the foreign script. I decided that Tamil is the prettiest, but looks really hard to read.
I believe the passage in question is John 3:16.

uruk
19th April 2005, 09:41 AM
What culture uses tamil?

Over here at a secular college, the gideons always come once a year to distribute bibles on campus, even though its officially against college policy to solicit.

Desertphile
20th April 2005, 12:46 PM
I like finding Bibles in motel rooms. That is why I always carry a fat felt-tipped marker to write the proper warning on the inside cover.

Gestahl
20th April 2005, 01:35 PM
Originally posted by uruk
What culture uses tamil?

Over here at a secular college, the gideons always come once a year to distribute bibles on campus, even though its officially against college policy to solicit.

Southern India and Sri Lanka.

And indeed it is a pretty written language:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_alphabet

brodski
20th April 2005, 02:00 PM
Originally posted by Desertphile
I like finding Bibles in motel rooms. That is why I always carry a fat felt-tipped marker to write the proper warning on the inside cover.

Would that warning be

"To my darling Candy. All characters portrayed within this book are fictitous and any resemblance to persons living or dead is purely coincidental."

By any chance?

Blue Monk
20th April 2005, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by Desertphile
I like finding Bibles in motel rooms. That is why I always carry a fat felt-tipped marker to write the proper warning on the inside cover.

Really? I like highlighting the dirty parts.

Some of that begatting goes on for pages.

Desertphile
20th April 2005, 06:54 PM
Originally posted by brodski
Would that warning be

"To my darling Candy. All characters portrayed within this book are fictitous and any resemblance to persons living or dead is purely coincidental."

By any chance?

More along the lines of http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/4/15/17369/0919

though I usually put something like "WARNING! Reading this book has been known to cause mental illness and drive people into violent homicidal behavior....." etc.

TragicMonkey
20th April 2005, 07:18 PM
Wait, those bibles in the hotel rooms are for reading? I've been blowing my nose on them!

thatguywhojuggles
20th April 2005, 11:39 PM
Originally posted by TragicMonkey
Wait, those bibles in the hotel rooms are for reading? I've been blowing my nose on them!

It was several years ago, but I clearly recall ripping pages from a pornographic magazine I had purchased, and slipping pages of it into the motel room's bible.

In hind sight, I must say that was a bit disrespectful, however, I feel no regret having done so.

uruk
21st April 2005, 08:10 AM
Southern India and Sri Lanka.
Thanks. For a minute there I was begining to think that tamales had a written language.

TragicMonkey
21st April 2005, 08:31 AM
Originally posted by thatguywhojuggles
It was several years ago, but I clearly recall ripping pages from a pornographic magazine I had purchased, and slipping pages of it into the motel room's bible.

In hind sight, I must say that was a bit disrespectful, however, I feel no regret having done so.

That was horribly disrepectful, and you should be ashamed! Those models work hard, excuse the pun, and bring happiness to millions of readers. They do a difficult job with an enthusiastic smile, logistics permitting, and deserve respect.

Neutiquam Erro
21st April 2005, 11:34 AM
Originally posted by Marquis de Carabas
Most of the hotel Bibles come from the Gideons International (http://www.gideons.org/), free of charge. It's their Gawd-given duty, they say. It may well be that similar groups have sprung up to do essentially the same--copycat crimes, if you like. :D

The Gideons, International, indeed. Headquarted right across the street (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=50+Century+Blvd,+37214&spn=0.014892,0.022616&t=k&hl=en) from my office. Most days it's just embarassing, but sometimes I try to imagine it's kind of cool sharing the neighborhood with an outfit mentioned in a Beatles song.

Marquis de Carabas
21st April 2005, 11:44 AM
Originally posted by Neutiquam Erro
The Gideons, International, indeed. Headquarted right across the street (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=50+Century+Blvd,+37214&spn=0.014892,0.022616&t=k&hl=en) from my office. Most days it's just embarassing, but sometimes I try to imagine it's kind of cool sharing the neighborhood with an outfit mentioned in a Beatles song.
You think that's embarassing? My dad's the financial officer for the local Gideons' chapter.

Kopji
22nd April 2005, 12:35 AM
In case the immoral heathen child-head-nailing atheists hear about all that money being left in bibles, it is an urban legend.

http://www.snopes.com/luck/gideon.asp

Jas
22nd April 2005, 11:52 AM
I've just heard on the radio how some hospitals in the eastern provinces have removed the Bibles from the bedside tables, as you can't sterilize a book. Of ciyrse, the clergy is all up in arms about this, saying it's political correctness (even if it is, they still shouldn't have them in there, IMHO).

Taeolas
23rd April 2005, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by Jas
I've just heard on the radio how some hospitals in the eastern provinces have removed the Bibles from the bedside tables, as you can't sterilize a book. Of ciyrse, the clergy is all up in arms about this, saying it's political correctness (even if it is, they still shouldn't have them in there, IMHO).

Actually, it's only the hospital in Fredericton, New Brunswick (City I'm in at the moment), though since it's run by the River Regional Authority, the hospitals in Woodstock and Perth Andover may have them removed as well (Probably not, those hospitals are pissed enough at the authority as is and wouldn't listen to it).

The Hospital claims it is for health reasons; to cut down on the paces bacteria can grow on. (A reasonable measure IMO). At the same time they removed the bibles, they removed the phone books and other extra material (the hospital directory I think was mentionned). If the patiant requests a Bible, a fresh new one will be ready for the patiant at any time they want it.

And yes, the clergy and the Mayor of the city and a bunch of other people are up at arms about it, though they don't seem to be fighting it TOO much. Moncton and Saint John hospital authorities (the ones that run the other 2 big hospitals in the province) have said they have no plans to do so.

I did hear a few people saying "Well if bibles are such dangerous sources of bacteria, then why not desks and lamps and those things? You aren't removing those, so leave the Bibles in there too.". *rolls eyes* IMO, unlike Bibles those things are needed in a room, and can be cleaned fairly easily anyways. Most books probably sit there unused most of the time, and are difficult to clean anyways.

I do hope that it does spread eventually, or at the very least the Chalmers Hospital doesn't bow to the pressure, but it doesn't mean much to me either way.

TragicMonkey
23rd April 2005, 07:57 PM
Originally posted by Jas
I've just heard on the radio how some hospitals in the eastern provinces have removed the Bibles from the bedside tables, as you can't sterilize a book. Of ciyrse, the clergy is all up in arms about this, saying it's political correctness (even if it is, they still shouldn't have them in there, IMHO).

This is wrong of me. I'd like to go up to one of the agitated clergy and ask them to bless a Bible. "Please bless this Bible. It meant so much to Gramma. She kept it with her always, and it greatly comforted her in her last days." And as the clergyman handles it, add "It was the nicest Bible in the entire Ebola virus ward. Every single one of the patients read aloud from it, no matter how much they were coughing."

AWPrime
24th April 2005, 07:36 AM
Originally posted by TragicMonkey
Wait, those bibles in the hotel rooms are for reading? I've been blowing my nose on them!

Two words: Toilet paper.

TragicMonkey
24th April 2005, 08:05 AM
Originally posted by AWPrime
Two words: Toilet paper.

That would be uncomfortable, both for God and my posterior.

And I just know someone's working on a pun involving the word "holy". Please don't.