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Tony
6th April 2003, 06:32 PM
http://www.right-thinking.com/images/uploads/1amymcgrew.jpg

http://www.right-thinking.com/images/uploads/3sweenx.jpg

http://www.right-thinking.com/images/uploads/5seanmurphy.jpg

http://www.right-thinking.com/images/uploads/6lukebilger.jpg

http://www.idiotarian.com/images/moore/oscare.jpg

bva
6th April 2003, 06:42 PM
This is the funniest thing Ive seen in a long time :)

Reager
6th April 2003, 07:47 PM
Originally posted by bva
This is the funniest thing Ive seen in a long time :)

I don't think it's remotely funny. No matter what you may think about Michael Moore, there is no evidence suggesting that he hates Jews, is a Nazi, or that he is in bed with Osama Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein. I defy Tony, bva, or anyone else to justify those "photos" as anything other than heinous lies.

Mike

sir drinks-a-lot
6th April 2003, 08:00 PM
Those are great. Thanks for posting.:)

bva
6th April 2003, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by mfeldman


I don't think it's remotely funny. No matter what you may think about Michael Moore, there is no evidence suggesting that he hates Jews, is a Nazi, or that he is in bed with Osama Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein. I defy Tony, bva, or anyone else to justify those "photos" as anything other than heinous lies.

Mike

Its funny. Lighten up Fem-Nazi bot.

corplinx
6th April 2003, 08:07 PM
I'm not big fan of photoshopping someone into pictures with hitler or bin laden. Its not witty. Using hitler/nazi references is a gin of an uncreative mind usually.

bva
6th April 2003, 08:12 PM
Originally posted by corplinx
I'm not big fan of photoshopping someone into pictures with hitler or bin laden. Its not witty. Using hitler/nazi references is a gin of an uncreative mind usually.

Oh geezus. Give me a break. Does humor now have a price? Have you decided the guidelines for what is or isnt funny? /me thinks it is hillarious. Moore is an idiot and the picture are humorous. If it offends you dont look at it. Im still laughing about it.

Reager
6th April 2003, 08:19 PM
Originally posted by bva


Its funny. Lighten up Fem-Nazi bot.

Ahhh, so this is how you've chosen to respond, unwarranted name-calling! Color me unimpressed (Fem-Nazi! How utterly banal. Have you been listening to those decade-old tapes of Rush again?). Instead of assuming you know one whit about my political opinions, perhaps you could enlighten those of us who don't see the humor in falsely accusing someone of being a Nazi...? Is it funny because you don't like Michael Moore? Or would it still be funny if we replaced Mr. Moore's visage with a more ahh, conservative persona? As a student of humor (and someone with a sneaking suspicion you're simply a liberal-hating ignoramous) I eagerly await your response.

Mike

Denise
6th April 2003, 08:27 PM
True that it's not that funny, but I bet Michael Moore would laugh his bulbous butt cheeks off seeing similar pictures with Bush in them. Just a guess.

Bjorn
6th April 2003, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by bva
Moore is an idiot and the picture are humorous. Deciding what is a fact and what is an opinion? :rolleyes:

Fem-Nazi Have you been reading anything lately that made you use that expression? Please explain. :confused:

Khalid01
6th April 2003, 08:58 PM
I don't get the third pic, since when is being a capitalist AND a 2nd ammendment advocate a bad thing? It may be a bit hypocritical of Mr. Moore, but I thought this was exaggerated rightist propaganda you were playing, Tony. :confused:

corplinx
6th April 2003, 09:02 PM
Originally posted by bva


Oh geezus. Give me a break. Does humor now have a price? Have you decided the guidelines for what is or isnt funny? /me thinks it is hillarious. Moore is an idiot and the picture are humorous. If it offends you dont look at it. Im still laughing about it.

I found the second pic funny. However, I don't find nazi/hitler/facist/binladen associations funny. People overuse them in political "debate" and I think its the most brainless form of mockery.

Troll
6th April 2003, 09:24 PM
Originally posted by mfeldman


I don't think it's remotely funny. No matter what you may think about Michael Moore, there is no evidence suggesting that he hates Jews, is a Nazi, or that he is in bed with Osama Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein. I defy Tony, bva, or anyone else to justify those "photos" as anything other than heinous lies.

Mike

Good for you. I expect to see your comments lamenting AUP, UCE, Wayne and Dr. Chinese when they compare Bush to Hitler as well.

I mean come on, he doesn't have a moustache and Hussein does. Not to mention the whole mass murder thing

Reager
6th April 2003, 09:29 PM
Originally posted by Troll


Good for you. I expect to see your comments lamenting AUP, UCE, Wayne and Dr. Chinese when they compare Bush to Hitler as well.

I don't believe I've ever read any posts by the people you've mentioned. If I do, and they do, and I am so inclined, perhaps I will.

Mike

Denise
6th April 2003, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by mfeldman


I don't believe I've ever read any posts by the people you've mentioned. If I do, and they do, and I am so inclined, perhaps I will.

Mike

And you have been where?:D

Troll
6th April 2003, 09:34 PM
Originally posted by mfeldman


I don't believe I've ever read any posts by the people you've mentioned. If I do, and they do, and I am so inclined, perhaps I will.

Mike

They have. Look for them. And you should, given your pre-disposition to those types of photos in general. defending what you oppose is the ultimate example of free speech.:D

bva
6th April 2003, 09:41 PM
Originally posted by mfeldman


Ahhh, so this is how you've chosen to respond, unwarranted name-calling! Color me unimpressed (Fem-Nazi! How utterly banal. Have you been listening to those decade-old tapes of Rush again?). Instead of assuming you know one whit about my political opinions, perhaps you could enlighten those of us who don't see the humor in falsely accusing someone of being a Nazi...? Is it funny because you don't like Michael Moore? Or would it still be funny if we replaced Mr. Moore's visage with a more ahh, conservative persona? As a student of humor (and someone with a sneaking suspicion you're simply a liberal-hating ignoramous) I eagerly await your response.

Mike

Oh gawd.. Mikey dear mikey.. Whats wrong with Rush? Its funny for a number of reasons. Yes I dont like Michael Moore but I didnt think Bowling for Columbine was bad. I also thought the images of him were just funny. Put the baby wipes down and just try and breathe.

bva
6th April 2003, 09:45 PM
Originally posted by corplinx


I found the second pic funny. However, I don't find nazi/hitler/facist/binladen associations funny. People overuse them in political "debate" and I think its the most brainless form of mockery.

gotcha. I can respect that. I still laughing at it though.

bva
6th April 2003, 09:51 PM
Originally posted by Bjorn
Deciding what is a fact and what is an opinion? :rolleyes:

Have you been reading anything lately that made you use that expression? Please explain. :confused:

Oh I dont have a savvy intellect like you so please dont show me up Professor idgekstein!! :rolleyes:

I made it up. It means NOTHING. It was something ridiculous off the wall remark name that correlates to nothing. You see I knew would have you guys trying to put meaning to it or trying to rip it apart so I said it. Thanks for noticing

Baker
6th April 2003, 09:52 PM
Well I found it hilarious!:D

DavidJames
6th April 2003, 09:53 PM
I thought the Burt and Osama picture was much funnier. This one is more middle school, Beavis and Butthead'ish

Tony
6th April 2003, 09:53 PM
Damn, I didnt think posting these would create such a firestorm. FYI, I did not create these photos, I ran across them surfing the net and thought I would share. Sorry if some of you got worked up into a tizzy.

Tony
6th April 2003, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by corplinx


I found the second pic funny. However, I don't find nazi/hitler/facist/binladen associations funny. People overuse them in political "debate" and I think its the most brainless form of mockery.

You're right. But I think some people took these pix a little too seriously.

Reager
6th April 2003, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by bva


Oh gawd.. Mikey dear mikey.. Whats wrong with Rush? Its funny for a number of reasons. Yes I dont like Michael Moore but I didnt think Bowling for Columbine was bad. I also thought the images of him were just funny. Put the baby wipes down and just try and breathe.

<shrug>

Mike

susheel
6th April 2003, 11:23 PM
Originally posted by Bjorn
Have you been reading anything lately that made you use that expression? Please explain. :confused:

"The Collected Works of JK: Complete and Unabridged"

shecky
7th April 2003, 12:03 AM
Originally posted by corplinx
I'm not big fan of photoshopping someone into pictures with hitler or bin laden. Its not witty. Using hitler/nazi references is a gin of an uncreative mind usually.

I generally agree. Not that it can't be done well, but usually it falls into the "too-over-the-top-to-be-funny" category. Sort of like making a Hitler/nazi comparison in a argument. Hitler/nazi references are just too cheap and easy. Particularly with such a hot button topic. It's one thing to paste Elvis into a KFC ad, another thing to depict G.W. Bush with the Hitler 'do and moustache (I saw this one yesterday).

Originally posted by Tony
FYI, I did not create these photos, I ran across them surfing the net (Emphasis mine.) and thought I would share.

I guess you're kinda making my point. :p

a_unique_person
7th April 2003, 12:08 AM
Originally posted by Denise
True that it's not that funny, but I bet Michael Moore would laugh his bulbous butt cheeks off seeing similar pictures with Bush in them. Just a guess.

I think the humour in politics is in pointing out hypocrisy. Mike Moore has never mentioned the Jews or shown himself to be a fan of Osama. Hence, no humour. The attacks on GWB for cocaine are, in contrast, pointing out hypocrisy. He has never denied it, and is quite happy to continue the 'war on drugs'.

Fade
7th April 2003, 12:55 AM
That's not fair Denise. I don't think Michael Moore thinks Bush is a Nazi, or would think that he's like them.

The fact is, Bush is a cretinous moron with several agendas, and is evil without any sort of links to Hitler. Why make false analogies when there is so much real stuff to criticize?

Anyway, I find those photoshoppings just as hamfisted as those painting Bush as a Nazi.

Jocko
7th April 2003, 06:27 AM
Originally posted by Fade
That's not fair Denise. I don't think Michael Moore thinks Bush is a Nazi, or would think that he's like them.

Of course not. Hitler was elected, and Moore is still stuck on the two-year old non-issue of election problems that are so completely moot he couldn't even market a muckraking film about them anymore.

The fact is, Bush is a cretinous moron with several agendas, and is evil without any sort of links to Hitler. Why make false analogies when there is so much real stuff to criticize?

Ah, the facts at last! Thank you! It seems you and Moore both got hold of the same odd definition of "facts"...

Moore is full of crap (http://www.andrewsullivan.com/main_article.php?artnum=20021208)

Anyway, I find those photoshoppings just as hamfisted as those painting Bush as a Nazi.

I thought they were funny. Wanna post a poll over "what is humor," or just accept that your opinion is NOT one of your "facts"?

Besides, I'll bet you couldn't pull off even this "hamfisted" photoshop stunt.

Rose
7th April 2003, 08:22 AM
Put me down for thinking they're amusing, though not that riproaring funny. It's obvious they're a spoof. There's no resort of explicit violence or gore or(shuddering to think of the word in conjunction with Michael Moore) overtly sexual in them. I can see why it might not appeal to some people, but really, relax. There's plenty of real issues out there that are worth getting upset about and speaking out for or against. And this isn'[t onme of them.

Reager
7th April 2003, 08:47 AM
Originally posted by Rose
Put me down for thinking they're amusing, though not that riproaring funny. It's obvious they're a spoof. There's no resort of explicit violence or gore or(shuddering to think of the word in conjunction with Michael Moore) overtly sexual in them. I can see why it might not appeal to some people, but really, relax. There's plenty of real issues out there that are worth getting upset about and speaking out for or against. And this isn'[t onme of them.

My response was not to make a mountain out of a moorehill (sorry, couldn't resist). I got a bit riled up at the pics because I take issues like anti-semitism, Nazism, and libel very seriously. There are enough *real* racists and terrorists in this world to worry about, without creating them where none exist.

I also genuinely don't see the humor in the pictures. As has been pointed out earlier, the essence of most satire is exposing hypocracy or pretension through irony and wit. Those photos do not reveal any humorous truth about Moore or his views. They're simply ad hominems, unwarranted and false.

Mike

Douglas
7th April 2003, 12:09 PM
Why is anyone wasting their time with this crap? Clumsy photoshops, amusing only in the sense of pondering the intellect of those who do find them funny.

HarryKeogh
7th April 2003, 01:57 PM
i dont find them funny because i find them tasteless. i find them unfunny the same way i find the three stooges unfunny. because theyre just not funny.

i prefer fat jokes.

Reager
7th April 2003, 02:05 PM
Originally posted by HarryKeogh
i dont find them funny because i find them tasteless. i find them unfunny the same way i find the three stooges unfunny. because theyre just not funny.

i prefer fat jokes.


Now don't start knockin' the Three Stooges....! ;)



Mike

Baker
7th April 2003, 03:15 PM
I noticed these same posters complaining about the MM photo’s are some of the same people who find it quite enjoyable to take shots at Bush in many other threads using the same type of humor.
Suddenly its not so funny if its one of your own people.

7th April 2003, 03:27 PM
Originally posted by Baker
I noticed these same posters complaining about the MM photo’s are some of the same people who find it quite enjoyable to take shots at Bush in many other threads using the same type of humor.
Suddenly its not so funny if its one of your own people.

Is there a thread somewhere with pictures that paint GWB in the same fashion? Please point me to 'em, cause I missed out on the sort of humor I find valid and uproarious!

DavidJames
7th April 2003, 03:29 PM
"I noticed these same posters complaining about the MM photo’s are some of the same people who find it quite enjoyable to take shots at Bush in many other threads using the same type of humor."

As one of the posters who didn't think the photo's were funny I will call you on this. Please post some links backing up your claim.

Douglas
7th April 2003, 03:49 PM
I intensely dislike Michael Moore.
The photoshops are uninspired, unsophisticated, unfunny and beyond lameness. I question the intelligence of anyone that finds these genuinely amusing and will judge that person accordingly.

Baker
7th April 2003, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by DavidJames

As one of the posters who didn't think the photo's were funny I will call you on this. Please post some links backing up your claim.

Look in any Bush thread I didn’t mean photo’s of him just the humor was along the same line.
http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15840&highlight=Bush
http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13284&highlight=Bush

DavidJames
7th April 2003, 04:02 PM
Yes it's true that people on this forum have made fun of Bush, but you claimed:

"these same posters complaining about the MM photo’s ".

The threads you posted do not support this claim.

Baker
7th April 2003, 04:08 PM
Sorry I should have pointed it out in my post but no, I wasn’t referring to all of you.

Pyrrho
7th April 2003, 04:08 PM
Photo number 4 is potentially libelous, and the JREF could be held responsible for hosting it.

Baker
7th April 2003, 04:27 PM
Look, I don’t care if this humor is falsely accusing him.
Its just humor I consider his humor far more tasteless as these photo’s.
So therefore, I don’t give a dam sorry to interrupt all of this whining for this poor helpless victim.

Pyrrho
7th April 2003, 04:30 PM
I don't care about Michael Moore. I care about the JREF possibly being held responsible for allowing a libelous image to be posted. The pictures are stupid, like all such pictures. Any talentless idiot can get a cheap laugh that way.

Reager
7th April 2003, 05:33 PM
Originally posted by Baker
Look, I don’t care if this humor is falsely accusing him.
Its just humor I consider his humor far more tasteless as these photo’s.
So therefore, I don’t give a dam sorry to interrupt all of this whining for this poor helpless victim.


So it's alright to falsely accuse someone of views they don't hold and acts they didn't commit, as long as it's somebody you don't care for? Or is it OK to do that to anyone at all? I think you'll find either position rather difficult to defend.

As for the photos, I'm not defending Michael Moore as much as I'm trying to figure out what's so darn funny about the pictures. The best I can figure is that people who find them humorous seem to be laughing because the pictures ridicule Michael Moore, and they don't like Michael Moore. To me, it's like screaming, "Hitler-lover!" at someone who you don't like, even though you're well aware they don't love Hitler. There's no reason to find it funny. Unless I'm missing something.

Mike


Edited to add full disclosure...I happen to believe some of Michael Moore's humor is truly inspired, like the time he staged a tourist "invasion" of a public beach that the residents of an ocean-front town were trying to prevent non-residents from using. Perhaps some of it is tasteless, but there's almost always a legitimate point being made.

Richard G
7th April 2003, 07:14 PM
Funny stuff. Sent them to all my friends.

Baker
7th April 2003, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by mfeldman



So it's alright to falsely accuse someone of views they don't hold and acts they didn't commit, as long as it's somebody you don't care for? Or is it OK to do that to anyone at all? I think you'll find either position rather difficult to defend.

Maybe you missed Richard’s thread on how Michael Moore deliberately misrepresented some actual events to support his agenda.

http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16944
Falsely accusing someone is right up his ally.



As for the photos, I'm not defending Michael Moore as much as I'm trying to figure out what's so darn funny about the pictures. The best I can figure is that people who find them humorous seem to be laughing because the pictures ridicule Michael Moore, and they don't like Michael Moore. To me, it's like screaming, "Hitler-lover!" at someone who you don't like, even though you're well aware they don't love Hitler. There's no reason to find it funny. Unless I'm missing something.

Yes they ridicule him as he has done many times to those who doesn’t fit his view’s are support his agenda.

Baker
7th April 2003, 07:32 PM
Originally posted by Richard G
Funny stuff. Sent them to all my friends.

Same here!:D

bva
7th April 2003, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by pyrrho2000
I don't care about Michael Moore. I care about the JREF possibly being held responsible for allowing a libelous image to be posted. The pictures are stupid, like all such pictures. Any talentless idiot can get a cheap laugh that way.

your nuts.

bva
7th April 2003, 07:34 PM
Originally posted by Richard G
Funny stuff. Sent them to all my friends.

Im still laughing at them. :D

Roadtoad
7th April 2003, 07:43 PM
I don't think people are nuts for having concerns regarding the possibility of libel, or a libel suit. The pictures are good for a quick giggle at best, but that's about it. I get this sort of thing from my creepy brother-in-law, who thinks this sort of thing is funny as hell. (He also gets a kick out of calling my wife and kids childish names, like calling my wife, Peggy, "Piggy...") I agree: Moore is is a clod, and a propagandist; he's hamfisted and crude, with little to offer an intelligent debate.

But, having said that, there's the real potential for trouble. Sorry, guys: gotta call it as I see it. Moore is still a private citizen (even if he is a celeb), unlike Bush, who's a public official. There's a serious question about fair comment. I'm not sure what the libel laws are like regarding the Internet, but my suspicion is that it's not very different at all. And you ought to consider what a guy like Moore would do if he saw the photoshop work. He takes himself extremely seriously; I'd bet he'd be on the phone to a lawyer inside of ten minutes.

Just a thought, all. I could be completely wrong, so take it in that spirit.

Questioninggeller
7th April 2003, 08:07 PM
That is very upsetting... Why do people who aren't political/corporate whores not like Moore?

Reager
7th April 2003, 08:10 PM
Originally posted by Baker


Maybe you missed Richard’s thread on how Michael Moore deliberately misrepresented some actual events to support his agenda.

http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16944
Falsely accusing someone is right up his ally.

Yes they ridicule him as he has done many times to those who doesn’t fit his view’s are support his agenda.

Didn't your parents ever teach you that two wrongs don't make a right?


Mike

Fade
7th April 2003, 09:17 PM
Of course not. Hitler was elected, and Moore is still stuck on the two-year old non-issue of election problems that are so completely moot he couldn't even market a muckraking film about them anymore.

What does this have to do with anything? Have you even seen Bowling for Columbine? Did you know that I think very little of the flim, and see it as nothing more than a biased piece of garbage? Perhaps you like to screech at people without learning the facts?

Ah, the facts at last! Thank you! It seems you and Moore both got hold of the same odd definition of "facts"...

You don't combat biased garbage with more biased garbage.

Also, will you please point out the facts that I have listed? Is my opinion of Bush now held as a fact?

I thought they were funny.

Good for you. I haven't said whether I thought whether they were funny or not.

Wanna post a poll over "what is humor," or just accept that your opinion is NOT one of your "facts"?

What on earth does this mean?

Besides, I'll bet you couldn't pull off even this "hamfisted" photoshop stunt.

Do you have any idea how easy it is to cut and paste images into other images? These are hamfisted. They are blunt and easy.