A not-so-trivial trivia question

[shanek]

Okay, let's see if anyone can guess who made the following statement and when. It should spark an interesting discussion. ;)

People of Baghdad, our armies do not come into your cities and lands as conquerors or enemies, but as liberators. Remember for 26 generations you have suffered under strange tyrants who have ever endeavoured to set one Arab house against another in order that they might profit by your dissensions. This policy is abhorrent...for there can be neither peace nor prosperity where there is enmity or misgovernment.

[Ian Osborne]

Originally posted by shanek
Okay, let's see if anyone can guess who made the following statement and when. It should spark an interesting discussion. ;)

General F S Maude, Commander of British invading forces in Iraq, 1917.

[shanek]

Originally posted by Ian Osborne
General F S Maude, Commander of British invading forces in Iraq, 1917.

Sorry for taking so long to get back, I was double-checcking my source, which said Stanley Maude. Maybe it's F. Stanley Maude?

Anyway, doesn't anyone else here think it's interesting that Bush is using the same rhetoric used by the British in 1917?

A few months later, Gen Allenby "liberated" Palestine. Then France "liberated" Syria and Lebanon. This went on and on and on.

Every time someone came in to "liberate" a country in the Middle East, things got worse. If this actually worked, shouldn't that area be the freest place on Earth now?

Maybe this time it will be different. Maybe this time we'll learn from history and get it right. But my prediction is that this attempt will suffer and fail as all the rest before it has.

We shall see.

[Marquis de Carabas]

Frederick Stanley Maude :)

[Questioninggeller]

What's that from? -I'd like to check it out.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Originally posted by shanek


Sorry for taking so long to get back, I was double-checcking my source, which said Stanley Maude. Maybe it's F. Stanley Maude?

Anyway, doesn't anyone else here think it's interesting that Bush is using the same rhetoric used by the British in 1917?

A few months later, Gen Allenby "liberated" Palestine. Then France "liberated" Syria and Lebanon. This went on and on and on.

Every time someone came in to "liberate" a country in the Middle East, things got worse. If this actually worked, shouldn't that area be the freest place on Earth now?

Maybe this time it will be different. Maybe this time we'll learn from history and get it right. But my prediction is that this attempt will suffer and fail as all the rest before it has.

We shall see.

Yeah, but this time it's different!!

[Ian Osborne]

Originally posted by Questioninggeller
What's that from? -I'd like to check it out.

There's a couple of links about Maude here (http://www.lib.byu.edu/~rdh/wwi/bio/m/maude.html) and here (http://www.firstworldwar.com/bio/maude.htm) .

I believe he was commonly known as Stanley, Shane, but officially as Sir Frederick. After he got his knighthood, anyway... ;)

[Questioninggeller]

Originally posted by Ian Osborne


There's a couple of links about Maude here (http://www.lib.byu.edu/~rdh/wwi/bio/m/maude.html) and here (http://www.firstworldwar.com/bio/maude.htm) .

I believe he was commonly known as Stanley, Shane, but officially as Sir Frederick. After he got his knighthood, anyway... ;)

Thanks :)