WAR, CRAPPY WEATHER, SARS, TAXES! ENOUGH!

[kourama]

<RANT>

I am really sick of it all!

FED UP!

We've had the coldest winter I can remember, two solid days of ice storm, and yesterday and today more SNOW!

As I scraped the f*cking ice from my f*cking windows this morning I nearly f*cking lost it.

I just want a single WARM day in frickin' APRIL! JUST ONE!

That's all I'm asking for, and all of this other stuff would be tolerable.

Everything sucks.

</RANT>

Thanks, I just needed to share that. :)

[renata]

Originally posted by kourama
<RANT>

I am really sick of it all!

FED UP!

We've had the coldest winter I can remember, two solid days of ice storm, and yesterday and today more SNOW!

As I scraped the f*cking ice from my f*cking windows this morning I nearly f*cking lost it.

I just want a single WARM day in frickin' APRIL! JUST ONE!

That's all I'm asking for, and all of this other stuff would be tolerable.

Everything sucks.

</RANT>

Thanks, I just needed to share that. :)


I am afraid I do not know what you mean, kourama.


Today: Lots of sunshine. High 86F. Winds ESE at 5 to 10 mph.
Tonight: Mostly clear. Low 54F. Winds N at 5 to 10 mph.
Tomorrow: Partly cloudy. High 83F. Winds ESE at 5 to 10 mph.
Tomorrow night: Partly cloudy. Low 54F. Winds N at 5 to 10 mph.
Thursday: Partial sunshine. Highs in the upper 70s and lows in the low 50s.
Friday: Partly cloudy. Highs in the low 70s and lows in the low 50s.
Saturday: Times of sun and clouds. Highs in the low 70s and lows in the low 50s.



:p


Edited to add- upon reflection, this post will probably make you madder..:)

[Mel]

kourama, if it makes you feel any better it's been awful on Long Island also. We had snow all day yesterday & the cars were covered in ice this morning.

This has been one too long, too cold, too snowy winter.

[Jedi Knight]

Hey, where is all the "mystical" global warming?

JK

[DanishDynamite]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight
Hey, where is all the "mystical" global warming?

JK I know you are allergic to facts, JK, but the one thing that meteoroligists can agree on is that it is generally getting warmer. The disagreement concerns why it's getting warmer.

Kourama, you have my sympathy. Us Northerners have to stick together. :)

[kourama]

Kourama, you have my sympathy. Us Northerners have to stick together.

kourama, if it makes you feel any better it's been awful on Long Island also. We had snow all day yesterday & the cars were covered in ice this morning.

Hey, where is all the "mystical" global warming?


Wow, I really do feel better.

Thanks guys.


Edited to add- upon reflection, this post will probably make you madder.


OK, I'm envious. CA? Where in CA, in the smog-bowl? :D

[renata]

Originally posted by kourama


Wow, I really do feel better.

Thanks guys.



OK, I'm envious. CA? Where in CA, in the smog-bowl? :D

Hey, I still *cough* have use *cough* of 2/3 of my left lung! I am sure I will die of skin cancer way before the lungs give out anyway :)

(The dreaded San Fernando Valley. Home of the highest density of porn stores and donut shops in the nation, as well as the center of the porn filmmaking.)

[Baggle]

Tonight Apr 08 Clear 46°

Wed Apr 09 Partly Cloudy 78°/46°

Thu Apr 10 Partly Cloudy 76°/44°

Fri Apr 11 Partly Cloudy 74°/43°

Sat Apr 12 Showers 60°/41°

Sun Apr 13 Showers 60°/40°

Ya. Crappy weather. I can't remember the last time April had so much rain. Damn those showers and how cold it gets during the rain! 60 degrees. Brrr! ;)

-Baggle

[DanishDynamite]

Originally posted by Baggle
Tonight Apr 08 Clear 46°

Wed Apr 09 Partly Cloudy 78°/46°

Thu Apr 10 Partly Cloudy 76°/44°

Fri Apr 11 Partly Cloudy 74°/43°

Sat Apr 12 Showers 60°/41°

Sun Apr 13 Showers 60°/40°

Ya. Crappy weather. I can't remember the last time April had so much rain. Damn those showers and how cold it gets during the rain! 60 degrees. Brrr! ;)

-Baggle :eek: If the second temperature mentioned is Celsius, I presume you are kidding, my friend.

46°C would more or less cook your goose.

The formula is: Celsius = (Fahrenheit - 32)*5/9.

[jj]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight
Hey, where is all the "mystical" global warming?

JK

Perhaps you should study up on what global warming is predicted to do to the northeast part of the USA, Jedi.

Now, I'm not saying that there is concrete evidence, but your incisive ignorance, as usual, manages to get things completely backwards.

[Bearguin]

We've had a real warm, dry winter in my neck of the woods. And I'm further north than you, kourama. Only real problem is not enough snow and our lakes are going to be pretty empty this year. Gonna hurt the fishing some.

So, I hear ya, but as you live in Toronto, I don't care ;)

[Baggle]

Naw, DD. It never reaches 46c here. Highest it ever gets to is about 41c or so ;)

That's another couple months away, though.

-Baggle

[Andonyx]

I'm fed up as well. I got my Motorcycle out of storage the third weekend in March when it was 68. They predicted the whole next week in high 50s and 60s, so I figured if the temps dropped again, it would only be for a few days, and then spring.

I was wrong.

On top of it my bike had problems, and it ended up spending the warm weather in the shop. Now it works and it's sitting under a cover and 3 inches of snow.

That's it!

I'm going to ride my bike to The Iraqi desert where at least it's warm, single handedly put a peaceful end to the war, while still managing to liberate the Iraqi people, and push a flat tax bill through congress as a result of my ensuing notoriety.

[kourama]

Originally posted by Andonyx
I'm fed up as well. I got my Motorcycle out of storage the third weekend in March when it was 68. They predicted the whole next week in high 50s and 60s, so I figured if the temps dropped again, it would only be for a few days, and then spring.

I was wrong.

On top of it my bike had problems, and it ended up spending the warm weather in the shop. Now it works and it's sitting under a cover and 3 inches of snow.

That's it!

I'm going to ride my bike to The Iraqi desert where at least it's warm, single handedly put a peaceful end to the war, while still managing to liberate the Iraqi people, and push a flat tax bill through congress as a result of my ensuing notoriety.


Ugh, I gave up bike riding a couple of years ago after I turned my big toe knuckle out 90 degrees. ouch.

I was once caught in one of our semi-famous flash snowstorms. Left work, and it was about 5 degrees and sunny, in about 2o minutes it was -3, dark and snowy. I was sliding on an inch of snow and finally went down 5 blocks from the house. Limped home.

(The dreaded San Fernando Valley. Home of the highest density of porn stores and donut shops in the nation, as well as the center of the porn filmmaking.)

Y'know the dragnet show they exumed and dusted off? Sunday's episode was about a porn actress and all the good guys talked about porn as "garbage", "filth" etc.

That kind of bugged me. I can understand if some characters had this attitude, but the show was clearly preaching.

Or maybe it was seeing Al Bundy bad-mouth porn that bothered me...I dunno.

[Andonyx]

Originally posted by kourama



Ugh, I gave up bike riding a couple of years ago after I turned my big toe knuckle out 90 degrees. ouch.



Obviously, as you can see from my above post, I have no firm grasp of my own mortality.

I can't imagine riding a bike in Toronto either. My low ceiling is 30 degrees. I'm not gonna splash out the cash for the electric stuff, and 30 degrees and 50MPH wind chill is about as cold as I can take it.

Wait, you were talking celsius weren't you.

Well, I don't have that avatar for nothing.

[Shane Costello]

Originally posted by DanishDynamite:
I know you are allergic to facts, JK, but the one thing that meteoroligists can agree on is that it is generally getting warmer. The disagreement concerns why it's getting warmer.

In fairness to JK he's not too far of the money on this. All it takes is a prolonged spell of mild winter weather for feature articles to appear bemoaning global warming induced by mankind, and invariably putting the boot into GWB for rejecting the Kyoto protocol (people seem to be unaware of the unanimous vote against in the senate). No one seems to suggest that "global warming" is more hype than anything else during unseasonably cold weather, though. And it wasn't long ago that the consensus was that global cooling was imminent.

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by Shane Costello
In fairness to JK he's not too far of the money on this. All it takes is a prolonged spell of mild winter weather for feature articles to appear bemoaning global warming induced by mankind, and invariably putting the boot into GWB for rejecting the Kyoto protocol (people seem to be unaware of the unanimous vote against in the senate).

There is a great difference between what the media say and what scientists say. The planet is getting warmer: We know this, not just from weather patterns, but also from what we find in the geological strata, tree rings, animal migration patterns, glacier samplings, etc.

There are a lot of people with a lot of opinions, but as always, we have to start with the facts.

Originally posted by Shane Costello
And it wasn't long ago that the consensus was that global cooling was imminent.

It was? When was this? The closest I can think of was a nuclear winter, but I trust you have something else in mind?

Perhaps even some data? :)

[Shane Costello]

Originally posted by CF Larsen
There is a great difference between what the media say and what scientists say. The planet is getting warmer: We know this, not just from weather patterns, but also from what we find in the geological strata, tree rings, animal migration patterns, glacier samplings, etc.

True, but very often the media presents some very dubious assertions as scientifically established fact.

It was? When was this? The closest I can think of was a nuclear winter, but I trust you have something else in mind?

A bit before my time, and probably yours.
www.fumento.com/pish.html

"It is 12,500 years since the last ice age ended, which means the next one is long overdue. When the ice comes, most of northern America, Britain, and northern Europe will disappear under the glaciers.... The right conditions can arise within a single decade. – Fred Hoyle, Ice: The Ultimate Human Catastrophe, (Continuum Publishing, 1981), inside jacket.

... the atmosphere has been growing gradually cooler for the past three decades. The trend shows no indication of reversing. – Time, June 24, 1974

... the overall cooling trend is unmistakable and in coming years it will profoundly affect agriculture, geopolitics and human survival worldwide. – Dr. Reid Bryson, People, November 24, 1980

For years now, climatologists have foreseen trend toward colder weather – long range, to be sure but a trend as inevitable as death.... According to [one] theory, all it would take is a single cold summer to plunge the earth into a sudden apocalypse of ice. – Rolling Stone, May 12, 1983

The solution is to warm up the ocean... – Fred Hoyle"[/QUOTE]

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by Shane Costello
True, but very often the media presents some very dubious assertions as scientifically established fact.

The media does not make the weather either cooler or warmer. It doesn't matter how the media presents the weather, it doesn't get colder, just because your weatherman tells you to.

Originally posted by Shane Costello
A bit before my time, and probably yours.

Not really. :)

Originally posted by Shane Costello
www.fumento.com/pish.html

Let's take a look at those sources:

Originally posted by Shane Costello
"It is 12,500 years since the last ice age ended, which means the next one is long overdue. When the ice comes, most of northern America, Britain, and northern Europe will disappear under the glaciers.... The right conditions can arise within a single decade. – Fred Hoyle, Ice: The Ultimate Human Catastrophe, (Continuum Publishing, 1981), inside jacket.

OK, great. We all know that. But Hoyle doesn't say anything about how it actually goes (or even went). He doesn't talk about environmental changes caused by pollution, but the simple fact that we get ice ages from time to time.

Originally posted by Shane Costello
... the atmosphere has been growing gradually cooler for the past three decades. The trend shows no indication of reversing. – Time, June 24, 1974

Data, please? Time has been wrong before.

Originally posted by Shane Costello
... the overall cooling trend is unmistakable and in coming years it will profoundly affect agriculture, geopolitics and human survival worldwide. – Dr. Reid Bryson, People, November 24, 1980

You are quoting People Magazine??

Originally posted by Shane Costello
For years now, climatologists have foreseen trend toward colder weather – long range, to be sure but a trend as inevitable as death.... According to [one] theory, all it would take is a single cold summer to plunge the earth into a sudden apocalypse of ice. – Rolling Stone, May 12, 1983

Rolling Stone does have some good non-music articles from time to time, but I don't consider it a very good source for environmental issues.

Originally posted by Shane Costello
The solution is to warm up the ocean... – Fred Hoyle"

Yes, the solution to avoid global cooling caused by a new ice age. Not pollution.

Try again.

[Shane Costello]

Originally posted by CF Larsen:
The media does not make the weather either cooler or warmer. It doesn't matter how the media presents the weather, it doesn't get colder, just because your weatherman tells you to.

Precisely. But the media can and does help the spread of fallacies. There is a dearth of critical thinking in the general population. People will accept an awful lot they see, hear and read at face value. Everyone knows about the curse of King Tut. Most people probably believe it. But how many people are aware of the fact that mummified remains and sarcophogi are a haven for microbes, and that the early investigators took no recautions against this or were largely unaware of the danger posed by these microbes. How often do we hear or read that Howard Carter, one of the first people to enter the tomb, lived to a ripe old age?

OK, great. We all know that. But Hoyle doesn't say anything about how it actually goes (or even went). He doesn't talk about environmental changes caused by pollution, but the simple fact that we get ice ages from time to time.

Data, please? Time has been wrong before.

You are quoting People Magazine??

Rolling Stone does have some good non-music articles from time to time, but I don't consider it a very good source for environmental issues.

Yes, the solution to avoid global cooling caused by a new ice age. Not pollution.

Try again.

You've completely missed the point I was trying to make. My point isn't that there was credible research to suggest global cooling was occuring or imminent, rather that there was a perception that it was occuring. Since when did a fad need a sound scientific basis?