A prediction for the heck of it

[CptColumbo]

I don't claim to have any psychic or precognative ability, nor do I wish to participate in the JREF challenge (because I don't want to waste their time). However, I wanted to use a weird dream I had to make a prediction that something of monumental importance is going to happen in a US national park, on either July 3rd or November 3rd of 2005. I base this prediction on the events that I saw in the dream. I was in my office, which had for some reason merged with an office that had a sign that said "Forrest Service," when I noticed everyone was crowding around the window. I looked back down at what I was writing at my desk and saw I had written a date that was either 7-3-05 or 11-3-05. Through a window on anothr wall I could see that there is a forrest outside, it was mountainous and covered in evergreen trees. I couldn't seem to get around the other people to see what was going on out the other window that had such importance. BTW, there are no windows where my desk is, so that alone was weird. I sw an US flag in the corner of the reception area for the the "Forrest Service," so I assume that is where it is. Other details must have faded after I woke up, because I do remember it being a very vivid dream. I don't expect anything will happen, but I wanted to record it ahead of time, because it would be really cool if something happened.

BTW the next night I dreamed that a group of Confederate sympathizers from the 1860's (two men, and one woman) attempted to hijack Air Force One in the year 2022. I'm reasonably sure this won't happen, and don't plan on waiting to find out. This however would also be cool if it really happened.

Thought I'd give it a shot. If you live near a National Park keep an eye out, less than two months to go for the first day. How many precogs would give you a date...or two?

[-42-]

Scientists agree with your dream.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7765063/


Now lets say it meets your unspecified criteria of "monumental importance" sometime between now and 10 years from now. That's 3652 days.

You named 2 days so have a 2:3652 chance of a hit. Well. That's if you specified yellowstone inparticular and specified volcanic activity of some type.

How many parks are there and what exactly qualifies as "monumental importance"?

+ Eruption, destroying the entire park?
+ Meteor, destroying the entire park?
+ A mayor visits there and cuts a ribbon for a new gift shop?
+ A nuclear missle from North Korea hitting a park?
+ A bear eating someone in a park?
+ A snake biting someone important?

[7th sextile]

Wouldn't it have to involve a monument?

[Squidd]

And I had a dream a while back that I was trying to kill a vampire with an invisible-taco gun.

Yes, that would be a gun that fires invisible tacos.

No, I don't know why a vampire would be affected by invisible tacos.

And no, I don't put much stock in the contents of my dreams.

[Beady]

Originally posted by CptColumbo
However, I wanted to use a weird dream I had to make a prediction that something of monumental importance is going to happen in a US national park, on either July 3rd or November 3rd of 2005.

You don't suppose that seeing the commercials for that show (or maybe you saw the show, itself?) where Yellowstone erupts might have something to do with it?

BTW, as has been pointed out, your prediction is hopelessly vague. Here's one that is far more specific: I predict that at 2:14 AM, EDT, May 25, 2005 (according to the Gregorian calendar), absolutely nothing of national importance will occur in my kitchen.

[Hitch]

Can we be sure the date wasn't March seventh or March eleventh? The "Monumental Event" might have already happened and we just didn't notice.

Something to think about...

[CptColumbo]

Originally posted by Beady
You don't suppose that seeing the commercials for that show (or maybe you saw the show, itself?) where Yellowstone erupts might have something to do with it?

BTW, as has been pointed out, your prediction is hopelessly vague. Here's one that is far more specific: I predict that at 2:14 AM, EDT, May 25, 2005 (according to the Gregorian calendar), absolutely nothing of national importance will occur in my kitchen.

I'm sorry, I don't know what commercial you're talking about. Seriously, I didn't hear anything about Yellowstone. I'm not sure I know where Yellostone is, I think it's in Montana somewhere. I haven't been in a national park for 20 years, and that was Lake of the Woods.

[Beady]

Originally posted by CptColumbo
I'm sorry, I don't know what commercial you're talking about. Seriously, I didn't hear anything about Yellowstone. I'm not sure I know where Yellostone is, I think it's in Montana somewhere. I haven't been in a national park for 20 years, and that was Lake of the Woods.

The commercials ran within the last month. If you've got cable, you saw them, even though they may not have registered on your conscious. Myself, ever since I discovered I put money in Art Bell's pocket when I saw The Day After(?) on Pay-per-View, I've avoided those movies like the plague.

[CptColumbo]

I don't watch much television lately, I'm trying to catch up on my DVD viewing, and the only cable channel I watch with regularity is Cartoon Network for Adult Swim. I still might have seen it, but I don't remember.

[CptColumbo]

I do go on the Internet alot, so maybe there was something in one of the side flashy things. If there was, I sure don't remember it.

[Squidd]

Nobody wants to question my invisible-taco gun?

Maybe I should've mentioned a date.

[melba]

Originally posted by Squidd
Nobody wants to question my invisible-taco gun?

Maybe I should've mentioned a date.

Ok, I'll take the bait.

Does it come with salsa?

[CptColumbo]

Originally posted by Squidd
Nobody wants to question my invisible-taco gun?

Maybe I should've mentioned a date.

I don't question it, for I do not fear it.

[Winny]

Originally posted by Squidd
Nobody wants to question my invisible-taco gun?

Maybe I should've mentioned a date. Date tacos. mmmm.....

Invisible date tacos!! mmmmmm....

[Darat]

Anything happened that matched the opening post's prediction... ?

[Beady]

Originally posted by Darat
Anything happened that matched the opening post's prediction... ?

Not that I'm aware of. Now we have to live in mortal fear of early November.

[SmooveK]

This is my first post, after a long time of following the JREF and lurking in the forums. I just had to post a question to help me understand the way that the original poster thinks.

This isn't cynical sarcasm, but how did you make the connection that something you saw in a dream must have something to do with an event outside your brain? Was it especially vivid, or did you feel compelled in some way?

Strange and largely unexplainable dreams happen often, often the same one repeatedly. Honestly, what makes you feel that you or your dreams are somehow special in some way?

Also, in a bit of possibly too-harsh criticism, if you used quotation marks literally, you should look for the national park that has "forest" misspelled. In less-harsh aid, if you CAN find a sign like this, it would narrow the options greatly and also provide a bit more reason to find accuracy in your vision.

[Beady]

Originally posted by SmooveK
This isn't cynical sarcasm, but how did you make the connection that something you saw in a dream must have something to do with an event outside your brain?

This isn't hard to understand. One of my favorite games is trying to analyze the dreams I remember having. It's usually not that difficult to draw a connection between what's been happening in my life and what happens in the dream. Of course, I attach absolutely no significance to my dreams, other than to acknowledge that my brain is somehow, for some reason, processing data obtained while I was awake. To the best of my knowledge, I've never solved a real-life problem in my sleep; it's usually more of a replay, with some rather bizzarre twists and turns.

[SmooveK]

Originally posted by Beady
This isn't hard to understand. One of my favorite games is trying to analyze the dreams I remember having. It's usually not that difficult to draw a connection between what's been happening in my life and what happens in the dream. Of course, I attach absolutely no significance to my dreams, other than to acknowledge that my brain is somehow, for some reason, processing data obtained while I was awake. To the best of my knowledge, I've never solved a real-life problem in my sleep; it's usually more of a replay, with some rather bizzarre twists and turns.

You're right, and I'm off to a good start to have my inconsistencies in language checked. :)

I meant the connections between your brain and incidents with which you have no connection (as in events your brain does not experience through sensory perception). As in, imagery and dream experience based on things not perceived while awake.

I myself have no recollection of my dreams and am jealous of you for yours. It also makes me extra confused as to how someone could interpret them as predicting the future, as I don't even know what dreams "feel" like.

[CptColumbo]

Originally posted by SmooveK
This is my first post, after a long time of following the JREF and lurking in the forums. I just had to post a question to help me understand the way that the original poster thinks.

This isn't cynical sarcasm, but how did you make the connection that something you saw in a dream must have something to do with an event outside your brain? Was it especially vivid, or did you feel compelled in some way?

Strange and largely unexplainable dreams happen often, often the same one repeatedly. Honestly, what makes you feel that you or your dreams are somehow special in some way?

Also, in a bit of possibly too-harsh criticism, if you used quotation marks literally, you should look for the national park that has "forest" misspelled. In less-harsh aid, if you CAN find a sign like this, it would narrow the options greatly and also provide a bit more reason to find accuracy in your vision.

I made the prediction for the heck of it. I don't give any more significance to my dreams than most people. This one simply had dates, and I thought it would be a cool experiment. What better place to record a prediction then here? If I simply wrote it down in my journal, and it came true, people would say I wrote it in after the fact.

I imagine the sign was spelled that way because that is how I spell forest. If it was spelled correctly, then I would get worried. I have become a slave to my spell-checker.

BTW I actually forgot about this, until I saw it was near the top of the forum again.

[SmooveK]

Originally posted by CptColumbo
I made the prediction for the heck of it. I don't give any more significance to my dreams than most people. This one simply had dates, and I thought it would be a cool experiment. What better place to record a prediction then here? If I simply wrote it down in my journal, and it came true, people would say I wrote it in after the fact.

I imagine the sign was spelled that way because that is how I spell forest. If it was spelled correctly, then I would get worried. I have become a slave to my spell-checker.

BTW I actually forgot about this, until I saw it was near the top of the forum again.

From the original post, your seriousness was a bit ambiguous. Sorry if I came off a bit harsh. :) Your reasoning is reasonable.

[Octothorpe]

Hmm... the U.S. Forest Service manages National Forests, not National Parks. Wouldn't want people looking for momentous events in the wrong place!

[Beady]

Originally posted by SmooveK
I myself have no recollection of my dreams and am jealous of you for yours.

I've got several extra; would you like a few of mine? ;)

It also makes me extra confused as to how someone could interpret them as predicting the future, as I don't even know what dreams "feel" like.

I can understand how a primitive would think there was something magical to them, but I'm stumped how an educated person could fall into that way of thinking.

Well, maybe I can. I've got a book of quotations in the bathroom, and one of them (I forget by whom) runs, "The more unpredictable life becomes, the more we rely on predictions."

[wastepanel]

Originally posted by Squidd
Nobody wants to question my invisible-taco gun?

Maybe I should've mentioned a date.


I have a question about the invisible-taco gun. If it shoots invisible tacos, how do you know they are tacos? I bet a burito would feel the same as a taco if you were hit with one from a gun. I mean, all mexican food is basically a tortilla with meat, cheese, and vegetables anyways. So, if you can't see the "invisible tacos" that are being shot, how do you know they are what they are...

[Squidd]

Originally posted by wastepanel
I have a question about the invisible-taco gun. If it shoots invisible tacos, how do you know they are tacos? I bet a burito would feel the same as a taco if you were hit with one from a gun. I mean, all mexican food is basically a tortilla with meat, cheese, and vegetables anyways. So, if you can't see the "invisible tacos" that are being shot, how do you know they are what they are... Because they proved to be effective against the vampires, and everyone knows vampires are impervious to invisible burritos.

I mean, sheesh. Obviously.


Actually, it's funny you should ask this--I once pelted a friend with pseudo-Mexican delicacies from Taco Bell, as part of a film he was making for his Spanish class. We weren't using a gun, just throwing them by hand, but he could, in fact, tell the difference between the various items being flung. The Burrito Supreme, in particular, was much more solid than we had anticipated, and it apparently hurt like hell.

He got an A, though.

[wastepanel]

I stand corrected then. I know longer doubt the power of the invisible taco gun. Although, I have to ask this: What are the key ingrediants in the invisible tacos that make vampires fear them and die when shot? I may have to try to build one myself...

[Squidd]

You make 'em just like regular tacos, only invisible.

I would explain why this affects vampires, but I'd need to use a lot of very large words that probably don't even exist, as well as a series of complex equations in a field of mathematics so ground-breaking that it hasn't been invented yet. So, y'know, just trust me on this one.

[wastepanel]

Sounds like you're ready for the $1 million challenge then...

Thanks for entertaining this newbie! That was the funniest comment I ever read on a forum in a long time.

[SmooveK]

Originally posted by wastepanel
I mean, all mexican food is basically a tortilla with meat, cheese, and vegetables anyways.

Jim Gaffigan!

He's why I never eat Hot Pockets.

[wastepanel]

Originally posted by SmooveK
Jim Gaffigan!

He's why I never eat Hot Pockets.


He's also the reason I yell "I don't care what you are. You get a job and support your kids" to manatees (sea cows) at the zoo. Nice catch.

[CptColumbo]

BTW did anything happen? I almost totally forgot about this.

[AnnonUSA]

I don't claim to have any psychic or precognative ability, nor do I wish to participate in the JREF challenge (because I don't want to waste their time). However, I wanted to use a weird dream I had to make a prediction that something of monumental importance is going to happen in a US national park, on either July 3rd or November 3rd of 2005. I base this prediction on the events that I saw in the dream. I was in my office, which had for some reason merged with an office that had a sign that said "Forrest Service," when I noticed everyone was crowding around the window. I looked back down at what I was writing at my desk and saw I had written a date that was either 7-3-05 or 11-3-05. Through a window on anothr wall I could see that there is a forrest outside, it was mountainous and covered in evergreen trees. I couldn't seem to get around the other people to see what was going on out the other window that had such importance. BTW, there are no windows where my desk is, so that alone was weird. I sw an US flag in the corner of the reception area for the the "Forrest Service," so I assume that is where it is. Other details must have faded after I woke up, because I do remember it being a very vivid dream. I don't expect anything will happen, but I wanted to record it ahead of time, because it would be really cool if something happened.

BTW the next night I dreamed that a group of Confederate sympathizers from the 1860's (two men, and one woman) attempted to hijack Air Force One in the year 2022. I'm reasonably sure this won't happen, and don't plan on waiting to find out. This however would also be cool if it really happened.

Thought I'd give it a shot. If you live near a National Park keep an eye out, less than two months to go for the first day. How many precogs would give you a date...or two?


My advice - stop eating spicy food before bedtime.

[HeyLeroy]

Especially invisible tacos and date-squares.

[CptColumbo]

My advice - stop eating spicy food before bedtime.

But they're so good and spicy.

[HeyLeroy]

Date squares?

[KnotKnitWit]

I've got several extra; would you like a few of mine? ;)

[B]

(snip by KnotKnitWit)

Me too. I no longer remember what I dream but I used to have a couple of recurring ones that would certainly be more worth watching than HBO. (Hey! What isn't?)

One is a charming combination of boredom and terror where the entire dream consists of hanging in a tree being wrapped in a cocoon by a giant caterpillar. Round and round and round and... Higher and higher and higher and... I'd be happy to let CptColumbo have that one, just in case it wants to come back. No charge.

The other one is more complex so I'd have to put a price tag on it. The dream, itself, is not recurring but the location of the dream certainly is. It's a big, old-fashioned, sprawling brick building that serves as a school, library, government office complex...etc. The entire dream is just about getting out of the stupid place but, since I always do escape, I'll have to put a premium on this one.

Do you think he has Visa? Or PayPal?