Dr. Vendyl "Indiana" Jones closes in on the Ark of the Covenant

[shecky]

Known and secret Kabbalists have granted permission for Jones to recover the Lost Ark of the Covenant (http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=82226) by August 14.

The famed archaeologist, the inspiration for the “Indiana Jones� movie series, has spent most of his life searching for the Ark of the Covenant. The ark was the resting place of the Ten Commandments, given to the Jewish people at Mount Sinai, and was hidden just before the destruction of the First Temple.

The Talmud says the Ark is hidden in a secret passage under the Temple Mount. Jones says that the tunnel actually continues 18 miles southward, and that the Ark was brought through the tunnel to its current resting place in the Judean Desert.

And just in time, too. We'll be able to get BinLaden on no time with the Ark behind our army.

[TeaBag420]

Originally posted by shecky
Known and secret Kabbalists have granted permission for Jones to recover the Lost Ark of the Covenant (http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=82226) by August 14.



And just in time, too. We'll be able to get BinLaden on no time with the Ark behind our army.

"Known and secret Kabbalists"

Interesting play on words.

What is your point, besides "yeah, you go enjoy having sex with the cheerleader while we're alphabetizing tapes in the A-V Lab!"?

n.b. the "i" key is above the "k", and the "o" key is above the "l".

"BinLaden on no time"

[Kopji]

This thread will probably be long buried by then. If any actual treasure were found from the Copper Scroll it would be pretty big news. (Finding some incense in a temple seems to fall a little short of being treasure.)

From the article, the translation is given as this:

“In the copper scroll, the first five lines say, 'In the desolations of the Valley of Achur, in the opening under the ascent, which is a mountain facing eastward, covered by forty placed boulders – here is a tabernacle and all the golden fixtures,'� Jones says.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=82226

No mention is made of the extreme controversy around the Copper Scroll translations though:

The Jerusalem team’s translation came out in 1962, entitled ‘Les “Petites Grottes� de Qumran, in the Discoveries in the Judaean Desert series. Although it is the ‘official’ version there is no accepted ‘definitive’ translation of the Copper Scroll to date, and all of the numerous editions published have many significant variants.
http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/articles/Unfolding%20the%20Secrets%20of%20the%20Copper%20Sc roll%20at%20Qumran.html


That's because Jones is kind of a nut.
As a sample of the variation, below is a more traditional translation:

Column I
In the ruin of Horebbah[1] which is in the valley of Achor, under the steps heading eastward about forty feet: lies a chest of silver that weighs seventeen talents (yard stick).KEN [2] In the tomb of the third section of stones there is one hundred gold bars. Nine hundred talents[3] are concealed by sediment towards the upper opening, at the bottom of the big cistern in the courtyard of the peristyle. Priests garments and flasks that were given as vows are buried in the hill of Kohlit[4]. This is all of the votive offerings of the seventh treasure. The second tenth is impure. The opening is at the edge of the canal on its northern side six cubits toward the immersed pool.CAG Enter into the hole of the waterproofed Reservoir of Manos[5], descend to the left, forty talents of silver lie three cubits from the bottom.
http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/~humm/Resources/StudTxts/3Q15.html

Extensively footnoted to note how little is really known about the scroll or what it means...

Footnotes
[1] Horebbah like most of the locations are either fictional or too ambiguous in description to merit verification.
[2] According to Wise, Abegg, Cook the signifigance of the greek letters that follow this in several of the subsequent descriptions remains mysterous.
[3] The introduction by Vermes suggests that the amount of treasure is arbitrary. All of the amounts would total sixty-five tons of silver and twenty-six tons of gold in weight.
[4] The existence and location of this place is unknown.
[5] This location is unknown.
[6] This location is unknown.
[7] Wise, Abegg and Cook suggest that the cistern described here may be the large ancient cistern lying just beneath the First Wall of Jerusalem.
[8] The location of Matia’s courtyard is unknown.
[9] Wise, Abegg and Cook are uncertain whether Milham refers to a place or a structure.
[10] Wise, Abegg and Cook state that the Wadi Atsla opens to the northwest of the Dead Sea, about two kilometers from the site of Qumran.
[11] Secacah appears in the Bible in Joshua 15:61, in a list of cities located in the wilderness of Judea. The modern identification is disputed, but many scholars think that Secacah was an ancient name for the site of Qumran.
[12] The pool of Solomon is unidentified.
[13] Kepah’s location is unknown.
[14] The Queen’s Mausoleum is unidentified, but it may well have been located near Jericho, where the Hasmonean kings and queens had done considerable building and lived part of the year according to Wise, Abegg and Cook.
[15] All of the translations submit only a hiatus after the capital Q.
[16] The priestly family of Hakkoz lived near Jericho. According to Ezra 8:33 and Nehemiah 10:6, they may have been in charge of the Temple treasury in the Second-Temple period.
[17] Dok is about two kilometers north of Jericho according to the sources of Wise, Abegg and Cook.
[18] Kozibah apparently designated that portion of the Wadi Qelt stretching between Ein Qelt and Jericho.
[19] This location is unknown.
[20] This location is unknown.
[21] Nataf was a small opening resembling a large birdhouse that had many entrances, many birds lived there at the same time.
[22] A city located sixteen kilometers northwest of Jerusalem.
[23] Beth Hakerem is on the south of Jerusalem, at the modern Kibbutz Ramat Rachel. No treasure has been found there by modern inhabitants.
[24] Stood in the Ancient Royal Valley, now known as Emeq Rephaim thirteen hundred kilometers south of Jerusalem.
[25] No notes are given on Zadok.
[26] A former site of the Samaritians temple to the God of Israel.
[27] Beth Shem is unknown. It may be an error for Beth Shemesh, the city in the southwest famously associated with Samson.
[28] The inventory list with all its details is supposedly in another Copper Scroll. But it has never been found.


prepared for Intro. to the Hebrew Bible
by Chad Hack & Nathaniel Carey
CareyN@albnet.alb.edu


So, we are expected to believe that Israel is going to let a non-Jewish American dig around looking for the Ark of the Covenant, supposing there is a secret passage leading directly to it?
Oh Yeah.

An easy prediction here... nothing will be found.

[shecky]

Originally posted by Kopji

An easy prediction here... nothing will be found.

:( Ya think so? I was hoping we gould get some footage of BinLaden's face melting, like that bad nazi from Raiders.

[tracer]

Originally posted by TeaBag420
n.b. the "i" key is above the "k", and the "o" key is above the "l".
Only if you're using a conventional keyboard layout.

On the Dvorak keyboard layout (which I'm using to type this), the "i" key is on the home row between the "u" and the "d" (above the "k" and the "x"), and the "o" key is on the home row next to the "a" (above the ";" and the "q").

[Dragon]

Originally posted by TeaBag420
..snip..

What is your point, besides "yeah, you go enjoy having sex with the cheerleader while we're correcting minor typos on an internet forum "?

..snip...

There, that makes more sense!

[Psi Baba]

You mean it's not in Ethiopia? According to some, it's sitting in this building:

http://exodus2006.com/Axum/TreasuryStMarys.jpg

and being gaurded by this man:

http://exodus2006.com/monk.jpg

[Red Siegfried]

My prediction is that they won't find the tunnel but they'll say that if they just had a little more funding they could dig it up, 'cause they're SURE it's REAL CLOSE.

Oldest scam in the book.

[Red Siegfried]

Originally posted by Psi Baba
You mean it's not in Ethiopia? According to some, it's sitting in this building:

and being gaurded by this man:


Yeah, but it's only there when you can't see it. That's how the magic works.

Even if there were an "ark" in there, who's going to identify it as THE ark? No one.

It's kind of sad when you think about it. Unless someone invents time travel we will NEVER know if the ark really even existed or not, and even then we may not ever find out.

I propose we just build a new Ark of The Covenant and declare that it is the official Ark from now on. Then there will be no question. Sound like a good idea? No? Well, God said it was okay so I'm doing it. And anyone who doesn't like it can kiss my ***. I'm on a mission from God. And by the way, that is my idea which is officially patented and copyrighted and all that so dont' go stealing it or I'll sic God on you.

After all, I don't have to get all the people to believe me, just enough of them. As "Bob" said, "Why ask someone to give you a million dollars when you can just ask a million people to give you one?"

[Disco]

I thought Ron Wyatt already found it:

http://www.arkdiscovery.com/aoc-2.htm

But the guardian angels weren't ready for it to be shown to the world, or something like that.

Then one of the angels stepped forward (this is the only one of the four that would speak to him) and told Ron that they were the ones whose job it was to guard the Ark of the Covenant. They had done this since Moses had first placed the tables of stone in it. He told him that God wanted people to see all of these things at a particular point in time. He then instructed Ron to set up his tripod and video camera in a certain place and turn it on.

Here's an interesting discussion about it with a WyattFan:

http://www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=1&t=328&m=1

A long read, but the WyattFan is a hoot!

MHB

[Perpetual Notion]

Originally posted by Psi Baba
You mean it's not in Ethiopia?

and being gaurded by this man:


I saw an interview with the guard/priest and he and the man he inherited the job from have never actually seen the Ark. He sits in the room where it's supposedly entombed and he said that he doesn't need to check to be sure that it's really there because it's a test of faith and if God says it's in there then that's good enough for them.

They're a bit testy about all the questions and tourists and after the interview I was left with the impression that you will never see an Ethiopian driving around with a bumper sticker that says "Ask Me about my Ark".

[LostAngeles]

Originally posted by ooh_child
I thought Ron Wyatt already found it:

http://www.arkdiscovery.com/aoc-2.htm

But the guardian angels weren't ready for it to be shown to the world, or something like that.



Here's an interesting discussion about it with a WyattFan:

http://www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=1&t=328&m=1

A long read, but the WyattFan is a hoot!

MHB

OW! MY BRAIN!

[Mark A. Siefert]

I just want to know if we can use it to melt Nazis. BTW, didn't our old buddy David Icke do a.. ahem... "documentary" were he said that the Ark was built by aliens?

[Beady]

Originally posted by Perpetual Notion
...and he said that he doesn't need to check to be sure that it's really there because it's a test of faith and if God says it's in there then that's good enough for them.

I think I missed something. When did God say it was there?

[Soapy Sam]

I get confused. How did Noah get all those animals in a little wooden box? And wouldn't they trample the documents?