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Mephisto
17th June 2005, 06:03 PM
This is interesting, and as the article says full of irony. This has been a long time coming.
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Mississippi Lawyer: What's White Is Right
By John F. Sugg
t r u t h o u t | Report

Friday 17 June 2005


James McIntyre, one of Killen's attorneys.
(Photo: Kate Medley / Jackson Free Press)
Edgar Ray Killen - preacher, sawmill operator and Ku Klux Klansman - is on trial in Philadelphia, Mississippi, for a heinous crime, the murders of three civil rights workers 41 years ago.

It's a case full of ironies - Killen, for example, in 1965 presided at the dual funeral for the parents of the man who is now the judge in the case, Marcus Gordon. Ten years later, Gordon was the prosecutor in Neshoba County, and he convicted Killen and sent him to jail for five months for making a threatening phone call.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/061705C.shtml

Mephisto
21st June 2005, 10:02 AM
Edgar Ray Killen, a part-time Baptist minister and KKK member who took part in the murder of three civil-rights workers in the 60s has been convicted for his part in the killings.

This HAS been a long time coming and it's good to see that justice, however slow, has been done! Too bad his life in prison will be a short one. Hopefully, the KKK (and their baby bitches, the skinheads) will realize that they too can stand trial for something they did in the past.

Charlie Monoxide
21st June 2005, 10:35 AM
Has Bushed signed the anti-lynching legeslation sent over from the senate yet?

Charlie (I love the taste of irony in the morning) Monoxide

Mephisto
21st June 2005, 11:24 AM
Originally posted by Charlie Monoxide
Has Bushed signed the anti-lynching legeslation sent over from the senate yet?

Charlie (I love the taste of irony in the morning) Monoxide

:D :D

No, and they won't even admit that racial killings (or Killens) are the result of a permanent vegetative state!

Luke T.
21st June 2005, 11:40 AM
Originally posted by Charlie Monoxide
Has Bushed signed the anti-lynching legeslation sent over from the senate yet?


Has any President or Senate done so before now?

Charlie (I love the taste of irony in the morning) Monoxide

Luke (why the sudden rush?) T.

mr rosewater
21st June 2005, 11:48 AM
the only kkk member left in the senate that I know is Robert Byrd, the democrat from West Virginia

pgwenthold
21st June 2005, 12:00 PM
Originally posted by Mephisto
Edgar Ray Killen, a part-time Baptist minister and KKK member who took part in the murder of three civil-rights workers in the 60s has been convicted for his part in the killings.


Apparently the jury did not buy the mayor's testimony that the KKK was basically a peaceful organization.

Seriously, that is what he testified.

Cleon
21st June 2005, 12:03 PM
Originally posted by mr rosewater
the only kkk member left in the senate that I know is Robert Byrd, the democrat from West Virginia

He is not a KKK member.

Luke T.
21st June 2005, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by Cleon
He is not a KKK member.

...any more.

Beanbag
21st June 2005, 12:17 PM
Originally posted by pgwenthold
Apparently the jury did not buy the mayor's testimony that the KKK was basically a peaceful organization.

Seriously, that is what he testified.

From Evil: Inside Human Violence and Cruelty, Roy F. Baumeister:


...the Ku Klux Klan started out specifically as a club devoted to fun, with no political or racial purpose. At first, they played jokes on one another and then on members of the public in general, and then gradually they began to aim their pranks at black people. The violence didn't start until later. Even then, though, one can understand that the organization may have had appeal as a source of fun. Members of the Ku Klux Klan in later decades would often reject the notion that racist politics were central. To them, it was a society devoted to good family fun: picnics, bonfires, parades, fireworks, baby shows, and pie-eating contests, mixed together with the costumes, rituals, and secret words.


People function in groups at various levels, and the KKK (like any other organization) probably had its share of members in the Provisional Wing.

Beanbag

aerocontrols
21st June 2005, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by Charlie Monoxide
Has Bushed signed the anti-lynching legeslation sent over from the senate yet?

Charlie (I love the taste of irony in the morning) Monoxide

The Senate passed a resolution apologizing for never passing anti-lynching legislation, they didn't pass anti-lynching legislation.

Presidents don't 'sign' Simple Senate or House resolutions.


Matt (Not so fond of the smell of ignorance in the afternoon) J

Mephisto
21st June 2005, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by pgwenthold
Apparently the jury did not buy the mayor's testimony that the KKK was basically a peaceful organization.

Seriously, that is what he testified.

I know that the "new" klan is talking about promoting "white pride," but most people know what they're about. I'm surprised that the mayor tried the BS on a jury. Wish I could have heard the snickers in the audience.
:D

Oregon_Skeptic
21st June 2005, 12:25 PM
According to Wikipedia, Byrd is not a member now and has not been since the early 1940s, and he has not supported or defended the Klan since the late 1950s. Since that time it seems Byrd calls this a mistake of his youth: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Byrd.

aerocontrols
21st June 2005, 12:33 PM
Here (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/18/AR2005061801105_pf.html) is a pretty good overview of Byrd's history with the KKK.

Cleon
21st June 2005, 12:34 PM
Originally posted by Oregon_Skeptic
According to Wikipedia, Byrd is not a member now and has not been since the early 1940s, and he has not supported or defended the Klan since the late 1950s. Since that time it seems Byrd calls this a mistake of his youth: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Byrd.

Yep. Which means he is not a Klan member, much less "the only kkk member left in the senate," which was pretty shameless, IMHO.

JPK
21st June 2005, 12:56 PM
Good afternoon.
Originally posted by Charlie Monoxide
Has Bushed signed the anti-lynching legeslation sent over from the senate yet?


I guess not, but there is this

Bush Lifts Ban on Vigilantism (http://www.theonion.com/news/index.php?issue=4123)

JPK

mr rosewater
21st June 2005, 01:13 PM
Byrd on the Klan-- the "albatross around my neck" poor man.

American
21st June 2005, 01:24 PM
Originally posted by Mephisto
This HAS been a long time coming and it's good to see that justice, however slow, has been done! Too bad his life in prison will be a short one.

I've lost sleep. My life was a lie until right now.

Hopefully, the KKK (and their baby bitches, the skinheads) will realize that they too can stand trial for something they did in the past.

KKK is strictly "the South". They espouse white Christian preservation, achieved through racist policy and terror acts.

The skinheads are founded on machoist, patently homosexual ideals of Aryan superiority. They explicitly reject Judeo-Christian morality as a constraint on their freedom, particularly Papal authority but truly any apostolic church of continental Europe.

There is no relation between them whatsoever. Love and hate them seperately.

Mephisto
22nd June 2005, 09:52 AM
Originally posted by American
KKK is strictly "the South". They espouse white Christian preservation, achieved through racist policy and terror acts.

The skinheads are founded on machoist, patently homosexual ideals of Aryan superiority. They explicitly reject Judeo-Christian morality as a constraint on their freedom, particularly Papal authority but truly any apostolic church of continental Europe.

There is no relation between them whatsoever. Love and hate them seperately.

I'll bet people of ethnicity make no such distinctions between the two. They are both White Supremicists, the idea that one group burns crosses and the other group holds ice cream socials while wearing spandex lingerie is moot.

Renfield
22nd June 2005, 10:27 AM
Originally posted by American
I've lost sleep. My life was a lie until right now.



KKK is strictly "the South". They espouse white Christian preservation, achieved through racist policy and terror acts.



KKK used to have a pretty strong following in the north, the midwest, I believe.

American
22nd June 2005, 10:02 PM
Originally posted by Mephisto
I'll bet people of ethnicity make no such distinctions between the two.

That's a racist statement to make.

American
22nd June 2005, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by Renfield
KKK used to have a pretty strong following in the north, the midwest, I believe.

80-100 years ago, yes, but it was never any match for the Grange, by comparison.

Mephisto
23rd June 2005, 12:04 AM
Originally posted by American
That's a racist statement to make.

Sure it is, take away the swastikas, the eagles, the RAHOWA B.S. and they all look alike!

;)