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WhiteLion
20th June 2005, 12:03 PM
Below is a quote from a white nationalist from the notorious site Stormfront.org
While I do believe creationisms growth in society to be a detriment, this below represents the "understanding" for a lot of misguided perceptions in the US as in Europe.
A growing aspect at that as well, sadly.
While I do not know of the climat as so in the US the site Stormfront has been growing quite strongly since it launched some ten years ago, perhaps it is time for more active responses toward their movement instead of just concentrating on religious and paranormal pseudoscience?
In High School our English class was made to read many African American novels and quite honestly I didn't enjoy any one of them. They try and make us never forget what the "white man" did to them. They demand respect and to be treated equal in both mind and law. But if they want to be treated like Men, why do many of the Afro-American novelists use horrible grammar when a character is speaking or just horrible grammar in the narration process. Also, books published my african americans between 1910-1960 seem to have alot of racial incompetence. If anyone here has read the book "Native Son" they have an idea of what I'm talking about.
Ducky
20th June 2005, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by WhiteLion
Below is a quote from a white nationalist from the notorious site Stormfront.org
While I do believe creationisms growth in society to be a detriment, this below represents the "understanding" for a lot of misguided perceptions in the US as in Europe.
A growing aspect at that as well, sadly.
While I do not know of the climat as so in the US the site Stormfront has been growing quite strongly since it launched some ten years ago, perhaps it is time for more active responses toward their movement instead of just concentrating on religious and paranormal pseudoscience?
I find it amusing that someone with his grasp of language would criticise grammar.
I agree, racist extremism and hate groups are leeches on society.
I did find it amusing that the head of the Aryan Nation lives in Dearborn Michigan, surrounded by many minorities. Wonder how he doesn't get his comeuppance...
Worrisome at best, frightening at worst. I guess that fight is no different than that against EVP. The true believers will never let go of their stupid beliefs.
Skeptic
21st June 2005, 08:37 PM
You're taking "Stormfront" too seriously. I'm sure they keep SAYING how they are growing so wonderfully fast, but in reality they're just a bunch of fringe kooks and never had more than a tiny membership.
By the way, "I don't like African-American literature" or "African-American characters should not talk in black slang because it makes them look silly" shows he missed the entire point of the literature (i.e., that such characters are not the author who created them and their point is to show the unfairness of racism), but it is not exactly my idea of insensate racial hatered.
Go figure; somehow I can't see the guy who wrote this hitting a black man over the head with a bottle: "That's for having the characters in 'Native Son' show incompetence, you BASTARD!"
WhiteLion
22nd June 2005, 05:37 PM
You're quite right Skeptic.
Most WN's on Stormfront resents the term hatred because most do not "hate" for example black people.
Though in a direct way they resent their presence and point contiously toward different aspects of factual and non factual sources, anyway they can get it, to discredit any value of "multiculturalism" and/or the presence of non-whites in US and in Europe.
So I think taking Stormfront WN's seriously is as valid in contemporary society, if not more valid, as/then people of EVP convictions.
Ducky
22nd June 2005, 05:44 PM
Originally posted by WhiteLion
You're quite right Skeptic.
Most WN's on Stormfront resents the term hatred because most do not "hate" for example black people.
Though in a direct way they resent their presence and point contiously toward different aspects of factual and non factual sources, anyway they can get it, to discredit any value of "multiculturalism" and/or the presence of non-whites in US and in Europe.
So I think taking Stormfront WN's seriously is as valid in contemporary society, if not more valid, as/then people of EVP convictions.
Let me clarify my statement regarding comparing hate groups to EVP.
I have yet to explain the physics of what happens in EVP to a believer and have them say "Oh. yeah I guess it's more likely that."
I have yet to point out logical fallacies in hate group literature to skinheads et. all and have them say "Oh yeah. I guess this a waste of time to have these prejudices when I could be doing constructive things."
The connection I was trying to draw was not the validity of their belief, it's of their unwillingness to even hear contrary points to what they believe.
WhiteLion
22nd June 2005, 06:12 PM
The connection I was trying to draw was not the validity of their belief, it's of their unwillingness to even hear contrary points to what they believe.
My insert of the "EVP" wasn't a hint for you Fowlsound, I understood your context and purpose with it :)
Ducky
22nd June 2005, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by WhiteLion
My insert of the "EVP" wasn't a hint for you Fowlsound, I understood your context and purpose with it :)
Fair enough...
Often I need hints though, which would explain my need to take everyone else's... :D
WhiteLion
22nd June 2005, 06:24 PM
Often I need hints though, which would explain my need to take everyone else's...
Yes I can relate with that need so it's all well and good.
My main "argument" is that I would like to see more of these intelligent people of logic engaging in debate with WN's moreso than EVP's, remote-viewers etc as so.
Ducky
22nd June 2005, 06:27 PM
Originally posted by WhiteLion
Yes I can relate with that need so it's all well and good.
My main "argument" is that I would like to see more of these intelligent people of logic engaging in debate with WN's moreso than EVP's, remote-viewers etc as so.
Indeed. Ghost hunters and EVP believers are much more amusing to watch as they run rampant than racists...;)
WhiteLion
22nd June 2005, 06:33 PM
Indeed. Ghost hunters and EVP believers are much more amusing to watch as they run rampant than racists...
I agree, they in most cases quite harmless.
Still I must tell you I'm somewhat dispositioned within spiritualistic philosophy and so forth.
Ducky
22nd June 2005, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by WhiteLion
I agree, they in most cases quite harmless.
Still I must tell you I'm somewhat dispositioned within spiritualistic philosophy and so forth.
I wonder how many of the WN's are ID/Creationists...
All I need is one more reason to rail against magical thinking. That it would be overlapping with racist ideology would just put icing on the cake.
Of course how many blonde white Jesus' do we see?
;)
WhiteLion
22nd June 2005, 06:59 PM
I wonder how many of the WN's are ID/Creationists
Actually the majority seems to be conservative republicans who support evolution, eugenics, cranomitry and the battle against jewish supremecy and ridding the US of all non-whites... while praying to Jesus, lol!
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