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LostAngeles
22nd June 2005, 01:39 PM
So they've stopped. Or the stopping makes it successful... (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050622/ap_on_bi_ge/southern_baptists_disney) I'm not too clear on how that works. I always thought that you end the boycott when you get what you want.

..."We believe for the boycott to be effective, it had to have a beginning and an ending," said Gene Mims, chairman of the Southern Baptist Convention committee that put the Disney resolution before some 12,000 members at the meeting.
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We felt like it was time to end it. We're hopeful Disney will do what the resolution calls for," Mims added.

The resolution states Disney should serve "families of America by providing only those products that affirm traditional family values."

Southern Baptists should also continue to monitor the "products and policies of the Disney Company," according to the resolution, which also urged members to "practice continued discernment regarding all entertainment products from all sources."

Officials at Burbank, Calif.-based Disney did not immediately have a comment.

"We have cost them (Disney) hundreds of millions of dollars," said Wiley Gray, an SBC member from Florida, who spoke in favor of lifting the boycott because Disney had made corporate changes, including the March announcement that longtime Disney Chief Executive Michael Eisner would leave the company in October.
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I'm going to call an, "Evidence, please," on that statement.

Well, according to an AP report (http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosinsider/0506/01/0auto-200070.htm) on the American Family Association boycotting Disney,

The AFA recently ended a nine-year boycott of The Walt Disney Co. over Disney's decision to extend benefits to same-sex couples and promote gay-related events at its theme parks. The boycott appeared to have little effect, since Disney reported higher earnings and increased theme park attendance during that time.

The SBC boycott has been going on since 1997, which is a mere <strike>seven</strike> eight years. So that's two boycotts that were concurrently happeneing, yet Disney doesn't seem to be having a problem, according to the AP. I do remember that when I went after 9/11, they were really scrambling to draw people to the parks, but a lot of tourist destinations were struggling at that time.

But hey, if you'd like to read about their quarterly earning since 2001, go ahead. (http://corporate.disney.go.com/investors/quarterly_earnings.html)

I think the end of the boycotts are a combination of two things, myself. One, Michael Eisner leaving is apparently a "victory for" everyone. I'm surprised people haven't called for a national holiday. Secondly, Disneyland is having it's fiftieth birthday (and WDW is getting all the presents) and gosh darn, that's a big celebration they've got going on. ("We wanna go! We wanna go! Mommy! Daddy! Take us to Disney!")

Or maybe I'm being a bit cynical on that last part?

Edit: I can't do math unless it involves letters any more. Also, that bit about "investigating schools to see if they're too accepting of homosexuality" is a bit creepy also.

TragicMonkey
22nd June 2005, 01:52 PM
Originally posted by LostAngeles
Also, that bit about "investigating schools to see if they're too accepting of homosexuality" is a bit creepy also.

What decent parent would want to send their child to a school where there are unacceptable numbers of gay kids beaten up? The target figures are 75% of suspected gay kids beaten up, and 97% of openly admitted gay kids beaten up. Let's see if we can't all pull together and do our part in the name of the Lord and get those numbers even higher!

aerocontrols
22nd June 2005, 02:07 PM
You put the words 'a success' in quotes. Whom are you quoting?

LostAngeles
22nd June 2005, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by aerocontrols
You put the words 'a success' in quotes. Whom are you quoting?

No one, actually. From the article they seem to be speaking with a triumphant tone, what with the claim of having cost Disney a tidy sum of money with their boycott. I really should have had "success" be the only word in quotes, because my whole point is that apparently, it really wasn't. It got some publicity and Disney apparently changed none of the things they were complaining about.

They were sarcasm quotes. Sorry about that.

aerocontrols
22nd June 2005, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by LostAngeles
No one, actually. From the article they seem to be speaking with a triumphant tone, what with the claim of having cost Disney a tidy sum of money with their boycott. I really should have had "success" be the only word in quotes, because my whole point is that apparently, it really wasn't. It got some publicity and Disney apparently changed none of the things they were complaining about.

They were sarcasm quotes. Sorry about that.

I don't think there's a standard rule for sarcasm quotes(in fact, I believe sarcasm quotes are, strictly speaking, incorrect), but I generally only use double quotes when I'm quoting someone directly.

Usually I think sarcasm quotes should be single-quotes, whether the person using them is making a direct quotation whose validity they are disputing, or using them to characterize someone's position via words the person didn't use.

Whenever I see double-quotes, I look for the context in which the quoted words were said, is all.

ManfredVonRichthoffen
22nd June 2005, 03:16 PM
Originally posted by aerocontrols
I don't think there's a standard rule for sarcasm quotes(in fact, I believe sarcasm quotes are, strictly speaking, incorrect), but I generally only use double quotes when I'm quoting someone directly.

Usually I think sarcasm quotes should be single-quotes, whether the person using them is making a direct quotation whose validity they are disputing, or using them to characterize someone's position via words the person didn't use.

Whenever I see double-quotes, I look for the context in which the quoted words were said, is all. "Thank you" for the "information"

LostAngeles
22nd June 2005, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by ManfredVonRichthoffen
"Thank you" for the "information"

Be nice now. I appreciate comments on style.

shecky
22nd June 2005, 03:24 PM
There was a boycott of Disney?!?

LostAngeles
22nd June 2005, 03:44 PM
Originally posted by shecky
There was a boycott of Disney?!?

Boycotts are like fanfiction. If you look hard enough, you can find one about everything.

gnome
22nd June 2005, 04:32 PM
Originally posted by LostAngeles
Be nice now. I appreciate comments on style.

I'm not being "sarcastic", it's just a "typo".

aerocontrols
22nd June 2005, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by ManfredVonRichthoffen
"Thank you" for the "information"

I wasn't trying to be rude.

ManfredVonRichthoffen
23rd June 2005, 05:49 AM
Guess I should have used a smiley. The one with the tongue.

Charlie Monoxide
23rd June 2005, 06:22 AM
The ending of the Disney boycott will dovetail nicely with the Southern Baptist goal of converting 1,000,000 people in the next year.

Charlie (1 less Southern Baptist convert) Monoxide