The Democrats Joyless Liberation

[Richard G]

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[Mel]

Maybe the Democrats would rather wait until the end of the war to comment on its success? Not an entirely bad idea.

[jj]

Originally posted by Mel
Maybe the Democrats would rather wait until the end of the war to comment on its success? Not an entirely bad idea.

Maybe the "tax and spend republicans' ought to wait until the war is paid for to decide if it's successful or not for the common man?

[arcticpenguin]

"The most awesome victory in military history" - that is certainly open to debate. I would think proponents would avoid use of words related to "shock" and "awe" in describing the war, since the idea that we would put on a really good fireworks display and the other side would simply capitulate was one of the things that worked least well about the war.

[Richard G]

Maybe the "tax and spend republicans'

You gotta be joking right??? Every tax cut this administration has passed, and proposed has been fought tooth and nail by the obstructing demonrats. THEY are the ones who refuse to lower my taxes.

[Baker]

Originally posted by Mel
Maybe the Democrats would rather wait until the end of the war to comment on its success? Not an entirely bad idea.

Alternatively, maybe they’re just refusing to give credit to the opposing party.

[corplinx]

Originally posted by arcticpenguin
"The most awesome victory in military history" - that is certainly open to debate. I would think proponents would avoid use of words related to "shock" and "awe" in describing the war, since the idea that we would put on a really good fireworks display and the other side would simply capitulate was one of the things that worked least well about the war.

I think people misunderstood shock and awe. The military had a race to baghdad that was shock and awe. Joe Non-military was waiting to be awed by mushroom clouds I guess.

Yes this was shock and awe. They rushed in and took the capital in just a few weeks. By taking out the command center, it becomes easier to get surrenders from unconquered regions (as it was in Panama).

I think people had their expectations too high. Since we didnt carpet bomb or drop a nuke, everyone feels ripped off.

[Bjorn]

Reading this makes me wonder:

Vermont Governor Howard Dean remarked, "We’ve gotten rid of (Saddam Hussein), I suppose that’s a good thing" (emphasis added).

What does he suppose would be better? The question could easily be asked the other way around: What could become worse?

As much as I agree that Saddam was evil, we don't know if getting rid of him was a good thing (for the US or for the population of Iraq) until we see what replaces him.

Richard G just posted this about Arabs:

The destruction of the Jews is their [Arab] common goal. And that hatred is so fierce, and their brainwashing so complete, that they would prefer to live in despotism, and kill themselves (marytrdom) than side with any nation that is a friend of Israel.Why is he so optimistic about the future Arab leaders of Iraq? :confused:

[Richard G]

I'm not. We went in to kill terrorists, and destroy WMDs. Mission accomplished.

I'll give it five years after all this is over, with the most democratic, and free Iraq one could imagine, and it will hate the U.S., because we support Israel.

It's like AIDS, the Arab hate is incurable.

[Bjorn]

I'm not. We went in to kill terrorists, and destroy WMDs. Mission accomplished. We killed some people. We're looking for WMDs.

I'll give it five years after all this is over, with the most democratic, and free Iraq one could imagine, and it will hate the U.S., because we support Israel. If what you predict turns out to be true, and they didn't have the WMDs in the first place, what was the point of the killing of soldiers and innocent people alike during the last weeks?

It's like AIDS, the Arab hate is incurable. Don't forget that the Jews are Arabs too .... :confused:

[jj]

Originally posted by Richard G


You gotta be joking right??? Every tax cut this administration has passed, and proposed has been fought tooth and nail by the obstructing demonrats. THEY are the ones who refuse to lower my taxes.

You mean, Richard, that the Democrats have refused to fuel runaway inflation.

The record of the administrations since 1960 are stunningly, blindingly, absolutely clear. Republicans overspend, Democrats recover.

And I'm a registered Republican, so spare me the ad-hominems.

[Tricky]

Originally posted by Richard G
We went in to kill terrorists, and destroy WMDs. Mission accomplished.

Really? Which terrorists have we killed? What WMDs have we destroyed?

Originally posted by Richard G
I'll give it five years after all this is over, with the most democratic, and free Iraq one could imagine, and it will hate the U.S., because we support Israel.

It's like AIDS, the Arab hate is incurable.
So tell me, why are you and so many pro-war people proud of "liberating" a bunch of people who you expect will hate us anyway? From the glee you've expressed in pounding a vastly weaker army, one would almost think you were looking forward to doing this again in five years.

[corplinx]

Originally posted by Tricky

Really? Which terrorists have we killed? What WMDs have we destroyed?



We've taken out several camps in the North. Not to mention cut off a source of funds for palestinian terror.


As far as WMDS go, we shall see.

[Tricky]

Originally posted by corplinx


We've taken out several camps in the North. Not to mention cut off a source of funds for palestinian terror.


As far as WMDS go, we shall see.
If we have taken out any terrorist camps, it certainly has been poorly covered. Also, as you probably know, Northern Iraq is the part that was least under Saddam's control. In any case, you could not argue that taking out terrorist camps has been in any way a priority.

Yes, we have not found WMD's yet, so I assume you will admit you were wrong when you said "mission accomplished".