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HarryKeogh
28th June 2005, 10:49 AM
Seems all of Tom's yapping has called people to action. I hope this is the beginning of a major backlash for Tom's shilling of the CoS (though I still can't wait to see War of the Worlds). This was in my junk email folder today. Below is the full text of the e-mail:

We are telling you this story as a warning. If you become involved with Scientology then we would like you to do so with your eyes open and fully aware of the sort of material it contains.

Most of the Scientologists who work in their Dianetics* centres and so called "Churches" of Scientology do not know this story since they are not allowed to hear it until they reach the secret "upper" levels of Scientology. It may take them many years before they reach this level if they ever do. The ones who do know it are forced to keep it a secret and not tell it to those people who are joining Scientology.

Please forward this e-mail to everyone you know. This story is the core belief in the religion known as Scientology.

Who is Xenu?
I'm going to tell you a story. Are you sitting comfortably? Right, then I'll begin.
Once upon a time (75 million years ago to be more precise) there was an alien galactic ruler named Xenu. Xenu was in charge of all the planets in this part of the galaxy including our own planet Earth, except in those days it was called Teegeeack.

Now Xenu had a problem. All of the 76 planets he controlled were overpopulated. Each planet had on average 178 billion people. He wanted to get rid of all the overpopulation so he had a plan.

Xenu took over complete control with the help of renegades to defeat the good people and the Loyal Officers. Then with the help of psychiatrists he called in billions of people for income tax inspections where they were instead given injections of alcohol and glycol mixed to paralyse them. Then they were put into space planes that looked exactly like DC8s (except they had rocket motors instead of propellers).

These DC8 space planes then flew to planet Earth where the paralysed people were stacked around the bases of volcanoes in their hundreds of billions. When they had finished stacking them around then H-bombs were lowered into the volcanoes. Xenu then detonated all the H-bombs at the same time and everyone was killed.

The story doesn't end there though. Since everyone has a soul (called a "thetan" in this story) then you have to trick souls into not coming back again. So while the hundreds of billions of souls were being blown around by the nuclear winds he had special electronic traps that caught all the souls in electronic beams (the electronic beams were sticky like fly-paper).

After he had captured all these souls he had them packed into boxes and taken to a few huge cinemas. There all the souls had to spend days watching special 3D motion pictures that told them what life should be like and many confusing things. In this film they were shown false pictures and told they were God, The Devil and Christ. In the story this process is called "implanting".

When the films ended and the souls left the cinema these souls started to stick together because since they had all seen the same film they thought they were the same people. They clustered in groups of a few thousand. Now because there were only a few living bodies left they stayed as clusters and inhabited these bodies.

As for Xenu, the Loyal Officers finally overthrew him and they locked him away in a mountain on one of the planets. He is kept in by a force-field powered by an eternal battery and Xenu is still alive today.

That is the end of the story. And so today everyone is full of these clusters of souls called "body thetans". And if we are to be a free soul then we have to remove all these "body thetans" and pay lots of money to do so. And the only reason people believe in God and Christ was because it was in the film their body thetans saw 75 million years ago.

Well what did you think of that story?

What? You thought it was a stupid story?

Well so do we. However, this story is the core belief in the religion known as Scientology.* If people knew about this story then most people would never get involved in it. This story is told to you when you reach one of their secret levels called OT III. After that you are supposed to telepathically communicate with these body thetans to make them go away. You have to pay a lot of money to get to this level and do this (or you have to work very hard for the organisation on extremely low pay for many years).

Now you have read this you know their big secret. Don't let us put you off joining though.


I found this article and other information on Scientology at www.xenu.com

Thank you.

The Blind Painter
28th June 2005, 11:03 AM
Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot.

TobiasTheViking
28th June 2005, 11:06 AM
Even if it is for a good purpose, i still can't condone SPAM.

HarryKeogh
28th June 2005, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by TobiasTheCommie
Even if it is for a good purpose, i still can't condone SPAM.

I hear ya.

Though I was tempted to forward it to some friends but I don't know how much of it is exaggerations or B.S.

TobiasTheViking
28th June 2005, 11:41 AM
oh, i believe it is quite accurate.

Mid
28th June 2005, 11:57 AM
When I googled:

scientology beliefs xenu

I got the website:

http://www.xenu.net/

not xenu.com, so I would be a bit sceptical on clicking on the dot com website. Anyway xenu.net supports the general gist of the SPAM.

TobiasTheViking
28th June 2005, 12:08 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenu

xenu.com is the same page.

TragicMonkey
28th June 2005, 01:13 PM
Wow. That's the crappiest scifi story I've ever read.

I guess the Scientologists won't be making a movie of it with Tom Cruise in the lead, since it's such a secret.

Oh, and box office, career-killing poison.

Cthulhu
28th June 2005, 04:47 PM
Are we sure that scientology isnt just another bad LRH sci-fi story that someone got confused with along the way?

wow...that is hideous.

TobiasTheViking
28th June 2005, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by Cthulhu
Are we sure that scientology isnt just another bad LRH sci-fi story that someone got confused with along the way?

wow...that is hideous.

He wrote that story long before he started the CoS.
Well, draft anyways.
And got it puplished in some magazine.

So.. if someone got confused.. it was LRH himself.

c4ts
28th June 2005, 11:02 PM
I'd always thought Hubbard was a competent science fiction writer, but this has reversed my opinion.

No, wait, Battlefield Earth already did that for me.

Bruce
29th June 2005, 04:01 AM
I imagine it's a big secret because it would make for very poor recruiting propaganda.

Tom Cruise is a Scientologist? Now that's sexy! I want to be a Scientologist!

Space alien overlords trapped in mountains on distant planets? No thanks, I'll pass. :rolleyes:

ReFLeX
29th June 2005, 07:12 AM
Originally posted by HarryKeogh
...
Xenu took over complete control with the help of renegades to defeat the good people and the Loyal Officers. Then with the help of psychiatrists he called in billions of people for income tax inspections where they were instead given injections of alcohol and glycol mixed to paralyse them. Then they were put into space planes that looked exactly like DC8s (except they had rocket motors instead of propellers)...
Really, now?

Vim Razz
29th June 2005, 12:15 PM
Originally posted by Bruce
I imagine it's a big secret because it would make for very poor recruiting propaganda.

Space alien overlords trapped in mountains on distant planets? No thanks, I'll pass. :rolleyes: Yeppers, the story is unveiled in stages, depending on how far along the patsy is on their brainwashing.

New recruits are just told they can improve thier life by getting rid of negative energies -- becoming "clear".

After they've bought that for a while, they're told that these energies are in the form of "thetans" -- harmful energy parasites.

By the time they get to the alien story (that the thetans are really minions of Xenu), their sense of reality is so warped that they'll literaly believe anything. We're talking 10-15 years into their belief.

Anders
29th June 2005, 03:37 PM
I'm truly amazed that so many of the JREF Forum dwellers do not already knows of the xenu/xemu story. It should be common knowledge to most skeptics.

Ah, well, anyways, it's good spam though!

Even more amazing that anybody would ever join the $cienos. But I got to say; they do tie big stars to their PR campaigns.

First time in a while I've seen a post about the $cienos here...

Ryokan
29th June 2005, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by HarryKeogh
And the only reason people believe in God and Christ was because it was in the film their body thetans saw 75 million years ago.

So us Buddhists are in the clear (no pun intended), then? Or did they show movies about the Buddha as well?

How about movies about the Norse gods? That'd be cool :)

c4ts
29th June 2005, 05:59 PM
Originally posted by Anders
I'm truly amazed that so many of the JREF Forum dwellers do not already knows of the xenu/xemu story. It should be common knowledge to most skeptics.


Err... I thought it was. Xenu.org has been around for a long time, it's surfaced in the General Discussion (sorry, Forum Community) board several times.

Upchurch
30th June 2005, 07:42 AM
Originally posted by c4ts
Err... I thought it was. Me too, but it's entirely possible that it's just one of those things that resurfaces periodically and everyone (or at least me) has to go online and refresh their memories on the details. I had a fun time last night explaining the Xenu/thetans story to some friends.

Which reminds me. I started telling the story in response to the question, "What do Scientologists think of homosexuality and gay marriage?"

I honestly don't know the answer, but if they think homosexuality is wrong, a sin, etc., I'm guessing that the rationale would have to do with gays' poor deluted thetans confusing them into thinking they are gay, rather than any inate homosexuality.

Anyone know if the Co$ has an official position?

HarryKeogh
30th June 2005, 08:53 AM
Originally posted by Upchurch
Anyone know if the Co$ has an official position?

Upchurch, this is a pretty good summary

link (http://bernie.cncfamily.com/sc/gays_and_scientologists.htm)

TobiasTheViking
30th June 2005, 09:04 AM
Originally posted by Upchurch

Anyone know if the Co$ has an official position?

I once did some investigation on "different religions and their view of homosexuality" article i was going to write.
And CoS is very much against.. Atleast that was LRH's stance.. as far as i remember.

I never finished it so i can't source. Anyone who wants more than my word for it, should be able to find sources on google within 30s. :D

Pangloss
30th June 2005, 09:11 AM
Originally posted by Vim Razz
Yeppers, the story is unveiled in stages, depending on how far along the patsy is on their brainwashing.

New recruits are just told they can improve thier life by getting rid of negative energies -- becoming "clear".

After they've bought that for a while, they're told that these energies are in the form of "thetans" -- harmful energy parasites.

By the time they get to the alien story (that the thetans are really minions of Xenu), their sense of reality is so warped that they'll literaly believe anything. We're talking 10-15 years into their belief.
You're denying yourself a source of serious income, Vim. I read this through and was convinced of the truth of your argument in a split second.;)