Feedback required, esp. BSM and Rolfe!

[Diamond]

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=59229

Your thoughts please.

:)

[Badly Shaved Monkey]

I think the idea of a resource that contains some of the arguments and insights we have come up with is a good idea, not least because I think at times we have discovered genuinely novel things to say about woo, courtesy, partly of having real believers to confront, which prompts one to come up with new things to say.

However, I can see it being a big job to make it in any way coherent. I also see the editable wiki as being open to co-ordinated attacks by the enemies of rationality.

For myself, as I said recently, I am trying to reduce my activity here. It's been fun cornering NHCoraHSarah, but I've pretty well reached my limit of reading her self-righteous inanity.

[Rolfe]

Have you talked to Geni? I'm not saying he actually runs the real Wikipedia, but sometimes it seems like it.

One thing which comes over clearly from his experience is the constant battle with the woos this sort of thing engenders. You may think that here in JREF you'd be putting forward a solely rational point of view, but that wouldn't necessarily be the case. Sarah (Naturalhealth/Homeoskeptic/Corallinus-and-maybe-Bowser), Barb, Olaf/QII (Xanta/Gold/yaw/nerr), Kumar, Gavinimurthy and the entire MAS collective are also JREF forum members. Can you imagine the potential for conflict and open warfare?

It takes a lot of time and emotional energy to be constantly defending one's bon mots from editing by woos. At least our actual forum posts are sacrosanct, a Wiki article would simply be open season.

Just a thought.

Rolfe.

[Diamond]

Originally posted by Rolfe
[B]Have you talked to Geni? I'm not saying he actually runs the real Wikipedia, but sometimes it seems like it.

Yes. I'm waiting for him to respond.

One thing which comes over clearly from his experience is the constant battle with the woos this sort of thing engenders. You may think that here in JREF you'd be putting forward a solely rational point of view, but that wouldn't necessarily be the case. Sarah (Naturalhealth/Homeoskeptic/Corallinus-and-maybe-Bowser), Barb, Olaf/QII (Xanta/Gold/yaw/nerr), Kumar, Gavinimurthy and the entire MAS collective are also JREF forum members. Can you imagine the potential for conflict and open warfare?


Yes. That's why the wiki has to be manageable against attacks and vandalism. I don't yet have the knowledge about how that is done, which is why I'm waiting for geni to respond.

I'm glad you and BSM think its a good idea. To be honest, I was thinking of your (plural) contributions about homeopathy and the efficacy of modern medicines that I wanted to capture for posterity (and to enable you to link rather than keep repeating yourselves)

It takes a lot of time and emotional energy to be constantly defending one's bon mots from editing by woos. At least our actual forum posts are sacrosanct, a Wiki article would simply be open season.

Just a thought.

Rolfe.

Agreed. That's why it has to be battle hardened from the get-go. If we don't, we'll get discouraged trying to constantly unvandalize it. We are outnumbered by the rationally challenged after all!

For that reason, I wait for an expert opinion.