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13th April 2003, 12:28 PM
One of the things the Left likes to talk about when it comes to imperialist designs that the U.S. has in Iraq, is business. I suppose just about everyone knows by now that Halliburton, of which our VP was once head (cue conspiracy music), is a main contender for post-war contracts.

"It's about oil." A favorite mantra meant to cast an evil attachment to our motives in Iraq.

So I have a question. Why weren't they talking about the French and German and Russian businesses that were dealing with Saddam Hussein up to the war? Can anyone even name one French, German or Russian company off the top of their head? Where were the complaints then that they were doing business with an evil dictator? Why was there so much silence?

I can name one French company, but that's because I searched on the internet. And I found it on a regular news site, and not on any of the anti-war sites. Halliburton is all over the anti-war sites. I think that is interesting and shows one of the many interesting selective focuses of the Left.

It has even been attempted to say that Saddam got most of his arms from us. But we know that isn't true. We know who the top three really were. And by a long shot. And interestingly, these top three all opposed the war.

So, it may be about oil. It may be about business. But at least the money will no longer go to Saddam.

Mel
13th April 2003, 12:49 PM
Maybe it would be nice if our media took a bit of time off from bashing its own country and tried to report ALL the FACTS for a change??

I doubt that would get the ratings though......

Baker
13th April 2003, 12:55 PM
Its amusing hearing the lefts conspiracy theory’s they will complain about JK’s theory’s or other well known conspiracy’s but will find hidden agenda’s and conspiracy’s in everything on the right.
They seem to lose their skepticism when ever politics comes up.

This isn’t meant for every one who has view leaning to the left just a couple of people.

13th April 2003, 01:23 PM
Originally posted by LukeT

So, it may be about oil. It may be about business. But at least the money will no longer go to Saddam.


Exactly....It will go to the Nazis of the 21 th century.

Segnosaur
13th April 2003, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by latinijral



Exactly....It will go to the Nazis of the 21 th century.

What, are you saying that the people of Iraq are really Nazis? That's really insulting.

ImpyTimpy
13th April 2003, 04:46 PM
I'm not a leftist but damn, talking about lack of skepticism... Oh the irony...

:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Baker
Its amusing hearing the lefts conspiracy theory’s they will complain about JK’s theory’s or other well known conspiracy’s but will find hidden agenda’s and conspiracy’s in everything on the right.
They seem to lose their skepticism when ever politics comes up.

Baker
13th April 2003, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by ImpyTimpy
I'm not a leftist but damn, talking about lack of skepticism... Oh the irony...

:rolleyes:



Well perhaps I was being a little too harsh.
However, you could explain your reply with a little more detail.
How am I showing lack skepticism?
I don’t know why I am bothering I get the felling this is just another hit and run attack.

ImpyTimpy
13th April 2003, 05:13 PM
Not necessarily you in this instance Baker, however there has been a demonstrated lack of skepticism by both sides, so claiming "left" isn't showing skepticism is ironic.

Also I think you meant to say feeling, not filling :D

Originally posted by Baker


Well perhaps I was being a little too harsh.
However, you could explain your reply with a little more detail.
How am I showing lack skepticism?
I don’t know why I am bothering I get the filling this is just another hit and run attack.

Baker
13th April 2003, 11:30 PM
Originally posted by ImpyTimpy
Not necessarily you in this instance Baker, however there has been a demonstrated lack of skepticism by both sides, so claiming "left" isn't showing skepticism is ironic.


Not to the same degree as the left besides I have seen you in threads speaking on the anti war side I would question if you are not on the left.
Its not as if you are not being bias here.


By the way I think you killed the thread.

ImpyTimpy
14th April 2003, 02:54 AM
Anti war = left? That's the biggest breakdown in skepticism I've ever seen...

Also I speak from the position of skepticism, that is I'm neither for nor against the war, I'd just like to see some proper evidence for the war.. That's pretty much the extent of my bias.

Originally posted by Baker


Not to the same degree as the left besides I have seen you in threads speaking on the anti war side I would question if you are not on the left.
Its not as if you are not being bias here.


By the way I think you killed the thread.

Smalso
14th April 2003, 03:18 AM
A "vast left wing conspiracy" is much more believable that a "vast right wing Conspiracy."

Jon_in_london
14th April 2003, 06:49 AM
Originally posted by LukeT
Can anyone even name one French, German or Russian company off the top of their head?

I assume you mean companies trading with Saddam? lets try Peugeot? Kalashnikov? MiG? just off the top o'ma heed.
But really there are/were lots of countries trading with Iraq including the Good ol' US of K.

Wondering what the fuss is re: Halliburton?

Because Dick Cheney used to work there and because he still gets ****-loads of money from them personally, and the republican party gets wads of cash from them too.

So isnt it strange that all the contacts have gone straight to Halliberry without any genuine legal tendering process?

Is this such a blatant "potential conflict of interest" case that you guys just cant see the wood for the trees?

When this kind of thing happens in third world countries, its called by a specific name. Corruption.

14th April 2003, 07:14 AM
Originally posted by Segnosaur


What, are you saying that the people of Iraq are really Nazis? That's really insulting.


No Seg....


People of Iraq are not nazis.....the nazis of the 21 th century are the invaders. The oil will belong to them.

Segnosaur
14th April 2003, 08:43 AM
Originally posted by latinijral



No Seg....


People of Iraq are not nazis.....the nazis of the 21 th century are the invaders. The oil will belong to them.
In that case, I suggest you pay a little more attention to news reports.

Money from Iraqi oil sales is to go into a special UN fund to be used for rebuilding Iraq.

WildCat
14th April 2003, 09:50 AM
Originally posted by Segnosaur
In that case, I suggest you pay a little more attention to news reports.

Money from Iraqi oil sales is to go into a special UN fund to be used for rebuilding Iraq.
Don't confuse latinjrl w/ the facts. After all, this is a guy who believes birds, umm, I mean ufo's, were behind the 9/11 attacks. :D

14th April 2003, 06:42 PM
Originally posted by Segnosaur

In that case, I suggest you pay a little more attention to news reports.

Money from Iraqi oil sales is to go into a special UN fund to be used for rebuilding Iraq.

Whta kind of news....the same sock puppets news like CNN.
I like to watch European TV.
Guess who is going to get the oil and exchange with expensive "things" ?????


P.S to "wildcat": WHat kind of argument???

WildCat
14th April 2003, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by latinijral

P.S to "wildcat": WHat kind of argument???
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