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PygmyPlaidGiraffe
13th April 2003, 06:49 PM
http://www.cbc.ca/disclosure/
Did Warlords murder Taliban soldiers that gave themselves up on the understanding that they would be given quarter?
U.S. forces had Effective Command Control of Afghanistan at the time of the alleged crimes. Did the US choose not to intervene in these atrocities?
http://www.cbc.ca/storyview/CBC/2001/11/30/uk_prisoners_011130 (http://www.cbc.ca/disclosure/archives/030408.html#afghan[/URL)
Richard Pearl says (paraphrase) that the US military would have preferred to have work with a mother Theresa, but they had to work with who was available (refering to Warlords with a history of brutality).
John Walker Lindh got through that situation with his life, but how many Taliban did not have that fortune?
[url]http://www.cbc.ca/news/features/walker_lindh.html
Physicians for Human Rights site:
http://www.phrusa.org/
Mel
13th April 2003, 07:01 PM
Don't tell me that we are supposed to feel sympathy for ANY murdered Taliban members?
Frankly, I'm glad the US saved the ammo plus let the Warlords have the satisfaction of revenge.
PygmyPlaidGiraffe
13th April 2003, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by PygmyPlaidGiraffe
http://www.cbc.ca/disclosure/
Did Warlords murder Taliban soldiers that gave themselves up on the understanding that they would be given quarter?
U.S. forces had Effective Command Control of Afghanistan at the time of the alleged crimes. Did the US choose not to intervene in these atrocities?
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Did the Geneva Convention apply to the Taliban that surrendered?
http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu3/b/91.htm
Doubt
13th April 2003, 07:32 PM
Originally posted by PygmyPlaidGiraffe
U.S. forces had Effective Command Control of Afghanistan at the time of the alleged crimes. Did the US choose not to intervene in these atrocities?
I read the first few links. I did not see anything that said the US had command and control of the Afghan troops. Do you really think the militia commanders were taking orders from the US troops? Do you have anything that can back up that statement?
From what I saw of the coverage, (I do watch the national on CBC a couple of times a week,) The militia commanders would attack where and when special forces told them. That is what they had to do to use our support and win. I don’t think special forces influence extended to actions off the battlefield since the militia commanders simply don’t need any help to do what they please.
What should the special force personnel have done about it? Threaten to leave? Would that have changed anything after for the better after the fighting ended?
a_unique_person
13th April 2003, 07:48 PM
Originally posted by Mel
Don't tell me that we are supposed to feel sympathy for ANY murdered Taliban members?
Frankly, I'm glad the US saved the ammo plus let the Warlords have the satisfaction of revenge.
Not sympathy, just following the laws of justice. The satisfaction of revenge is really a bloodbath, and the Warlords are no more entitled to kill than the Taliban. They are really no saints themselves.
Bjorn
13th April 2003, 08:24 PM
Originally posted by Mel
Don't tell me that we are supposed to feel sympathy for ANY murdered Taliban members?
Frankly, I'm glad the US saved the ammo plus let the Warlords have the satisfaction of revenge. Great.
If it should happen that US POWs are murdered by whoever is in control, I hope you'll apply the same logic. Or at least see that an eye for an eye goes both ways. :(
Earthborn
13th April 2003, 09:25 PM
I started a thread about this a while ago:
http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=14571
PygmyPlaidGiraffe
14th April 2003, 09:11 AM
Originally posted by Earthborn
I started a thread about this a while ago:
http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=14571
Thanks Earthborn.
A preliminary Assessment has been done, but PHR has recommendations.
http://www.phrusa.org/research/afghanistan/report_graves.html#14
Perhaps it is anticipated events like these that the US has opted out of being a participant in the world court.
Not to make a mountain of a mole hill but: the US Senate approved a law authorising use of force if a US citizen was held by the International Criminal Court in The Hague.
The move came as a former chairman of Amnesty International, Andrew McEntee, called for an independent investigation of claims that US troops tortured Taliban prisoners and assisted in the disappearance of thousands of others in Afghanistan.
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/06/13/1023864326176.html
Earthborn
14th April 2003, 09:39 AM
the US Senate approved a law authorising use of force if a US citizen was held by the International Criminal Court in The Hague.I know, it was pretty big news here. But don't worry, we're prepared: http://www.hogerhand.nl/home_e.html
Click on 'Hogerhand in Actie' to see photo's of our defensive measures. If that doesn't stop a US invasion nothing will! :D
PygmyPlaidGiraffe
14th April 2003, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by Earthborn
I know, it was pretty big news here. But don't worry, we're prepared: http://www.hogerhand.nl/home_e.html
Click on 'Hogerhand in Actie' to see photo's of our defensive measures. If that doesn't stop a US invasion nothing will! :D
They are way ahead of Canadians! lol
The Red Fatigue ought to throw off would be invaders
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