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Azrael 5
17th July 2005, 05:43 PM
Is the title of a "slot" on ITV show This Morning.Everday this coming week.Don't have any more details but I intend to set the video and report here! others may wish to do same.
Azrael 5
18th July 2005, 01:24 PM
Thanks for the interest people;)
Anyway here's the gist of the show,its a once a week thing and sadly it features Mia Dolan(our old stalwart Paj!)but happily a decent cynic.In the form of Dr David Lewis(you can google him),it actually went very well,he got in some good points;argued her version of her predictions and wiped the floor with her with his predictions based on personality test the subject filled in.
I will write more detail if there is any interest.But it was usual vague predictions"Health issues....travelling to Spain,blah blah"
How she can call herself psychic is a mystery.Five more weeks and viewers decide wether they think she is psychic.Guess what the outcome will be? :(
Bronze Dog
18th July 2005, 01:28 PM
I think, judging by personal experience (http://www.skepticreport.com/tools/topjref.htm), there's a typo in the title: Shouldn't it be "Psychic Is Cynic?"
But I digress.
Hope this skeptic succeeds in convincing the audience. I wouldn't bet on it, though.
Darat
18th July 2005, 01:45 PM
I'll set the box to record next weeks.
Azrael 5
18th July 2005, 02:13 PM
Ive emailed the producer of the show,but wether they respond is another matter! Mention of the London Bomb should be made from now on when dealing with Psychics(in UK at least)!
Trying to have someone mention Randi's challenge to her next week! :D
Ashles
18th July 2005, 04:40 PM
Originally posted by Azrael 5
Thanks for the interest people;)
I have interest. And my new shift next week will allow me to watch it. What time is the slot?
Anyway here's the gist of the show,its a once a week thing and sadly it features Mia Dolan(our old stalwart Paj!)but happily a decent cynic.In the form of Dr David Lewis(you can google him),
Shouldn't that be a sceptic?
it actually went very well,he got in some good points;argued her version of her predictions and wiped the floor with her with his predictions based on personality test the subject filled in.
I will write more detail if there is any interest.But it was usual vague predictions"Health issues....travelling to Spain,blah blah"
How she can call herself psychic is a mystery.Five more weeks and viewers decide wether they think she is psychic.Guess what the outcome will be? :(
Is there any phone-in element?
Interesting side point - psychic ability always seems vaguely protected by the facade of 'entertainment' it exudes.
It seems crass and 'not allowed' to mention serious issues like the bombing to these psychics because that is all too real.
Yet they are happy enough to make very real predictions and offer advice on people's lives.
I actually have a very real personal reason to despise fake psychics at the moment, but that will involve at least a lengthy post elsewhere, and really should warrant its own website. Sufficeth to say - anyone who pretends to know the future when they really don't is scum as far as I am concerned. Fraudulent leeches.
And believe me I want to write a whole load of worse words for you slime.
TheBoyPaj
18th July 2005, 05:42 PM
She seems very confident:
From her web site: (http://www.miadolanltd.com/media.htm)
Look out for me on This Morning, every Monday from 18th July '05 for all of July and August. I'm taking part in an experiment to prove that I am psychic.
Yep. "This Morning". Hotbed of cutting-edge, watertight research methods.
davidhorman
18th July 2005, 05:44 PM
I saw bits of it, though I got a support call just as the good stuff started :(
I guess it was too much to hope for any kind of double blind target pool test. They wouldn't be able to stretch that to five weeks.
David Lewis looks like a worthy opponent though :)
David
CurtC
18th July 2005, 09:41 PM
Originally posted by TheBoyPaj
Yep. "This Morning". Hotbed of cutting-edge, watertight research methods.Could you contact them and suggest proper controls? You could offer to be a consultant to them, and we could help!
andycal
19th July 2005, 01:41 AM
Originally posted by Azrael 5
Five more weeks and viewers decide wether they think she is psychic.Guess what the outcome will be? :( [/B]
This is the major problem with this sort of show - proof by voting. You can bet your life that in pubs around the nation people will be stating "It was proven on 'This Morning' that this psychic was real".
Most of the people watching that show will be the sort to be easily fooled by it, most sceptics will be at work doing real jobs...
Mid
19th July 2005, 04:12 AM
Originally posted by TheBoyPaj
...snip...
Yep. "This Morning". Hotbed of cutting-edge, watertight research methods.
What you mean their Viagra experiment of a few years ago wasn't submitted to a medical journal? :D
Still the segment sounds interesting and I think I will set my video for it next week.
Azrael 5
19th July 2005, 05:43 AM
Originally posted by CurtC
Could you contact them and suggest proper controls? You could offer to be a consultant to them, and we could help!
Done that.But it was a generic email address,I will try to find a direct address for someone.Mia Dolan is the worst example of "psychic" Ive ever seen! She bleats on that she was "tested" on TV and radio.What about the time where she was offered the Randi challenge(albeit by me)she blatantly lied and said she had applied!! Fat useless bint!
Ashley,I can find out the time I think it's around 11-11.30 on Mondays,it may not have a strict time slot though.There is an email address and phone number(cant find this at moment) mystory@thismorning.co.uk.viewers were asked to give their opinions.
when I get better details Ill post.:D
ETA: 0870 333 0550 and Link (http://www.itv.com/page.asp?partid=4068)
davidhorman
25th July 2005, 04:53 AM
She was on again today, and she bombed.
David
Blue Bubble
25th July 2005, 06:11 AM
Originally posted by davidhorman
She was on again today, and she bombed.
David
Interesting choice of phrase ... did the police shoot her ?
Azrael 5
25th July 2005, 08:58 AM
Originally posted by Blue Bubble
Interesting choice of phrase ... did the police shoot her ?
She needs shooting.Just watched recording of this morning.How can the producers of this show pay her for drivel like this:"You are going to the dentist!" "The name Peter is relevant " and so on.Dr David Lewis could hardly hide his smug grin whilst Mia must have felt like running away! Get Randi on there and lets have a real test!!!:D
Ashles
25th July 2005, 09:04 AM
Bugger. I missed it again.
Come on Azrael - bit more detail would be fun. :)
John Jackson
25th July 2005, 09:52 AM
I occasionally watch “This Morning” if someone tips me off that they have some nonsense on.
What amazes me, is that they always pick the worst examples of psychics out there :D
They seem intent on promoting any stupid idea (see: Urine Therapy (http://www.itv.com/page.asp?partid=3602)) but do it really badly.
I saw Mia Dolan last week, and all she did was confirm that she has no ability (not even cold reading skills) whatsoever.
I didn’t see it this week. So yes please Azrael, a bit more info.
(Edited to fix link)
Azrael 5
25th July 2005, 10:18 AM
Oh I see.. now you want more info.From memory-hopefully someone else can help as I taped over it!!
What happens is this Joe Public(JP) has a face to face with Mia and Dr Lewis weeks prior to live show .Dolan looks into JP's aura and writes down some impressions/predictions.
Live studio where JP is on a screen feed from elsewhere,and has to say wether statements that are read to her from Mia Dolan's prior prediction mean anything!
Usual vague garbage,"Dentist visit..a recent filling.Health issues,period pains,headaches.Name of Peter...You are married or in long term relationship(hit on latter)."
After each single prediction JP is asked if its correct.As David Horman said she bombed in spectacular fashion today getting about two hits.Not even "womens problems" helped her!
Dr Lewis has his turn based on some personality test from America(not sure if JP fills one out at face to face) and gets considerable hits.He stresses this is based on the test.
Hope that helps.I think Darat was going to tape it so maybe later more info will emerge.I must ring the researchers of that show and get them to ask her about Randi! :D
John Jackson
25th July 2005, 10:31 AM
Thanks Azrael.
It will be interesting to see whether the TM viewers decide that she’s psychic or not. I’ll contact them about Randi’s challenge too.
I doubt that it will be mentioned. I predict that if it is, she will not take it :D
Ashles
25th July 2005, 10:35 AM
Thanks.
I ould imagine Randi is a banned subject on This Morning. Imagine how many of their guests would get offended if you asked them for evidence.
They give way too much time to psychics, astrologers, health faddists and other related nonsense.
Still at least it allows me to have a reason for shouting at the TV.
davidhorman
25th July 2005, 11:00 AM
You are married or in long term relationship(hit on latter)."
Mia quite definitely stated only that she was married. JP, apparently feeling sorry for her, offered that up, but was otherwise completely sceptical.
Oh yeah, last week's JP was told she wanted to work in media or music, which she denied. But since then, that JP phoned in to say although she's training as a lawyer, she wants to specialise in music or media. Funny how that didn't occur to her during the live session last week!
David
Azrael 5
25th July 2005, 11:26 AM
Originally posted by davidhorman
Mia quite definitely stated only that she was married. JP, apparently feeling sorry for her, offered that up, but was otherwise completely sceptical.
Oh yeah, last week's JP was told she wanted to work in media or music, which she denied. But since then, that JP phoned in to say although she's training as a lawyer, she wants to specialise in music or media. Funny how that didn't occur to her during the live session last week!
David
Oops Im retro fitting facts,lol.JP offered long term relationship! WHy did last weeks suddenly decide she was sudddenley in music and media? Odd.I notice they didnt read out my email I sent.No-one replied neither.Im getting on the phone this week.
John Jackson Mia already claimed to have applied for Randi's challenge on her web forum(now defunct) Himself posted to state she was lying.Not heard anything since.Although she cant wait to claim she has been tested on TV and by some unknown University!! ;)
Temp3st
25th July 2005, 04:51 PM
Looks like more Mia crap is on the way -
IS A GHOST HUNTING YOUR HOME?
Haunted homes a brand new series for ITV.
We are looking for family's living with paranormal activity.
Is something strange happening to you or your family?
Then let psychic Mia Dolan and our other top experts help.
Contact Gemma on 02087417198 or gemmachapman@septemberfilms.com
22 July ,Daily Mirror.
Azrael 5
25th July 2005, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by Temp3st
Looks like more Mia crap is on the way -
IS A GHOST HUNTING YOUR HOME?
Haunted homes a brand new series for ITV.
We are looking for family's living with paranormal activity.
Is something strange happening to you or your family?
Then let psychic Mia Dolan and our other top experts help.
Contact Gemma on 02087417198 or gemmachapman@septemberfilms.com
22 July ,Daily Mirror.
Oh..I'll be conatcting you Gemma,don't you worry.;)
Diabolos
8th August 2005, 07:51 AM
Saw this codswallop for the first time this morning. (Thanks to Azrael for pointing me to this thread after I mistakenly started a new topic for it).
Have to agree Dolan is a poor example of a cold reader. But I also think the cynic (David Lewis) could be much harder on her when she's obviously guessing or using previously gleened information. He seems to want to come across as Mr. Nice Guy so seems to be holding back in his criticism.
The other thing that was irritating was the presenters who make it obvious that they're on the side of the psychic.
As an aside, she runs out of a company called Mia Dolan Limited (reg. number 03947899). As limited company accounts is publically available information, it would be interesting to find out how much she "earns" from her psychic ability. Not that I'm suggesting that anybody should go to companies house (http://www.companieshouse.gov.uk) website, order the accounts and then publish the figure here, of course. That would be just plain wrong.
Darat
8th August 2005, 08:04 AM
Forgot to record it today but have just downloaded the accounts, I'll post relevant stuff in a few minutes once I've read them.
To June 2004
Activities
The company’ principle activity is the world-wide promotion of Mia Dolan, international psychic.
Directors
M Dolan
M G Parrett
Dividends
Interim dividends of £33,500 were paid during the year, no final dividend is proposed.
The total turnover for the year was £42,048, with a cost of sales a grand total of £0. The directors took the interim dividends and with the previous years loss taken into account the company ended up making a loss of £10,326.
Diabolos
8th August 2005, 09:00 AM
Nice work Darat (not that I condone posting the figures, obviously :D ).
Expected a bit more, given her TV work. But I guess she's not yet a big name star. Still, it's not bread line income, either.
Darat
8th August 2005, 10:22 AM
Originally posted by Diabolos
Nice work Darat (not that I condone posting the figures, obviously :D ).
Expected a bit more, given her TV work. But I guess she's not yet a big name star. Still, it's not bread line income, either.
This company may not be her only income.
TheBoyPaj
8th August 2005, 10:29 AM
But if she has no costs, where is all the money going?
Darat
8th August 2005, 10:32 AM
Originally posted by TheBoyPaj
But if she has no costs, where is all the money going?
To the directors, the money is being paid out via dividends, I assume it’s the most tax efficient way for her to take the money.
TheBoyPaj
8th August 2005, 10:37 AM
But she's not claiming any costs at all? Not for her (admittedly rubbish) web site? Or phone calls? Post-it notes?
Blimey. Every penny that these poor saps spend on her idiotic "services" goes straight into her personal bank account. What a racket.
Darat
8th August 2005, 10:44 AM
Originally posted by TheBoyPaj
But she's not claiming any costs at all? Not for her (admittedly rubbish) web site? Or phone calls? Post-it notes?
Blimey. Every penny that these poor saps spend on her idiotic "services" goes straight into her personal bank account. What a racket.
Oh sorry get what you mean. The £0 cost of sales just means she isn't paying anything for what she sells e.g. herself. There are other items in the accounts such as just over £10,000 to creditors, she doesn’t have to file very detailed accounts but it looks as if the business is costing around £12,000 a year and I assume that will be made up of rent, rates, computer equipment probably her website and the like.
John Jackson
8th August 2005, 01:18 PM
I saw it this morning too. It was a great example of how a believer makes it very easy for the psychic to perform.
The woman today was extremely compliant and did not contradict anything that either the psychic or even the skeptic (psychologist Dr. David Lewis) said. She found meaning in everything.
It would have been nice if the psychologist were given an opportunity to explain what subjective validation is though.
When you have a believer in front of you who will find meaning in anything you say, then you can’t fail. I might become a psychic; it looks like an easy way to make money.
Azrael 5
8th August 2005, 03:49 PM
Even the psychologist seemed impressed at one prediction
"I see a statue of a bird,or a painting.An orange bird,I think"
Woman"I have a parrot..in fact I have an aviary.One parrot is yellow(or she might have said orange)"
Where was the statue? The painting? Dr David Lewis hang your head....;)
John Jackson
8th August 2005, 04:51 PM
Exactly! Focus was placed on the word "bird".
Mia Dolan never said that the sitter kept birds or had a Parrot.
Near the end Mia said to the sitter something like: "you have a troublesome watch that keeps stopping".
Sitter: "Yes, my watch stopped yesterday". :D
I didn't record it so that's not verbatim, but that's the type of subjective validation that went on.
Diabolos
9th August 2005, 02:45 AM
Originally posted by John Jackson
Exactly! Focus was placed on the word "bird".
Mia Dolan never said that the sitter kept birds or had a Parrot.
Near the end Mia said to the sitter something like: "you have a troublesome watch that keeps stopping".
Sitter: "Yes, my watch stopped yesterday". :D
I didn't record it so that's not verbatim, but that's the type of subjective validation that went on.
And nobody there seemed to link the predictions of the bird and troublesome watch with the fact that Dolan met up with the woman a few weeks earlier. The term "warm reading" comes to mind. I also seem to recall there was a prediction to do with stress, and both Dolan and the psychologist got this right. But the woman admitted she suffered from IBS, so again warm reading comes to the rescue.
tonyyouens
9th August 2005, 04:26 AM
As I was off work last week I tuned in to see Mia Dolan perform. Not only was she a pretty poor example of a supposed psychic but the presenters irritated the hell out of me by constantly proping up her dismal efforts.
Apart from the obvious lack of real protocol they didn't even have the courage to point out just how non-psychic she was.
I was moved to write about it on my own site.
See hereMia Dolan (http://www.tonyyouens.com/Commentary030805.htm#dolan)
Tony Youens
Ceinwyn
9th August 2005, 04:43 AM
Did any British psychics predict the subway bombings?
My research turns up "No."
Useless bunch. As punishment, they should be made to slick Acorah's hair.
Diabolos
9th August 2005, 04:49 AM
Originally posted by tonyyouens
As I was off work last week I tuned in to see Mia Dolan perform. Not only was she a pretty poor example of a supposed psychic but the presenters irritated the hell out of me by constantly proping up her dismal efforts.
Apart from the obvious lack of real protocol they didn't even have the courage to point out just how non-psychic she was.
I was moved to write about it on my own site.
See hereMia Dolan (http://www.tonyyouens.com/Commentary030805.htm#dolan)
Tony Youens
Great article.
tonyyouens
9th August 2005, 04:50 AM
Did any British psychics predict the subway bombings?
Not yet but I'm sure they will eventually.
Tony Youens
Diabolos
9th August 2005, 04:52 AM
Originally posted by Ceinwyn
Did any British psychics predict the subway bombings?
My research turns up "No."
Useless bunch. As punishment, they should be made to slick Acorah's hair.
Ditto for the Tsunami, 9-11, etc. And don't get me started on Acorah.
Ceinwyn
9th August 2005, 05:09 AM
Originally posted by Diabolos
Ditto for the Tsunami, 9-11, etc. And don't get me started on Acorah. "but I'm feeling...can I say this? I'm feeling...it's as if...thank you sam...I'm feeling there is a woman, yes and she was...sorry Yvette but...can I say this? She was MERDERED."
Yeah, ok.
John de Combe
9th August 2005, 07:16 AM
Originally posted by Ashles
I ould imagine Randi is a banned subject on This Morning.
The sad thing is that 30 years ago Granada TV (who make This Morning) called in James Randi to help with an edition of World In Action presented by Mike Scott that was debunking Psychic Surgery in Manila.
These days Granada will show any old woo as long as it gets ratings.
Darat
9th August 2005, 07:29 AM
Originally posted by John de Combe
The sad thing is that 30 years ago Granada TV (who make This Morning) called in James Randi to help with an edition of World In Action presented by Mike Scott that was debunking Psychic Surgery in Manila.
These days Granada will show any old woo as long as it gets ratings.
It's even worse then that - don’t forget they were behind the TV series, "James Randi: Psychic Investigator"!
Diabolos
9th August 2005, 07:52 AM
Something else I've just remembered from this weeks show: In trying to explain why she's currently scoring worse than the psychologist in the number of hits she's got right, Dolan said something like "I didn't reveal everything I sensed because some of it was too personal".
This was effectively before reading this weeks person, and from now on she would "just go for it."
Strangely, it didn't help her much (except for the person being read who found meaning in everything).
Azrael 5
9th August 2005, 04:57 PM
I emailed the show on two occasions with no reply.Mia Dolan is an actress from what Im told by webmaster of SNW forum(dunno if he means literally)and for someone who believes in such things to dismiss her she must be bad.
As someone who was responsible for the closure of her forum,I wish to go further and ruin her career!!
:D
Diabolos
10th August 2005, 01:23 AM
Originally posted by Azrael 5
As someone who was responsible for the closure of her forum,I wish to go further and ruin her career!!
:D
Agree with the sentiment, but it won't be easy to overpower "True Believer Syndrome". People like Geller, Van Pragh, Popoff have all survived and prospered despite continuous debunking. Even being totally crap doesn't seem to make a difference, as Dolan/Acorah. etc. illustrate.
Wish we could think of an effective way of dealing with these people.
Matabiri
10th August 2005, 09:48 AM
Originally posted by Azrael 5
ETA: 0870 333 0550 and Link (http://www.itv.com/page.asp?partid=4068)
From that link:Due to the accuracy of her readings, she has been called to the scenes of criminal investigations, including the murders of Jill Dando and Rachel Nickell...
Was she? By whom? Shouldn't ITV be told if their guest is lying to them?
(Note: She weaselly says "called to the scene", which doesn't necessarily mean that she was there while the police were...)
ETA: Ah! (http://isbn.compman.co.uk/0007154518_The_Gift_The_Story_of_an_Ordinary_Woman s_Extraordinary_Power.asp) "the book describes Mia's most unusual and intriguing readings: predictions she made for "The Sun" and "The Daily Mirror" about Princess Diana and her experiences at the scenes of the deaths of Jill Dando and Rachel Nickell for "The Daily Mail"" Even so, shouldn't ITV be told their guest was called in by a newspaper, not by the police?)
ETA2: I e-mailed them to say,
"Dear This Morning,
On the webpage advertising your slot "Psychic/Cynic", Mia Dolan's short biography claims that "due to the accuracy of her readings, she has been called to the scenes of criminal investigations, including the murders of Jill Dando and Rachel Nickell". A little cursory research shows that she was asked to those scenes, not by the police, as one might infer from the wording, but by the Daily Mail. This is evidence of credulousness on the Daily Mail's part, not accuracy on Mia Dolan's part.
Could you perhaps ask her if she claims to have ever assisted the police, and if she does, check her claim with the police force in question? Otherwise, please remove this gravely offensive and misleading claim from your website."
tonyyouens
10th August 2005, 10:54 AM
Could you perhaps ask her if she claims to have ever assisted the police, and if she does, check her claim with the police force in question? Otherwise, please remove this gravely offensive and misleading claim from your website.
Bloody well said. But looking at Richard Bacon's aura I notice there's a lot of indigo which means he doesn't give a toss!
Tony Youens
Temp3st
10th August 2005, 11:02 AM
Originally posted by Azrael 5
As someone who was responsible for the closure of her forum,I wish to go further and ruin her career!!
:D
That would be 'partly' responsible Azrael ;)
Azrael 5
10th August 2005, 11:26 AM
Originally posted by Temp3st
That would be 'partly' responsible Azrael ;)
Apologies.:p
Whats betting ITV don't reply to your email Matabiri.;)
Matabiri
11th August 2005, 02:19 AM
Originally posted by Azrael 5
Whats betting ITV don't reply to your email Matabiri.;)
Pretty good odds, I reckon. And I doubt Richard Bacon will even see it.
Roughly what time's the slot on This Morning, anyway?
tonyyouens
11th August 2005, 03:41 AM
Roughly what time's the slot on This Morning, anyway?
Two weeks ago it was around 12 noon and I think it was probably the same this time. It's only on Mondays.
Tony Youens
Azrael 5
11th August 2005, 04:17 AM
Around 11.30 Mondays.
tonyyouens
12th August 2005, 02:01 AM
If there's one thing I hate doing it's transcribing television dialogue, but I couldn't resist doing it again.
I've commented on Monday's show, my main motivation being that Mia apparently did better this time.
'This Morning' II (http://www.tonyyouens.com/Commentary030805.htm#dolan2)
Tony Youens
Ashles
12th August 2005, 04:03 AM
Originally posted by tonyyouens
If there's one thing I hate doing it's transcribing television dialogue, but I couldn't resist doing it again.
I've commented on Monday's show, my main motivation being that Mia apparently did better this time.
'This Morning' II (http://www.tonyyouens.com/Commentary030805.htm#dolan2)
Tony Youens
Thanks Tony - I missed it again so it's nice to see what this frau- amazing woman actually had to say.
BTW saw you on 'Paranormal?' on National Geographic. Good show, nice one.
tonyyouens
12th August 2005, 04:44 AM
BTW saw you on 'Paranormal?' on National Geographic. Good show, nice one.
Thanks! I'm going to write it up sometime soon, just waiting for some stuff fom NG.
I think it went out in the US around 8th August where it's called "Is it real?" 'Animal Oracles'.
Cheers,
Tony
Matabiri
12th August 2005, 05:02 AM
Originally posted by tonyyouens
Bloody well said. But looking at Richard Bacon's aura I notice there's a lot of indigo which means he doesn't give a toss!
I've just read your commentaries. Bacon does sound almost uniquely evangelical about the egregious Mia. What's she doing for him behind the scenes?
Azrael 5
12th August 2005, 05:41 AM
Every week I keep thinking I will ring This Morning and point out a few facts to the researchers.But then apathy takes over,as is the thing when promoting skepticism.A quote from Ian Rowland springs to mind about nailing jelly to the ceiling(doesnt work and is frustrating).
Having had a ten page discussion on SNW forum about Ouija boards,how true that phrase is!!! ;)
Ersby
22nd August 2005, 04:49 AM
Saw it today. There was no reading since it was the last one, and they're deciding their scientific experiment with a phone vote.
I have to say their sceptic is a bit of a sack of potatoes. When Bacon offered "your watch will stop" as an example of a specific hit, he didn't mention this is a pretty stock phrase nor that there was a four week window for the prediction to come true. When faced with examples of Mia's hit, he could have replied with specific misses (he said he'd read the transcripts of all the readings) but he didn't. Instead, he went down the old road of saying they were "lucky guesses": an argument that doesn't really convince unless you put it into context.
Diabolos
22nd August 2005, 05:30 AM
Today was the last of the 6 week "experiment" in which the final decision was left to a phone vote:
Results: Believers 62%, Non-believers 38%.
Bacon (the presenter) did admit that this was not a scientific test.
Interesting bits from today's show:
[list=1]
Dolan claimed that ALL of her predictions that were misses will still come true.
And that she'd be willing to bet a lot of money on it (but nobody made her commit to this).
She also castigated the phone psychics saying they cause emotional damage to people (irony?)
Lewis (the psychologist) remained completely unconvinced, pointing out all the generalisations.
Lewis stated that the 62% pro vote is in line with the number of believers generally
And that believers are both more likely to vote and watch TV shows like this.
[/list=1]
Now I expect Dolan's site to be updated to show off her "triumph".
laura
22nd August 2005, 05:48 AM
I only caught the tail end of all this..the thread and the TV prog. i didnt see the previous six weeks.
i think that you will continue to be ignored by the producers. I have e-mail Richard and Judy over similar items on their progs...to no avail.
The proggramme makers look only to their demographics. if you look at the womens magazine market in the UK,you will find the same level of drivel. Even psychic problem pages.."what does my dead grandad have to say about my new relationship ?" etc etc
what matters to them is viewer numbers not balance...still it won`t stop me e-mailing them....or people who sell "ghost viewers" on e-bay....just to annoy them at the very least.
Ps can you put a spell checker in here please..as i cant spell for tofffeees
tonyyouens
22nd August 2005, 06:31 AM
When Bacon offered "your watch will stop" as an example of a specific hit
I haven't seen this week's programme yet, but hopefully I've recorded it. Last week Mia actually said that there was a gift of a watch from his father, it was Clint, the volunteer, who then mentioned about telling his father that it had been broken two weeks earlier. Mia then claimed this as a hit - which it wasn't.
Fobbing us off with a phone vote to determine the outcome just about sums up this sorry excuse of a test. ITV should be ashamed - but they won't be.
Tony Youens
John Jackson
22nd August 2005, 07:49 AM
ITV’s “This Morning” is a magazine format programme aimed at a female audience. Like many such programmes and magazines, it heavily promotes all things alternative and psychic.
They have promoted such things as iridology, a psychic “toe reader”, belief in angels, urine therapy, past-life regression, etc.
Now, if that’s catering to their target audience, it seems rather strange that Mia Dolan didn’t manage to score higher than 62%. If that’s the general level of belief anyway (one would think that TM’s audience’s belief would be higher if their demographics are correct), then Mia has not done well at all. In fact, that’s less than I was expecting.
I think that Mia knew that she could not fail the “test” on a programme like This Morning and the whole stunt was nothing more than a publicity exercise.
I wonder how much mileage she’ll get from it.
tonyyouens
22nd August 2005, 08:14 AM
I wonder how much mileage she’ll get from it.
A 'source' tells me Mia claims her phone hasn't stopped ringing.
Tony
Ersby
22nd August 2005, 08:33 AM
Originally posted by tonyyouens
Last week Mia actually said that there was a gift of a watch from his father, it was Clint, the volunteer, who then mentioned about telling his father that it had been broken two weeks earlier. Mia then claimed this as a hit - which it wasn't.
Tony Youens
Ah, I forgot that hits always grow with the telling. But the sceptic should've picked him up on that.
Azrael 5
22nd August 2005, 10:27 AM
Originally posted by tonyyouens
A 'source' tells me Mia claims her phone hasn't stopped ringing.
Tony
If I found her phone number it certainly wouldnt.:D
Tony drop me a PM.;)
tonyyouens
23rd August 2005, 05:59 AM
In case you missed the show I've done another, and final, write up.
Mia Dolan - the summing up (http://www.tonyyouens.com/Commentary030805.htm#dolan3)
Tony
Azrael 5
14th March 2007, 07:25 PM
Long forgotten thread I know,but I found a peformance of this on tape and have uploaded to You Tube.It's the first episode of the 6 and gives you an idea of how bad Mia Dolan is.
Other vids of Gordon Smith,Sharon Neill and a Hamilton Parker protege(cringingly bad) to follow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8eOxPnbdq0
Big Les
15th March 2007, 04:55 PM
What you mean their Viagra experiment of a few years ago wasn't submitted to a medical journal? :D
Still the segment sounds interesting and I think I will set my video for it next week.
Tell me that didn't involve Richard and Judy. :eye-poppi Somebody, please; bleach my brain :covereyes
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