U.S. finds buried mobile biological weapons labs In Iraq

[Jedi Knight]

US Marines find mobile biological weapons labs (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=32045) in Iraq used to make tons of poison.

Proof of Iraqi deception is complete and the US was proven right once again. It was impossible for the UN weapons inspectors to locate these labs since Saddam was deceiving the UN.

That deception, thankfully, is over, and the radical left needs to apologize for protecting the terror regime of Iraq and Saddam's claim of "innocence".

JK

[Incitatus]

Let's just wait 48 hours, ok?

[renata]

From your source

The troops found no chemical or biological weapons with the containerized labs, but soldiers recovered "about 1,000 pounds" of documents from inside the labs, which will be examined further, said Freakley.




Iraq has previously admitted to having mobile labs, but claimed they were for other purposes- food testing and seed processing.


There have been previous errors and rash assumptions

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/04/14/sprj.irq.labs/index.html


Last week, troops from the 101st Airborne found a stash of chemicals, which was investigated as possible nerve agents, but the material turned out to be pesticides, Freakly said. The United States will further examine the latest find, he said.

Recall also http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030411/ap_on_re_mi_ea/war_nuclear_find_6


Leaders of a U.S. Marine Corps combat engineering unit claimed earlier this week to have found an underground network of laboratories, warehouses and bombproof offices beneath the closely monitored Tuwaitha nuclear research center just south of Baghdad.


The Marines said they discovered 14 buildings at the site which emitted unusually high levels of radiation, and that a search of one building revealed "many, many drums" containing highly radioactive material. If documented, such a discovery could bolster Bush administration claims that Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) was trying to develop nuclear weaponry.

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The Vienna-based International Atomic Energy Agency, which has inspected the Tuwaitha nuclear complex at least two dozen times and maintains a thick dossier on the site, had no immediate comment.


But an expert familiar with U.N. nuclear inspections told The Associated Press that it was implausible to believe that U.S. forces had uncovered anything new at the site. Instead, the official said, the Marines apparently broke U.N. seals designed to ensure the materials aren't diverted for weapons use — or end up in the wrong hands.

...

Tuwaitha contains 1.8 tons of low-grade enriched uranium and several tons of natural and depleted uranium.


The uranium was inspected by the U.N. nuclear agency twice a year and was kept under IAEA seal — at least until early this week, when the Marines seized control of the site.






We will not know the purpose of these labs until they are thoroughly tested.

[ImpyTimpy]

Jedi, if your credibility wasn't so shot up I'd pity you but hey, you're good for a laugh. Did you even read the article?

Let's see:


the discovery of 11 mobile laboratories capable of biological and chemical uses
Ok, let's dismiss the fact that any lab is pretty much capable of biological or chemical uses and assume hey, we got them.. Reading on:


The troops found no chemical or biological weapons with the containerized labs, but soldiers recovered "about 1,000 pounds" of documents from inside the labs, which will be
So I guess they'll be using paper shreds as those deadly poisons hey?

It gets better....

Blix told the U.N. Security Council on March 7, "Several inspections have taken place at declared and undeclared sites in relation to mobile production facilities. Food-testing mobile laboratories and mobile workshops have been seen, as well as large containers with seed-processing equipment. No evidence of proscribed activities have so far been found."

So in fact they have inspected the said labs and found them to be perfectly normal... I guess the soldiers are more technically minded than hand picked inspection team members.

Next time read the actual article.

Originally posted by Jedi Knight
US Marines find mobile biological weapons labs (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=32045) in Iraq used to make tons of poison.

Proof of Iraqi deception is complete and the US was proven right once again. It was impossible for the UN weapons inspectors to locate these labs since Saddam was deceiving the UN.

That deception, thankfully, is over, and the radical left needs to apologize for protecting the terror regime of Iraq and Saddam's claim of "innocence".

JK

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by ImpyTimpy
Jedi, if your credibility wasn't so shot up I'd pity you but hey, you're good for a laugh. Did you even read the article?

Let's see:


Ok, let's dismiss the fact that any lab is pretty much capable of biological or chemical uses and assume hey, we got them.. Reading on:


So I guess they'll be using paper shreds as those deadly poisons hey?

It gets better....

So in fact they have inspected the said labs and found them to be perfectly normal... I guess the soldiers are more technically minded than hand picked inspection team members.

Next time read the actual article.



Protecting leftism won't stop the truth of these weapons labs from proving America, and every bullet fired in the war, from being right.

JK

[Tricky]

And no amount of evidence will ever get Jedi Knight to admit he was wrong, or prevent him from making laughably unsupported claims.

[Reginald]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


Protecting leftism won't stop the truth of these weapons labs from proving America, and every bullet fired in the war, from being right.

JK

What about the Iraqi bullets? Will they be proved right. Or are they leftist, these particular right bullets? In which case does that make them left and wrong? or right, if you look at them from a left perspective? And since there are not that many Iraqi bullets left anyhow, I guess that makes it alright.

If you see what I mean.

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by Tricky
And no amount of evidence will ever get Jedi Knight to admit he was wrong, or prevent him from making laughably unsupported claims.

There is a war, right?

JK

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by Reginald


What about the Iraqi bullets? Will they be proved right. Or are they leftist, these particular right bullets? In which case does that make them left and wrong? or right, if you look at them from a left perspective? And since there are not that many Iraqi bullets left anyhow, I guess that makes it alright.

If you see what I mean.

Well since you want to get into statistics, I think there have been a whole lot more leftist casualties in this war than any other. I say that because Iraq is a leftist terror state and their military was pretty much wiped out.

JK

[Sanamas]

If these mobile labs were intended for peaceful purposes, then why were they buried?

[Tricky]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


There is a war, right?

JK
You won't know until you read it on FrontPageMagazine.com, will you?:D

[jj]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


Protecting leftism won't stop the truth of these weapons labs from proving America, and every bullet fired in the war, from being right.

JK

What weapons? The closest your article says is "could be".

Your insistance, dishonest, unethical insistance that this it is "protecting leftism" to examine your hysterical ravings just makes you even more unfriends and exposes your paranoia to the world.

When I see "biological weaons discovered" and confirmed, and I see the report 48 hours later, I'll believe that we found some.

As an aside, I'm rather surprised we haven't found any yet.

[jj]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight
I say that because Iraq is a leftist terror state and their military was pretty much wiped out.

JK

As we've already reminded you that Iraq was a "National Socialist" state, we know that you've been reminded that Iraq was a RIGHT WING state.

So what we've done is wiped out a bunch of right wing soldiers. Somewhat annoyingly, it seems we can't find their fearful leaders.

I guess they're now "fearful right-wing extremists".

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by Tricky

You won't know until you read it on FrontPageMagazine.com, will you?:D

No, when wars occur in countries the leftist media worships as bastions of "diversity" and "multiculturalism", all I need to do is turn on the commie cable news in this country for the full scoop of everything that goes on. Ignoring the leftist slant of the news is important though, so that is accomplished by turning the volume down on my TV's remote control so I just get the pictures. The pictures are all I need for news, not leftist misinformation.

JK

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by jj


What weapons? The closest your article says is "could be".

Your insistance, dishonest, unethical insistance that this it is "protecting leftism" to examine your hysterical ravings just makes you even more unfriends and exposes your paranoia to the world.

When I see "biological weaons discovered" and confirmed, and I see the report 48 hours later, I'll believe that we found some.

As an aside, I'm rather surprised we haven't found any yet.

Oh, so you bought into the leftist explanation that those chemical and biological mobile weapons labs were part of Saddam's mobile restaurant Health Department? Gosh, since when did Saddam ever care for his people?

Only when leftists have to defend him, right? :rolleyes:

JK

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by jj


As we've already reminded you that Iraq was a "National Socialist" state, we know that you've been reminded that Iraq was a RIGHT WING state.

So what we've done is wiped out a bunch of right wing soldiers. Somewhat annoyingly, it seems we can't find their fearful leaders.

I guess they're now "fearful right-wing extremists".

Not true. Socialist = leftist = Marxist = commie.

JK

[jj]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


Oh, so you bought into the leftist explanation that those chemical and biological mobile weapons labs were part of Saddam's mobile restaurant Health Department? Gosh, since when did Saddam ever care for his people?

Only when leftists have to defend him, right? :rolleyes:

JK

Why must you constructively lie by attempting to build false positions for me?

I once again require that you admit I am not a leftist.

Why must you repeatedly and dishonestly lie about your opponents? It is bad enough that you scream "biological weapon", "nuke", etc, repeatedly and are then shown to be wrong.

I think in years past you shouted "wolf, wolf", it's just that you do it one worse and insult the people who come out to hunt the wolf when you start screaming.

[jj]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


Not true. Socialist = leftist = Marxist = commie.

JK

So, Hitler was a "commie"? He most certainly was a "national socialist", you know.

Get help. Soon. You're a danger to yourself and everyone on the right.

[ImpyTimpy]

You mean the article you qouted is leftist??? Aaaarghhh! I'm melting!!!!

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


Oh, so you bought into the leftist explanation that those chemical and biological mobile weapons labs were part of Saddam's mobile restaurant Health Department? Gosh, since when did Saddam ever care for his people?

Only when leftists have to defend him, right? :rolleyes:

JK

[Aardvark_DK]

Originally posted by jj
Why must you repeatedly and dishonestly lie about your opponents?
God tells him to?

[jj]

Originally posted by Aardvark_DK

God tells him to?

I don't know. I can't say that I know his take on the existance of a deity.

Maybe it's Rush?

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by jj
I don't know. I can't say that I know his take on the existance of a deity.

Maybe it's Rush?

You aren't a very bright one, are you? I believe in The Force, as all Jedi do.

JK

[jj]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


You aren't a very bright one, are you? I believe in The Force, as all Jedi do.

JK

Right. Sorry, but you're just not Anakin, let alone Darth.

[ImpyTimpy]

Can you say kook?

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


You aren't a very bright one, are you? I believe in The Force, as all Jedi do.

JK

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by jj


Right. Sorry, but you're just not Anakin, let alone Darth.

No, I am much, much more proficient than they could ever dream of being.

JK

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by ImpyTimpy
Can you say kook?



Leftist hate.

JK

[ImpyTimpy]

I'm not a leftist... I'm just a kook hater and part of a kook hate group... That's according to YOUR OWN words JK.

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


Leftist hate.

JK

[ImpyTimpy]

Can you control boxing matches using this "Force"?

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


No, I am much, much more proficient than they could ever dream of being.

JK

[Crossbow]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


You aren't a very bright one, are you? I believe in The Force, as all Jedi do.

JK

Wow JK, you really like to reduce complex, real-life situations into simple ideas that can be easily labelled.

Much like Hollywood does with those movies you love so much (The Matrix, Star Wars, X-Men, etc.).

Huh, imagine that?

[schplurg]

Wow this thread got derailed fast! I count maybe 5 posts that are actually on topic, then the stupidity and name calling begins.

Sanamas brought up a good point that got lost in all this bulls**t:

If these mobile labs were intended for peaceful purposes, then why were they buried?
Also, the labs Blix was talking about that turned out to be "innocent" are not the same ones that were found yesterday. If they were, how would Blix even know that they were the same ones? I guess everyone should read a bit more carefully! Talk about the pot and the kettle!

:mad:

[Bjorn]

Originally posted by schplurg
I guess everyone should read a bit more carefully! Talk about the pot and the kettle!

:mad: Yep, maybe we should.

However, the JK version is quite different from e.g. New York Times. A couple of quotes:

The expert said, however, that much of the equipment could be used for multiple purposes, some peaceful, some not. One member of the team said it was difficult to tell what Iraq had intended to do with the equipment, which appeared to be new. The expert said the containers did not seem to be mobile laboratories. My point is that this is very far from JK's initial statements about how US Marines find mobile biological weapons labs in Iraq used to make tons of poison.

Not even his own source supported that. :p

[a_unique_person]

Originally posted by schplurg
Wow this thread got derailed fast! I count maybe 5 posts that are actually on topic, then the stupidity and name calling begins.

Sanamas brought up a good point that got lost in all this bulls**t:


Also, the labs Blix was talking about that turned out to be "innocent" are not the same ones that were found yesterday. If they were, how would Blix even know that they were the same ones? I guess everyone should read a bit more carefully! Talk about the pot and the kettle!

:mad:

The first 'chemical weapons' lab was also camoflauged. It may turn out that these are real labs, but it may also turn out to be another in a long list of false alarms.

[Lisa]

Thank you Schplurg. Let's get this thread back on topic a bit. There's a whole other folder for flames. (Love that avatar btw)
Who knows what they're going to find? Right now the main mission seems to be to stop the looting and not get shot at. As far as this latest report, I agree that the 48 hour test should apply. Right now, the coalition really doesn't have the time or manpower to search out anything, they're just lucky if they stumble upon something. Or, in the case of the weapon caches they've found, some helpful Iraqi decides he doesn't want that stuff in his neighborhood and points it out.

[Bjorn]

Originally posted by Lisa
Thank you Schplurg. Let's get this thread back on topic a bit. There's a whole other folder for flames. (Love that avatar btw)
Who knows what they're going to find? Right now the main mission seems to be to stop the looting and not get shot at. As far as this latest report, I agree that the 48 hour test should apply. Right now, the coalition really doesn't have the time or manpower to search out anything, they're just lucky if they stumble upon something. Or, in the case of the weapon caches they've found, some helpful Iraqi decides he doesn't want that stuff in his neighborhood and points it out. The 48 hour test was great from the start, and has become even better as we have seen 'sensations' boil down to 'oh, well'.

This last discovery seems about as promising as the average one .... :confused:

spellcheck

[Supercharts]

Originally posted by Sanamas
If these mobile labs were intended for peaceful purposes, then why were they buried?

Landfill? Part of the Iraqi government's re-cycling program?
Why is it we haven't discovered buried piles of re-cyclable plastic bottles? We get 5 cents for each here in the Peoples Republic of Massachusetts.

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by a_unique_person


The first 'chemical weapons' lab was also camoflauged. It may turn out that these are real labs, but it may also turn out to be another in a long list of false alarms.

Oh, like the Iraqi false-alarm that the US was going to invade their country?

JK

[Bjorn]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


Oh, like the Iraqi false-alarm that the US was going to invade their country?

JK No.

More like the underground nuclear facility that was reported (and posted here by you, by the way) five days ago.

Sort of a false alarm. :p

The real one can show up, but until now ... :(

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by Bjorn
No.

More like the underground nuclear facility that was reported (and posted here by you, by the way) five days ago.

Sort of a false alarm. :p

The real one can show up, but until now ... :(

There is an underground Iraqi nuclear facility.

JK

[Bjorn]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


There is an underground Iraqi nuclear facility.

JK Hehe. :p

We all wondered if that was true, five days ago. You seem to know it was/is. If you do, prove it. :confused:

Posting statements like this with no evidence whatsoever is only confirming your modus operandi, not the case you're supporting.

[The Fool]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


There is an underground Iraqi nuclear facility.

JK

yes, and those evil geniuses have made it invisible.....Actually, any lab with a basement and a piece of radioactive material would qualify wouldn't it? But "underground nuclear facility" sounds a lot more "Dr Evil" much better description for getting conspiracy theorists horny...

On a serious note, the US seems to have gone very quiet on this issue. They have also gone very quiet on a lot of other claims (torture and executon of prisoners for example). So far Jedi you have accepted every single kooky claim to come out of Iraq....every single claim the minute it was published, even stuff published by "commie" press agencies.....without fail, ever single issue accepted immediately.... without any attempt to confirm them from other sources. I think you must have announced the finding of WMD at least four times (did anyone keep count?) Each time it proved to be wrong. With this sort of critical thinking skill I'm surprised you don't believe there are cities on mars...ooops:rolleyes:

[Megalodon]

Originally posted by Sanamas
If these mobile labs were intended for peaceful purposes, then why were they buried?

A good question. A mobile lab costs a Sh*tload of money. If you're thinking you might be able to make it through the war, you don't want them to be blown up by nasty things coming from the sky, and you hide them. If noone sees them, noone can destroy them.

Of course they could be used to manufacture WMD. But a couple of lab tests will be able to tell us that. So far the evidence for WMD is far from convincing.

I would guess that Powell could share those accurate documents and satellite imagery with the grunts on the ground :rolleyes:

[bangdazap]

Yet another unspupported claim widely spread to give the impression that Iraq hid it's forbidden WMD capacity.
It turns out that this buried lab equipment where for making conventional, not biologic weapons (hence the need to bury them):
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/04/15/sprj.irq.no.labs/index.html
The fact that the equipment containers where half-buried when they where found suggests they where buried quite recently and in a hurry (like, say, there was war on or something), after the UN inspectors left the country.