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Mojo
28th July 2005, 09:59 AM
I spotted this case (http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Ch/2005/1624.html) yesterday. That's this (http://www.harmoniser.com/) guy (http://www.harmoniser.com/ck/index.htm) against these guys (http://www.implosionresearch.com/), by the way.

I'm concerned here with the judge's statements: From paragraph 2
Imploded water is water that has been treated by a process that involves centrifuging.

Evidently it imparts certain beneficial properties to the water. This water can then be used to treat tap water, for instance, to give it beneficial properties including improved taste. And: from footnote about kinesiology
A form of muscle testing, originally developed in the 1950s in the USA designed to test muscle strength and mobility, but which has more recently been developed as a means to diagnose and treat illness and disease.

The judge seems to have taken these assertions to be established facts: no sign of the word "allegedly," for example.

Fortunately he was only dealing with the question of who owned the design of their devices, not whether they actually work.

Anyway, they've been tested by Roger Coghill. ;)

Deetee
28th July 2005, 10:14 AM
I find it sad that sales of this useless device have reached £2 million (the claim is for 10% sales royalties amounting to £200,000).

For once I hope the lawyers cream some decent profit off these scammers.

ETA: I also note that Dolly Knight, one of the manufacturers, "...holds a degree in Medicine and in Homeopathy and has cared for and healed many people and animals since the age of three."

She does not appear to be registered with the UK GMC as a practising doctor.

Regarding vortex energised water....
The natural world, which we are a part of, moves in a spiralling fashion. This is particularly obvious in shellfish, snails, antelope horns, pine cones and climbing plants such as clematis and ivy. In a more subtle way, all plants grow in a spiralling fashion always turning to face the sun. The DNA of all organisms forms a double helix spiral. Water flowing in a natural meandering river system forms whirls and eddies and never follows a straight path, and like all free falling objects, rain drops too, fall in a subtly spiralling motion.

This spiralling motion allows all life forms to become energetically charged and enables life on this planet to exist and evolve.


Yeah, right......

andBecause of the special water it contains, and its form, the Vortex Energiser acts as a cosmic antenna and amplifier which takes its energy directly from the Quantum Sea of Energy or Ether, a subtle form of energy which is all around us.

drkitten
28th July 2005, 11:40 AM
Originally posted by Mojo

The judge seems to have taken these assertions to be established facts: no sign of the word "allegedly," for example.



Were these facts in dispute?

Judges aren't typically expected to make judgements about "facts" that aren't in dispute, and in fact, it would in many cases be a rather serious breach of professionalism.

If I sue you for breaking my lucky crystal ball, and your defense is that, although your crystal ball was indeed lucky, you weren't the one who broke it, the judge would almost certainly just accept that the crystal ball under discussion was lucky.

Mojo
28th July 2005, 02:46 PM
Originally posted by Deetee
For once I hope the lawyers cream some decent profit off these scammers. Yes, it reminds me of what Ian Hislop said about the Hamilton/Fayed case a few years ago: it would have been nice if both sides had lost.