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Art Vandelay
7th August 2005, 02:51 PM
S397 was just passed by the Senate. If passed by the House and signed by Bush, it will prohibit all lawsuits against gun dealers, and exempt them from all record keeping and background check requirements.

At least, that's what the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence claims. They wouldn't lie, would they?

gnome
7th August 2005, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by Art Vandelay
S397 was just passed by the Senate. If passed by the House and signed by Bush, it will prohibit all lawsuits against gun dealers, and exempt them from all record keeping and background check requirements.

At least, that's what the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence claims. They wouldn't lie, would they?

I don't suppose you'd care to provide a link to such a statement? I happened to peruse their website and didn't find it. Which doesn't mean it isn't there, but since you saw it, it should be relatively easy to provide reference.

Bear in mind I'm not a huge fan of the Brady center.

Art Vandelay
7th August 2005, 08:48 PM
Phyllis N. Segal wrote an article printed in the Mercury News. As she was described as being the chair of the board of directors of the BCPGV, I think that it is reasonable to consider her to be speaking in that capacity.

Some quote from that article:

If the House of Representatives joins the Senate in passing this legislation and President Bush signs it, nobody involved in manufacturing, distributing or selling firearms will have to set foot in a civil courtroom...

Sen. Craig would have us believe that the bad apples among gun dealers will still be accountable under this new law, that there's no blanket immunity being thrown an entire industry. But he's either lying or misinformed. A letter to Congress from 75 legal scholars asserts that's exactly what this bill does
Ooh, 75 "legal scholars" claim it. It must be true.
:rolleyes:

Like the gun dealership that armed the Wahington, D.C., [sic] sniper by allowing some 200 firearms, including the one used by John Allen Muhammad and his partner, to disappear without required records or buyer background checks. Now we ask, why in the world does the Senate say that this is legally acceptable behavior that cannot be challenged by victims? Why in the world does the Senate say that this is morally acceptable behavior?Strawman, anyone?

Ranb
7th August 2005, 10:13 PM
Anyone who claims that all lawsuits against dealers and manufacturers would be prohibited by 397 is lying. Anyone who sells a gun to someone they know will commit a crime, negligent sellers, violating federal laws when selling guns, breach of contract or warranty, are not protected by this bill.

http://thomas.loc.gov/
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00000924----000-.html

I was not able to find any article written by Phyllis N. Segal, but it is no surprise that the Brady people still do not hesitate to lie.

http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/faqs/?page=awb

Yeah, I do not like the Brady Campaign at all.

Ranb