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luchog
23rd August 2005, 05:23 PM
Hanging out here has reminded me of something I was peripherally involved in a few years back.

My life partner has a son, EG, who has Asperger's Syndrome (for those not familiar with it, it's a form of high-functioning autism). He had problems in grade school, both for obvious reasons, and also because of teachers who had no clue how to deal with AS, and treated it like a behavioural problem. Not only that, but with what would be considered gross incompetance when dealing with behaviour problems. Eventually, one of them decided that EG had been abused; despite the fact that my partner had already informed the school that he had been diagnosed with AS.

The teacher decided to call Child Protective Services; who decided that there was no evidence of abuse; but since EG was a "special needs" child with a history of violent outbursts (common in adolescent AS children, particularly when bullied and mistreated by ignorant and overbearing adults), he was required to see a counsellor. My partner lived in a fairly secluded area, and being disabled herself, could not travel long distances to the city to see a good doctor. The only local source that the CPS-mandated program would pay for was a local "family counselling" clinic; with one counsellor who was supposedly experienced with AS and other Autistic spectrum disorders.

This was a program that was paid for through my partner's disability benefits and CPS funding. IE, the state government paid for it.

Here's where it gets fun. The counsellor, R, had no medical degree at all, not even in Psychology; but did have a BS in "social work". Her idea of dealing with the AS was not a program of teaching socialization and interpersonal and crisis management skills (which is how the legit medical world treats the disorder); she insisted that my partner enroll her son in a program to "teach his brain how to think".

I forget the exact name of the program that R pushed, but it was a minor variation on the Body Talk System (http://www.bodytalksystem.com/), gussied up with some scientific-sounding gibberish. Body Talk is the epitome of woo-woo medical garbage; a mish-mash of several different sources, including mystical Yoga and Applied Kinesiology. And she was getting government funding for this crap.

My partner, being an intelligent and skeptical person, recognized it for what it was, and refused to let this nutjob force her son into the program. What happened then felt like a bad movie. R then colluded with an actual doctor, who was also involved in the BodyTalk crap, to have EG "re-diagnosed". At the same time, she contacted CPS, claimed that my partner was being "uncooperative" about counselling for her son, and claimed she had evidence of abuse. EG was then forcibly removed by CPS. Fortunately, R's doctor associate was not able to get EG into the woo program, but did manage to make his "re-diagnosis" stick well enough to get EG institutionalized. On the good side, the institution was experienced with autistic spectrum disorders, and pretty well free of all the fluffy-bunny woo-woo crap. EG was released home after a typical short-term treatment program.

R was shortly afterwards asked to resign from the counselling center; and rumour was that it had to do with her involvement in woo-woo "treatment", this and similar incidents, and a subsequent funding cut. R claimed it was just because of the funding cut, but she was the only one "let go".

c4ts
24th August 2005, 07:53 AM
Good thing they let her go.

I nearly screamed the other day when some program on the History Channel explained that the government wasted millions on a remote viewing program (I hope they were exaggerating). Nowadays alternative medicine is the new budget sinkhole, ever since that senator thought bee pollen cured his allergies. The U.S. government would be a little more efficient if they didn't waste my tax dollars investing in woo.

geni
24th August 2005, 08:23 AM
Originally posted by c4ts
Good thing they let her go.

I nearly screamed the other day when some program on the History Channel explained that the government wasted millions on a remote viewing program (I hope they were exaggerating).

No stargate was real alright. The shear length of time for which it ran means it proably did cost millions. A fair number of the people offering to teach you remote viewing claim to be formor members of the project.

c4ts
24th August 2005, 08:03 PM
I can't blame our government for trying new things, but did they really have to keep it up for so long, without any credible evidence to support it in the first place???

It boggles the mind.

The Don
25th August 2005, 03:33 AM
Originally posted by c4ts
I can't blame our government for trying new things, but did they really have to keep it up for so long.....
Strategic Defense Initiative anyone ?

exarch
25th August 2005, 04:39 AM
Originally posted by luchog
I forget the exact name of the program that R pushed, but it was a minor variation on the Body Talk System (http://www.bodytalksystem.com/), gussied up with some scientific-sounding gibberish.
Notice how the first lines of a woowoo website always look similar to this:

WHAT IS BODYTALK? The BodyTalk Systemâ„¢ is a revolutionary new health care paradigm being used by thousands of people around the world.

You will never see genuine medical practices being "advertised" like that.

What is Insulin? It's a healthcare treatment used by millions of people around the world.

Instead you'll actually see explained what insuline really is, how it works, etc... instead of a typical vague and empty but impressive sounding sales pitch quietly urging you not to look to deep.