Biblical Asininity

[Johnny Pneumatic]

For the Bible literalists the first people, and sinners, were Adam and Eve. My question is this:

Why didn't God tell Adam and Eve to not have sex, Eve births Jesus; and Adam and Eve beat the crap out of him until he dies?

For the non-inerrantists:

Why didn't God tell Miss Ug to not have sex 150,000 years ago. Ug(would have been called Jesus if born in Israel and much later in history) would have the crap beat out of him by the other early humans until he dies.

How does a godman having the crap beat out of him wash away our sins anyway? Lets say this stupidity is true though, why so late in human history did Jesus come?

[ernon]

Originally posted by SkepticJ ...edited...
For the Bible literalists the first people, and sinners, were Adam and Eve. My question is this:

Why didn't God tell Adam and Eve to not have sex, For the non-inerrantists:

Why didn't God tell Miss Ug to not have sex 150,000 years ago.

Don't know about the rest of your question and I don't go to church so others might answer differently, but I believe that no modern dogma teaches that the Original Sin was sex anymore. I believe they dropped the "wink, wink, nod, nod, apple equals sex" interpretation a long time ago.


On a somewhat related vein, they (The Church) will also now need to revise their teaching about "Onan's Sin". It too, has been shown to be about Onan's disobediance to a direct command from God and not about masturbation as they were teaching. Darn, now they have no scripture to back up that ban, will all the children go blind?! Oh the humanity!

[Bikewer]

As I recall, Onan was guilty not of masturbation but premature withdrawl, after the big guy told him to get the girl preggers.

From my misty rememberings of Catholic youth, I seem to have it in mind that they were teaching that Original Sin was actually pride or at least hubris. "Eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge". In other words, wanting to become Godlike.

[Johnny Pneumatic]

Originally posted by ernon
Don't know about the rest of your question and I don't go to church so others might answer differently, but I believe that no modern dogma teaches that the Original Sin was sex anymore. I believe they dropped the "wink, wink, nod, nod, apple equals sex" interpretation a long time ago.


On a somewhat related vein, they (The Church) will also now need to revise their teaching about "Onan's Sin". It too, has been shown to be about Onan's disobediance to a direct command from God and not about masturbation as they were teaching. Darn, now they have no scripture to back up that ban, will all the children go blind?! Oh the humanity!

No, no, no. Eve wouldn't have sex that way there's no more sinners around than the original two.

The Original Sin is their taking a bite of the magical fruit. Honestly, how do modern people take this fairy tale crap as real?

[c4ts]

Most people see it as a story or a fable. Biblical tales are thought to have meaning other than being literally true. It creates a dichotomy between life as it is realistically understood and life in Bible-land. It's all right if snakes talk in Bible-land, but in the real world they don't actually speak. And while there is a God in both, the God in Bible-land is specific and interacts directly with people, while God in the real world is a lot more abstract. The only problem is you have the suspension of disbelief when it is supposed to be gone altogether.

[Johnny Pneumatic]

Originally posted by c4ts
Most people see it as a story or a fable. Biblical tales are thought to have meaning other than being literally true. It creates a dichotomy between life as it is realistically understood and life in Bible-land. It's all right if snakes talk in Bible-land, but in the real world they don't actually speak. And while there is a God in both, the God in Bible-land is specific and interacts directly with people, while God in the real world is a lot more abstract. The only problem is you have the suspension of disbelief when it is supposed to be gone altogether.


Jesus dying for man's sin isn't only in Bible-land to the major majority of Christians however. So my point about why wasn't Ug killed instead of Jesus? Why the delay? Surely prehistoric man was just as sinful as modern man? Maybe I should ask this question on a Christian forum, to see what they say?