On the news today...

[Skeptic]

A month after huge demonstrations in Gaza in favor of Saddam Hussein were conducted, as the war in Iraq started, today there are demonstrations again in the palestinian areas...

...protesting the capture of the freedom fighter Abbas by the evil, colonialist US. Abbas, like Saddam, is one of the "heroes of the palestinian people", it seems.

[Tony]

Are you surprised? Muslims in general, and palestinians in particular are the scum of the earth.

Sites with an alternative view of Islam. (http://www.geocities.com/ListIslam/)

[a_unique_person]

Originally posted by Tony
Are you surprised? Muslims in general, and palestinians in particular are the scum of the earth.

Sites with an alternative view of Islam. (http://www.geocities.com/ListIslam/)

why bother fighting a war to free them?

[a_unique_person]

Originally posted by Skeptic
A month after huge demonstrations in Gaza in favor of Saddam Hussein were conducted, as the war in Iraq started, today there are demonstrations again in the palestinian areas...

...protesting the capture of the freedom fighter Abbas by the evil, colonialist US. Abbas, like Saddam, is one of the "heroes of the palestinian people", it seems.

And when the anti-war demonstrations were on, there were plenty of people who were pro-war.

[Tony]

Originally posted by a_unique_person


why bother fighting a war to free them?

Call me crazy, but I think having a more freedom in the world would make the world a better place. I know this is politically incorrect and is never going to happen, but our goal should be to completly destroy the islamic culture and religion.

[Gem]

but our goal should be to completly destroy the islamic culture and religion.

Funny, they say the same thing about US.
Now ain't that hilarious or what?

I don't know a lot about the Bible or the Koran or the Torah (is that how it's spelled?). But look at christian history, and you'll see tons of bad stuff. Look at Islam, same thing.

If you want to destroy Islam, why don't you start putting the Muslim American in concentration camps? Or send em to Alaksa to drill for oil.

...protesting the capture of the freedom fighter Abbas by the evil, colonialist US. Abbas, like Saddam, is one of the "heroes of the palestinian people", it seems.

Let me tell you the difference between a "freedom fighter" and a "terrorist." The freedom fighter wins but the terrorist lose. Same with revolution/rebelion. If they win, it's a revolution. If they lose, it's a rebelion.
My opinion is that the "left" idiots and scums are trying to stop the vicious cycle, but fails miserably.

The "right" doesn't help much stop the cycle either.

Oh well, back to "Kill the infedels" or "Kill the pagans," whichever fits your boat.

Gem

[Tony]

Originally posted by Gem



If you want to destroy Islam, why don't you start putting the Muslim American in concentration camps? Or send em to Alaksa to drill for oil.




When did I say I wanted to kill muslims? Particuarlly American Muslims?

I said the islamic culture and religion.

[Gem]

I said the islamic culture and religion

I would think that Muslims in America are part of the islamic culture and religion. They just don't have as many in their clergy spouting hate like there is in the middle east.

The religion stuff is just an excuse. Just like the Christians did in the dark ages of Europe. The middle east is in it's dark ages, the previous empire have fallen, the current nations can barely stay together, and once the oil is gone, we might as well integrate the region with africa, there won't be much difference in terms of economic standing.

After the oil is gone, who will care about this place? I'd say people will care as much as they do about Africa right now.

Gem

[DrBenway]

Originally posted by Gem
The religion stuff is just an excuse.
No. It's the law of the land. Check out the Saudi constitution.

[Gem]

No. It's the law of the land. Check out the Saudi constitution.

Using the Koran as the excuse, I presume?

Gem

[DrBenway]

Originally posted by Gem
Using the Koran as the excuse, I presume?
Gem
I guess I don't understand what you mean by "excuse."

I generally think that when people say something is "just an excuse," they mean it's a post-hoc rationalization.

When religion is the foundation of jurisprudence for a society, it's a very serious matter.

[Tony]

Dr. B, Ive always enjoyed your posts on islam. You're well informed in that particular field. :)

[Smalso]

DrBenway:When religion is the foundation of jurisprudence for a society, it's a very serious matter.

Well said.

[Skeptic]

Are you surprised?

Not really, no.

[Skeptic]

Originally posted by a_unique_person


And when the anti-war demonstrations were on, there were plenty of people who were pro-war.

Funny, though, how we NEVER seem to see the multitudes of peace-loving, non-antisemitic, anti-Hussein palestinians AUP keeps assuring us exist--from 10,000 miles away in Australia.

Must be a media conspiracy of some sort.

[Skeptic]

Originally posted by a_unique_person


And when the anti-war demonstrations were on, there were plenty of people who were pro-war.

Funny, though, how we NEVER seem to see the multitudes of peace-loving, non-antisemitic, anti-Hussein palestinians AUP keeps assuring us exist--from 10,000 miles away in Australia.

Must be a media conspiracy of some sort.

[Ben Shniper]

Originally posted by Skeptic


Funny, though, how we NEVER seem to see the multitudes of peace-loving, non-antisemitic, anti-Hussein palestinians AUP keeps assuring us exist--from 10,000 miles away in Australia.

Must be a media conspiracy of some sort.

What are you talking about? Arafat and his cronies are very pro-peace. As long as Israel doesn't mind the fact that they direct and fund terrorism, and openly fight war against Israel peace is good (from the Israelis, not the Palestinians).

Just don't fight back.

-Ben

[Supercharts]

Hatred of Israel is the only unifying issue the various tribes and families have in the Middle East. If there was no Israel and no oil the Islamic governments in the Middle East would constantly be at war with one another.

[Smalso]

Originally posted by Supercharts
Hatred of Israel is the only unifying issue the various tribes and families have in the Middle East. If there was no Israel and no oil the Islamic governments in the Middle East would constantly be at war with one another.

Ha! Good point.