Randi is to Gellar as Phrost is to this guy

[Phrost]

This is a momentus occasion. In the pursuit of applying critical thinking and skepticism to the Martial Arts I've had your run of the mill death threats from Ninjas and Kung Fu cultists, but this is my first, 100% credible case of being... err "libeled".

For those of you (most, I imagine) who aren't familiar with some of the fruitcakes we have to deal with in the Martial Arts community, "Chrono" (the author of the following link) is nuttier than most.

Here's just a sample:

Saturday, October 02, 2004

I sincerely thank Sonic (AS IN THE HEDGEHOG --Phrost), Knuckles, Bunny, Tails, Katelina, Mary and all the others for donating energy to the Peace Time Project. I also thank Jesus Christ for helping me and my mother get along, something that not even the Peace Time Project could fix, but yet me and God and my mother alone.

Anyway, this kid wrote up a completely libeous "essay" complete with quotes from the bible and an invitation to spread it around to the rest of the internet.

I figured some of you would get a kick out of it, so I'm sharing:

http://kisanctuary.chaosmagic.com/peace.html

By the way, more of his stuff can be read at the Portal of Evil subforum dedicated to his thoroughly entertaining delusions:

http://friends.portalofevil.com/sfs.php?si=3&fi=000034178

And here's a link to a video of him "powering up", creatively set to music by the PoE guys. Yes, he really does think he can turn into a "Super Sayian" ala Dragonball Z:

http://www.bullshido.net/modules.php?name=Links&file=viewlinkinfo&id=161

[jj]

That's so familiar.

A guy on audio asylum sent me the following, along with a rather irate note about it (he wasn't irate about me).:

So maybe you WERE an expert......in something. But we don't know what it WAS. We do know you retired a few years ago, but we don't know why. Perhaps you were forced to retire for, say, malfeasance, incompetence, irrelevance, senilty, or falsifying data. Who knows?
But what is clear is you don't have the answers to any of the questions being asked here. I guess you're no really an expert anymore....


That's somewhere in http://www.audioasylum.com/audio/general/messages/397388.html

Addressed, it seems, to me.

The fellow who said this is a person who maintains that there is no evidence whatsoever, in any form, that double-blind tests work with music as stimulii.

I have very long ago pointed him at things like Fletcher's 1920's and 1930's tests, and at the MPEG tests that used exclusively musical stimulii. This can be seen (not that anyone wants to see it) on net news via google groups.

Somebody else has pointed him to a contemporary paper by Floyd Toole that is also conclusive on that issue.

He continues to insist that there is no proof, and repeatedly casts aspersions on the people who disagree.

[Phrost]

Yeah. You know it would almost be tragic if "woo" were wiped out. Somehow I don't think life would be as entertaining without B'leivers.

[Psiload]

Originally posted by Phrost
This is a momentus occasion. In the pursuit of applying critical thinking and skepticism to the Martial Arts I've had your run of the mill death threats from Ninjas and Kung Fu cultists, but this is my first, 100% credible case of being... err "libeled".

For those of you (most, I imagine) who aren't familiar with some of the fruitcakes we have to deal with in the Martial Arts community, "Chrono" (the author of the following link) is nuttier than most.

Here's just a sample:



Anyway, this kid wrote up a completely libeous "essay" complete with quotes from the bible and an invitation to spread it around to the rest of the internet.

I figured some of you would get a kick out of it, so I'm sharing:

http://kisanctuary.chaosmagic.com/peace.html

By the way, more of his stuff can be read at the Portal of Evil subforum dedicated to his thoroughly entertaining delusions:

http://friends.portalofevil.com/sfs.php?si=3&fi=000034178

And here's a link to a video of him "powering up", creatively set to music by the PoE guys. Yes, he really does think he can turn into a "Super Sayian" ala Dragonball Z:

http://www.bullshido.net/modules.php?name=Links&file=viewlinkinfo&id=161
Now that is one seriously confused young man.

[thaiboxerken]

Originally posted by Phrost
Somehow I don't think life would be as entertaining without B'leivers.

It's Bleevers, get it right. Well, without them, we could still find other people to have fun at.

[jmercer]

Great Googly-Moogly. I practice an art that's about as stupid as it gets for most people, because it's mostly taught by incompetents. In fact, it attracts woo like a lightbulb attracts moths at night.

I thought I'd seen all sorts of nutjobs, but this one is amazing. Poor kid.

Well, thanks for sharing, Phrost. Kudo's for patience, too. :)

[Palimpsest]

Originally posted by Phrost
http://kisanctuary.chaosmagic.com/peace.html

By the way, more of his stuff can be read at the Portal of Evil subforum dedicated to his thoroughly entertaining delusions:

http://friends.portalofevil.com/sfs.php?si=3&fi=000034178

And here's a link to a video of him "powering up", creatively set to music by the PoE guys. Yes, he really does think he can turn into a "Super Sayian" ala Dragonball Z:

http://www.bullshido.net/modules.php?name=Links&file=viewlinkinfo&id=161

I... I have no words. I'm speechless. I am without speech. Oh, wait, except:

Awwww, isn't just the cutest, with his li'l macho chin fuzz and three chest hairs!!! :D :D :D

[Kenny 10 Bellys]

Ah, beware the 'video camera posing in the bedroom' routine, that path leads to silliness.

This is one weird induhvidual, but as you well know the martial arts attracts all sorts for all the wrong reasons. One of the finest I met was while training in Ninjutsu (I was a teenage Ninja!) and the guy was awesome in his delusions. He went so far as to dress in nothing but black all the time, including black underpants, socks, sportsbag, car, everything. He was the weediest dude you ever saw too, useless at the art but living the role of international assassin to the hilt. The rest of us would train and then go across the road to the local pub and sit and have a pint in full ninja gear, meanwhile this guys handspringing off down the street to become 'one with the night'.

[Thomas]

Originally posted by Phrost
And here's a link to a video of him "powering up", creatively set to music by the PoE guys. Yes, he really does think he can turn into a "Super Sayian" ala Dragonball Z:

http://www.bullshido.net/modules.php?name=Links&file=viewlinkinfo&id=161
maya hi, maya ho, maya ha, maya HA HA..

He reminds me of the Star Wars Kid (http://www.screamingpickle.com/members/StarWarsKid/video_nolinking/Star_Wars_Kid_00.wmv). I would love to see a showdown between those two heroes. Check also this remake of the SWK. (http://www.screamingpickle.com/members/StarWarsKid/video_nolinking/UnderCover_SWK_00.wmv). Poor guys :)

[Bandersnatch]

He seems to have written a response to your most recent article on Bullshido, on his forums (http://s11.invisionfree.com/The_Ki_Sanctuary/index.php?showtopic=152&st=15).

OMG!!!!!
Did this actually happens???????!?!?!?!!!
"There's only one thing I can think of that can stop these Bullshidos dead in their tracks..."

*flies to Ki Sanctuary*

"You know why I'm here, old man...you have something I want."

Phrost then gets on his knees. "No...no please, Kevin...I'm begging you, don't hurt me!" Kevin picks him up by his neck. Phrost is begging for mercy. Kevin blows his breath on Phrosts' face, as he quivers in fear. "You know what I want...." he throws him down on the ground.

Phrost backs into a corner. Kevin speaks up in a growling voice, making his normal voice appear weak and frail. "You...you're NOTHING without all your members, fool." Phrost shivered. He knew his ass was going to be handed to him by the guy he pissed off.

"You piece of pathetic low-trash [rule 8]. You are less than the germs that cover the scum on your toes, and the [rule 8] on your toilet seat." Kevin picks up a fold-up chair and slams it into Phrost's head.

"Stop it! I don't want to fight you because you're so gorgeous!" Phrost cowers.

"Phrost, or should I say, 'Doctor Bullshido,' give it up, or I'll be back to pay you a visit next week. Hahahahaha...HAHAHAHAHA!" Kevin then teleports away. "I bet he's going to keep posting about me regardless, but WHO CARES?! He's a real crackup if he thinks his pathetic fighting style can defeat the arts of Shotokan and Tai Chi Chuan working together.."

Here (http://s11.invisionfree.com/The_Ki_Sanctuary/index.php?showtopic=152&st=41)

[Nex]

Originally posted by Phrost
...And here's a link to a video of him "powering up", creatively set to music by the PoE guys. Yes, he really does think he can turn into a "Super Sayian" ala Dragonball Z:

http://www.bullshido.net/modules.php?name=Links&file=viewlinkinfo&id=161
Oh. My. Bob.

I think I actually feel sorry for him.

Oh, no wait, that was just a little gas. Carry on. :D

[Phrost]

Originally posted by Bandersnatch
He seems to have written a response to your most recent article on Bullshido, on his forums (http://s11.invisionfree.com/The_Ki_Sanctuary/index.php?showtopic=152&st=15).

OMG!!!!!
Did this actually happens???????!?!?!?!!!


Here (http://s11.invisionfree.com/The_Ki_Sanctuary/index.php?showtopic=152&st=41)

Yes, I saw that. It did happen, on the "Astral Plane" (read: in his adolescent imagination).

We're trying to get in touch with his mother to inform her of his activities and the possible consequences of them.

[c4ts]

Just when I thought I'd played too many video games and watched too much TV, along comes this kid. He's like a furry only worse. And I didn't think it was possible!

[crimresearch]

And some of them actually collect enough students and get paid for their inanity to make a living at it.

[Phrost]

Originally posted by crimresearch
And some of them actually collect enough students and get paid for their inanity to make a living at it.

Yep. And if it weren't for this fact, we wouldn't care about him; outside of an occasional "haha look at this guy".

[c4ts]

I'm still amazed by how mind-boggling nutty this guy is. At first I thought all these names of video game characters he kept mentioning were account names of other people on the internet, but now it seems as he is referring to the actual characters as though they were real.

(edit)
I gotta mess with that video, though. Too funny, like the Star Wars Kid!

A few quotes from his site and message board...
http://kisanctuary.chaosmagic.com

Oh look, he's found the reason project Stargate collapsed:
One such technique, is Remote Viewing. Those experienced in Astral Projection, can project within the same plane that we stand, and use it to travel undetected in this world. The Government has funded several projects to research these powers. A good example is "Operation Stargate." This was an expensive project that began in 1970, in Fort Meade, Maryland, at the National Security Agency.

The project collapsed when the recruits started becoming ill and hospitalized for mental trauma. This goes to prove that using these arts for greed and for evil, never goes unpunished. With these things in mind, you have a conscience and you know right from wrong; use these at your own risk.

Here, we find him comparing Bullshido to the KKK:
You know that Bullshido technically is a hate-group, don't you?

Let's compare them with the KKK:

The KKK always expresses how they think of their race in 'superiority.' Bullshido always expresses how they think of themselves in superiority.

The KKK draws up funny comic strips that are designed to not necessarily offend even the ethnic groups they are targetted against, yet their inner meaning is to seriously harm and eventually to get people to hate other people that are not of their race. Bullshido draws up funny comic strips by editting videos of anybody that does RadKi and/or anything they hate, and tries to make them look funny and harmless, yet their true inner meaning is to be hateful and full of evil.

The KKK stands for erradicating anybody that is not with them; their members must be with them 100%, or eventually, the KKK wants to eliminate them when they go back on their trek to 'cleanse the earth of all but whites.' Bullshido wants to erradicate not just 'frauds and freaks in the Martial Arts,' but anybody that they even ACCUSE of being a fraud, or anybody that they don't even like. You've seen them viciously accuse me of being a fraud just because of how I act in my daily life and on all my personal levels, even attacking me as a human being.

The points are all tallied up. Bullshido is a hate group. Portal of Evil is a hate group. Something Awful is a hate group. Want to know what is SCARY? All their actions are completely and perfectly legal.

So no. We're not going to hack. Hacking is illegal and makes us even worse than they are. I'm certain that they've all taken their fair share in illegal activities, but they have gotten away with them.

The only defense is a good offense. I'm going to start a site soon that will voice my opinions on Bullshido and bash them violently, and let it be within the law. If they try to take it down by illegal means, then the law will start coming after them.

But I need 'supporting members' myself. You see, Bullshido has a lot of strength because of their large member count and their union. They have LOYAL, obeying members. That is what we need if we want to survive.

People, please help me out. Find anything you can about Bullshido, and post links to any topics that expose their true evils of hatred towards not just me, but possibly many other people that they've lied about or wronged.

We can't let ourselves be pushed around any longer.
http://s11.invisionfree.com/The_Ki_Sanctuary/index.php?showtopic=152&st=0
If he knew anything about hacking the site, he'd do it. Fortunately he's an idiot.

Can't seem to find any of the really insane rants. I'll keep an eye out for them.

[kookbreaker]

Originally posted by Phrost
Yes, I saw that. It did happen, on the "Astral Plane" (read: in his adolescent imagination).


So they have folding chairs on the Astral Plane? That's mighty nice of them.

[Palimpsest]

I guess in the Astral Plane you can create anything out of primal astral... uh, stuff. Provided you've got enough imagination, I guess.

Which Chrono obviously doesn't. I mean, a folding chair? That's it? I realize he had to keep his fantasy non-lethal to maintain suspension of disbelief, but geez. At least conjure up a useful weapon. Michaelangelo's nunchuks would be my first choice.

"Stop it! I don't want to fight you because you're so gorgeous!" Phrost cowers.


:eek:

Ohmigawd, what? Why is he imagining that Phrost says...

Okay, you know what? I'm just not going there. I'm not going to speculate about who's projecting what on whom. Because that would be unseemly, and I'm not a professional.

[c4ts]

Does that mean he's techically hitting on Phrost, imagining that Phrost finds him gorgeous?

[c4ts]

Came back to the site, I found his "journal," cracks me up constantly.

A small reflection on the state of things:
Monday, December 22, 2003

Well, this is interesting. I get to go to my girlfriend's house. Last night Joe helped me remember what happened in the astral planes. I was then instantly teleported to a place where I was kidnapped by strange beings in a cursed mythril vehicle of some sort-it was blue and yellow and not even my fist could break it. The beings said, "and even if you do, we will make sure you will regret it. We will drug you." "HA!" I scowled, "your pathetic drugs won't affect me."

"Wrong." They jabbed me in the neck and it stung like a wasp! "OWW!!" "Now you will do as we tell you." "I am not doing anything 'till you ******** get the needle out."

So they did. Anyway I got some good training done. I am going after those fools once I heal up.
Aaaah! He's an anti-vaxer!

Oh, it gets worse:
She came at me at my astral house. There were green pigments of energy everywhere. Suddenly I felt my genitals moving. "It had BETTER NOT BE A GREY!" I said to myself, looking up. To both my fear and strange temporary relief...it was Aerith! She was raping me. There was no way I could've got her off. She was too strong. It was unreal. After a few grunts and moans I started doing my "sex talk" and suddenly she punched me so hard I fell out of the bed. She grabbed my sword, and before I could even jump back, she threw some weird black slime on my face! I could neither move, nor speak!

I woke up--but the nightmare had only just begun. She actually was still there. And I still couldn't move! I fought as hard as I could but all I was able to muster was moving my fingers in pain. She somehow learned the techniques those greys do to paralyze their "specimens."

She stabbed me 10 times at blazing speed, and again, I was blinded and muted. After that she jumped straight up and I heard a loud buzzing noise. I tried to use my "Eye of the Heart" to see; and I saw. She was charging ki so hard, that they literally were as bright as stars. I prayed hard and braced myself. Lightning bolt-like projectiles showered my body, and I thought I was dead for sure! Finally I blacked out and she left. It took me 3 hours to get out of my bed.

The next day, pretty much the same happened, but with greys. These greys had narrow eyes, not those huge eyes. They had bluish-white skin and could make facial expressions. They were no ordinary greys.
Again, the slimey-eye gunk. But my body was free. So I prayed again;
The Lord did not forget me, and I did 30 consecutive Crusher Fists, but did they hit? The greys fired their strange projectiles at me, stinging. After a while they left.

Finally, I had enough. Aerith came, but I was awake and ready. I swiped several times but she kept coming back like mad, and absorbing ki from my chakras. Finally I prayed. I rushed at her with a cobra bite, and my hand went forward so fast that the air in front of my fingernails cut me. The pain didn't matter. I felt it latch her neck; I wasted no time crushing it. Did I kill her? I do not know. I do know this--she hasn't come back.

Today, I was in astral, with Joe and talking to some oriental man. He had a white sword, and I cannot remember much besides getting into it with him. I grabbed his sword with my hand and he was astounded.
After fighting a while I flew away.

Well, I am gonna try getting some training in, maybe at 11 AM, it is 10:46 Am now.

Came in at 11:23 AM, cannot remember when it was I left; possibly around 10:56 for training. Putting on that extra weight yesterday did
not help! I need to stay regular in sleeping schedule. But then again, it was VERY cold outside, about 32 degrees or less. It hurt when I struck the trees or even TRIED to climb them! It burned like fire and bit like a dog! My ki was strong but the weather was just too tricky, even though the sun was out, everything was slick as grease. I had better get my chores done and all, and get ready for school.
Damn those raping aliens...

Well, Thursday was a good training experience; then came Friday. And Saturday. And it rained, and it rained, and it rained. The good thing is..my site is fully updated besides the pictures and videos, and catching up on some old times with online buddies. The bad thing is--

I got sick at Franklin's house because of the way they keep their house; messy, full of roaches, dusty, dirty, greasey dishes. But at least they are good people.

While I was asleep I had a much longer astral experience, which is another good thing. I had met up with Joe I believe, and some other friends. Suddenly my town was under attack by some unknown beings that were burning churches! It was horrible! I said, "NO! WE HAVE TO STOP THEM!" The radio in my car said, "

...The police and government are dispatching troops and policemen to capture the terrorists, but so far, no luck..." I got angrier by the minute. Why on Earth would anybody want to burn a church?!

There are innocent people there worshipping God, the One who created the very ground they place foot on, the sky they fly in, and space! Why? There was no good reason, I thought. There is no reason for such irrational thought and planned attack; just being foolish.

I went after them and suddenly found myself from a church, going into a huge train. It seemed normal, but each room was like a huge
gymnasium. Each place I walked in had a man; the first room I walked in, I walked up to him. "Hey, are you ok?!"

"I am, but the evil men are escaping! After them, they went that way--" He points to a room adjascent to me; then I dash to it, only to find me back in a car next to the train. The enemy was travelling in a series of cars. My friends were in the one I jumped in, and we caught up to them by a sort of "astral G-Push" I gave the car. Then I shot them with a gun I made out of pure energy. I killed them, but then the strange astral train sucked me in. I found myself in another room, and went to check on another dead man. He got up and punched me.

"WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU DOING?!" I demanded. "I AM HERE TO HELP!!"

"...not to help me." He then shapeshifted into some monster. I then was knocked out of my astral body! I saw my body; it looked like Cloud's, again. "What?! I am Cloud?" I could hardly believe it. I pulled myself back in, and Sephiroth appeared. "There is no time,"
he said, "pull out your sword and kill him." I drew my sword, but the
monster cuts Sephiroth. "Idiot," he says, and slashes him. He backs off and comes toward me. When he walks, time seems to stop for some reason. So I do a running slash, putting me at Sephiroth's side.
The monster dashes toward both of us, and again, is slashed to the point of nearly being stunned by Sephiroth, who wasn't even trying to kill the thing.

So, I run past him again, this monster, and slash his side. Now it was actually getting fun. This thing was stupid and weak.

"hahahahahaha, WEAKLING! COME AT ME!!" I kept taunting it.

Sephiroth couldn't help but smirk and chuckle at my charisma..

So I impale it, and then something all the more strange happens.

I find myself victor only to find some other strange scenario.

I am in the midst of swirling dark coloured streams of energies and
liquids. I find myself holding the astral version of my katana, only to
see one is like a buster-sword/broadsword, the other is like Sephiroth's "Great Sword." There were two versions of my one blade? So I sharpened them.

I lost my sense of time and space, and at this point I may have woke up. But, I remember sometime before or in between I was in my neighborhood and saw demonic shadows around my sister-in-law's house, and I think I was fighting those too. I awoke at 3 PM, to find myself exhausted and irritable. And, Aerith or someone related is still at it; they are trying to hinder my love life by plaguing my family with
astral dreams of my girlfriend, apparently trying to tell them to make me let go. It will not happen. If it is Aerith, she is dead. If it is not, good for her, she lives, the person doing this little mind game dies.

The bottom line is, someone is toying with me here, and I will not stand for it.

Goodness! I trained from 5 PM to 7 PM!! This is amazing. Chris has healed me and we helped each other conquer the evils that were stealing my ki.
Oh those silly Atheist aliens and their video game conspiracies. It's like he has the mind of a three-year-old!

My journal excerpts get longer, as do my meditations. It takes me longer to get started in the morning knowing
my mother NEVER EVER ****ING WANTS TO TAKE ME ANY ****ING-WHERE....and that ALL MY FRIENDS ARE THE SAME ****ING WAY....and ultimately, I...I love two women....can a man do that? I do not want to give up Ashley OR Aerith, but if it boils down to it...I lean on Aerith. However, hurting Ashley like this would give me guilt beyond measure, guilt that would make me wish I could pay back the debt. I owe two women love, and Aerith deserves, and Ashley deserves:


What should I do? I will pray, and talk with them both about it. Hiding things solves nothing. Aerith? Ashley? If you read this...I have not cheated on either one of you, but Aerith is a deity, a spirit with no body in this world. She is in me and I protect her with my body's life support. Ashley is my girlfriend, but I am afraid she may not understand this...Aerith is mental, spiritual, and somewhat physical, and Ashley is completely physical, mental, and somewhat spiritual. What do I do?

I love them both, and...I can only blame myself for being a fool. I have been foolish in this act of polygamy, wanting both. I do not wish to hurt either of them, which is why I was hoping they would agree to at least all three of us making love, me fused with Aerith as Yamerith, being recommended; afterwards, Aerith in spirit, then Aerith in flesh. I hope this will work out. I do not want to play, "pimp", or "cheater", or "scoundrel..." I...feel so stupid for having done this. Aerith? I love you... Ashley? I love you... I love you both, what am I to do? I want to marry both of you. What should I do? I feel like even not being fused I am spliced in 90 directions.
Makes me wonder if "Ashley" is even a real person...

2) If I could just get the internet back I may be able to sell my teachings on CD again. Nobody but Rico la Costa ever ordered one. Strange, being that over 70,000 have visited the site and only one orders.
I'll bet it was his mother.

And my favorite:
The others watched me train and thought it was neat I guess, they really did not say too much at all after that. Mary seems to have found herself a mate of her own. I know these stories in my journal seem to get more and more fantastic, but I can assure all that my sense of right and wrong as well as reality and what is not real is perfect.

And yes, he is unmedicated, and loving it!
I even forfeited training today because I
hurt so badly emotionally. But I am not
giving up...

"Take your medicine then!" My mother
says.

"NO! I WORKED HARD TO QUIT THIS
DAMN PILL COLD TURKEY AND AM
DAMN SURE NOT GETTING BACK ON
IT! I TRAINED TO BRING OUT MY OWN
POWER TO FIX MY PROBLEMS!!"

Why can't I then? Because I need help where
mortal help fails. I need God and I need Kat,
then everything else I need to do will get done
with the greatest of ease.

Makes me think of Lacan, schizophrenics loving their own delusions, and such.

[Neutiquam Erro]

There was no way I could've got her off.

Well, at least some things in his account seem credible....

[c4ts]

I'm not sure who "Kat" is or what video game or anime she comes from, but he's really obsessed with having sex with her. It's creepier than my uncle who never left his parents' house and now fills it with anime dolls.

[c4ts]

After a minimal amount of research, I have located the identity of Kevin's imaginary rape-doll "Kat." As I had suspected, she is a furry. But I had no idea it was just some random girl's fanfic character! His journal did read like one really bad piece of internet fanfiction, spiraling ever deeper into crazytown:

http://www.livejournal.com/users/yukidragon/140467.html
http://www.livejournal.com/users/yukidragon/146250.html

I speak out now, not only for my friends and for myself, but also for my beloved creation, Kat. Kat, whose full name is Katalina Nicole Acorn, was one of my other/fan characters; specifically for the Sonic the Hedgehog cartoon that had aired on Saturday mornings from 1993-1995; also known as SatAMs to its fans. Kat was created shortly after the cartoon started back in 1993, when I was 12, because I felt that the character Sally would benefit from having a family member due to how desperately Sally wanted to get her father back. This is usually how most fans make their fandom-based characters: because they see a need in the series and fill it with their own creativity, no matter what that desire is.

It gets worse. Kevin meets this girl in real life, and disaster ensues:

Upon first encounter with Kronos he seemed pleasant enough: shy, though overly eager, and especially troubled about making the wrong impression. However he started off on the wrong foot and caused wariness between Neon and me because he had been apparently harassing everyone that I had listed as awesome people on deviant at the time to try and somehow come in contact with Neon or me when I had been unable to promptly reply to the note he had sent through here. He had denied this fact despite evidence to the contrary, which only added to our leeriness of him.

Despite his apparently kindly exterior, Kronos proved that beneath that façade was someone entirely disturbing. Because of a friend's "introduction" to my character Kat, and the story that Neon and I had written, he whole-heartedly believed that she was real, that she existed on the Astral Plane, and that they had fallen in love, got married, and she had his baby, who then grown up within the span of 3 months max.

I do not mean that Kronos made a fan character and had him marry her in a story. I mean that he truly, honestly believed that HE had married Kat. He believed that Kat visited him in reality from the Astral Plane to have sex with him, acting completely unlike herself, and he would write it all down. He also believed that characters like Sonic, Sally, Goku, Aerith, Sephiroth, and others would visit him as well. He also believed that he fought evil demons and could throw ki blasts that even Goku could not beat. It's beyond what any Mary Sue or Gary Stu writer I had ever seen up until that point. He cannot tell fantasy from reality and he will rearrange reality as he sees fit so that he cannot be wrong. If someone tries to correct him on this, then he will paint them as evil and have his reality dictate them as his enemies who are inherently wrong.

And he wanted me to bring Kat over from the Astral Plane so that they could be together in flesh and blood because I am her creator.

Yet, it continues to worsten:
After the second incident I was better able to stand up for myself, and I even went to his forum. Despite being temporarily banned just for signing up, I was able to deliver another cease-and-desist order, along with a plea for Kronos to stop abusing my character so mercilessly. It had seemed that because I had finally stood up for myself that he listened to me... but he altered his reality, now believes me to be the bad guy because I didn't want anything further to do with him: not even to take part in an "e-trial" that he had set up in regards to the incident. After I had gotten him to agree to leave Kat alone and made sure that everything was clear... I just wanted this incident to be over with.

However, when it was revealed by the "friend" who "introduced" Kronos to Kat that Kronos was simply a pawn in order to lure me there, to take part in their mysticism and make their fantasies come true somehow... and when Kronos himself admitted to playing the part... I felt used. I felt as if Kat were being needlessly raped to simply gain my attention and my help in the things that they had done, because they wanted me to validate their claims. This spurred me into finally saying that I didn't want to talk to them again and trying to end the contact that that for good. This was met with hostility and apparently Kronos rearranged his reality to view me in a completely negative light, accusing me of doing things that I had not.

Kronos is still using Kat... swearing that she is real, claiming that she is married to him, boasting that she is having sex with him, and swearing that she is not my character and that I have no control over her... and that hurts. More than anything else I am upset because he is hurting the spirit of Kat, raping her image, and he is hurting my friends because they want so desperately to stop him and help me, but attacking him might make things worse.

So which is worse: schizoid fantasy or a deliberate attempt to ruin this girl's life? Or can it be both?

[RSLancastr]

I am so jealous.

"Kaz" never battles me in the Astral Plane.

[c4ts]

Originally posted by RSLancastr
I am so jealous.

"Kaz" never battles me in the Astral Plane.

You'd need high charisma, intelligence, and willpower for your Astral Combat Pool!

[RSLancastr]

Originally posted by c4ts
You'd need high charisma, intelligence, and willpower for your Astral Combat Pool! I have some DBZ action figures somewhere.

Does that count?

[c4ts]

Originally posted by RSLancastr
I have some DBZ action figures somewhere.

Does that count?

You becha. Now all you have to do is obsess over some random fanfic character until you think you're Jesus!

[Bandersnatch]

Jeeze. I feel bad for making fun of him now.

Dude needs serious help.

[c4ts]

Originally posted by Bandersnatch
Jeeze. I feel bad for making fun of him now.

Dude needs serious help.

I can't help feeling sorry for the girl who was caught up in all this, and Kevin's mother, who he is constantly yelling at despite her attempts to be nice. It was funny until I saw that there were real people who are tortured by his lunacy, and it's not just him.

[Phrost]

We're taking steps to get the contact information of responsible adults in this kid's life. We're going to start with his mother if possible, but might have to progress to his Karate instructor if she doesn't seem to care about her son being on the recieving end of a libel suit.

The kid does need help, and we're going to make reasonable efforts to see he gets it within the scope of what we can do.

But if you make yourself a public figure by putting out garbage like this on the internet, then going so far as to libel people for having a laugh at your expense, then I really have no sympathy for you.

It wouldn't be so bad if he weren't trying to recruit/influence equally disturbed kids.

[c4ts]

Just wait till I finish this video edit!

Anyone know where I can get clips from the old Sonic the Hedgehog cartoon?

[Phrost]

Oh man, if you're doing what I think you're doing. :D

Try isohunt.com, it searches tons of bit torrent sites. You can also pick up sound files and stuff on YTMND.com if you do a search.

[jj]

Phrost, so it's clear, I'm entirely sympathetic.

A link to some of my experiences in this general realm, mine in audio, of course:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.audio.opinion/browse_frm/thread/84f8599c7629da41/1aed0f5cf3ce160e?lnk=st&q=AT*T+Johnston+group:rec.audio.opinion&rnum=5&hl=en#1aed0f5cf3ce160e

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.audio.opinion/browse_frm/thread/1d363c31d1c1641d/37b3082adcb7a663?lnk=st&q=AT*T+Johnston+group:rec.audio.opinion&rnum=12&hl=en#37b3082adcb7a663

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.audio.opinion/browse_frm/thread/e54c6594ccdcae9/7ecf5a23af9a0316?lnk=st&q=AT*T+Johnston+group:rec.audio.opinion&rnum=14&hl=en#7ecf5a23af9a0316

All of this is par for the course on the internet. No, that doesn't constitute approval.

The reason I object to the kind of behavior demonstrated in the three posts above is that I've watched that kind of behavior, over and over, simply drive the reasonable people away from the conversation, leaving the entire field to the lunatics, liars, frauds, and such.

In the present instance, it's somewhat tragic that the insane person is a youth. Perhaps there is something to be done. I don't know.

[Phrost]

Wow, that's a mess.

[c4ts]

Originally posted by Phrost
Oh man, if you're doing what I think you're doing. :D

Try isohunt.com, it searches tons of bit torrent sites. You can also pick up sound files and stuff on YTMND.com if you do a search.

The good news is I found a site. The bad news is it's going to be eight hours before the friggin' file loads. In the meantime, I will complete the original version that is music only.

[BS Investigator]

Originally posted by jj


The fellow who said this is a person who maintains that there is no evidence whatsoever, in any form, that double-blind tests work with music as stimulii.


Of course he would say this, because double-blind tests are utterly effective in exposing nonsense.

[jj]

Originally posted by BS Investigator
Of course he would say this, because double-blind tests are utterly effective in exposing nonsense.

Well, yeeeaaahhhhh..... :)

[c4ts]

Looks like ya won't be seeing my video after all, unless I find someplace that will give me at least 22MB of free upload space...

[Luke T.]

The kid needs 20 years of heavy drinking, followed by a near death experience, with periodic hospitalizations in mental institutions. Then he'll be all right.

Oh, wait. That was me.

Originally posted by Phrost


And here's a link to a video of him "powering up", creatively set to music by the PoE guys. Yes, he really does think he can turn into a "Super Sayian" ala Dragonball Z:

http://www.bullshido.net/modules.php?name=Links&file=viewlinkinfo&id=161


Just for trivia's sake, the song is called Dragostea Din Tei and is sung in Romanian. I believe the origianl artist is a group called Haiducii. If you like, this is their www.comunicagroup.com/h/haiduciiintero.wmv]Music (http://www.publiweb.com/cgi-bin/goto?[url) Video[/url]. Approx. 5.8 Mb.

If you like the song, like I do (NERD!), the best version is the Haiducii vs. Gabry Ponte mix.

"Numa numa" means "don't want don't want". They lyrics at that point in the song are saying, "You want to leave but you don't want don't want to take me, don't want don't want to take me, don't want don't want don't want to take me.

TMI.

[LostAngeles]

Originally posted by Luke T.
The kid needs 20 years of heavy drinking, followed by a near death experience, with periodic hospitalizations in mental institutions. Then he'll be all right.

Oh, wait. That was me.




Just for trivia's sake, the song is called Dragostea Din Tei and is sung in Romanian. I believe the origianl artist is a group called Haiducii. If you like, this is their www.comunicagroup.com/h/haiduciiintero.wmv]Music (http://www.publiweb.com/cgi-bin/goto?[url) Video[/url]. Approx. 5.8 Mb.

If you like the song, like I do (NERD!), the best version is the Haiducii vs. Gabry Ponte mix.

"Numa numa" means "don't want don't want". They lyrics at that point in the song are saying, "You want to leave but you don't want don't want to take me, don't want don't want to take me, don't want don't want don't want to take me.

TMI.

The version they were using has the video with the three guys dancing and singing on the wing of a plane. They run off and hop in the plane and get ready to fly the plane, but then they're on the wing and in the cargo hold.

Then the plane crashes.

But it was all a dream.

Or something like that.

[jj]

Originally posted by Luke T.
The kid needs 20 years of heavy drinking, followed by a near death experience, with periodic hospitalizations in mental institutions. Then he'll be all right.

Oh, wait. That was me.




Just for trivia's sake, the song is called Dragostea Din Tei and is sung in Romanian. I believe the origianl artist is a group called Haiducii. If you like, this is their www.comunicagroup.com/h/haiduciiintero.wmv]Music (http://www.publiweb.com/cgi-bin/goto?[url) Video[/url]. Approx. 5.8 Mb.

If you like the song, like I do (NERD!), the best version is the Haiducii vs. Gabry Ponte mix.

"Numa numa" means "don't want don't want". They lyrics at that point in the song are saying, "You want to leave but you don't want don't want to take me, don't want don't want to take me, don't want don't want don't want to take me.

TMI.

There is also a commercial track from Disc O'Zone, which is also a Rumanian group, I think.

My kids have it. The "numa numa" video at albinoblacksheep.com is a riot.

[c4ts]

I had a great soundtrack that wasn't NumaNuma but can't... upload... ARG!

[Phrost]

Originally posted by c4ts
Looks like ya won't be seeing my video after all, unless I find someplace that will give me at least 22MB of free upload space...

I heard a rumor that a certain forum member owned a martial arts website...

[Phrost]

Minor update. One of our lawyers dug this up.

It looks like the infamous Kilik is active on this guy's forums. Look for him signing his "name" to the posts by "The Heartbreak Kid".

http://s11.invisionfree.com/The_Ki_Sanctuary/index.php?showtopic=159&st=0

He references a thread I started here on the JREF forums about being frustrated with how gullible people are in general.

Interesting.

[Nex]

Oh my...

From the KiSanctuary thread:

Let them come here, Kilik. Let them fight us on our own turf.

Let them deal with people like me.

Yes. I'm back, people. And until I ship out for Navy basic training, Bullshido's going to have hell to pay...

Oh no! He's back! And there's hell to pay!

Phrost, I'm afraid it's time to get into the FBI's witness protection program.


:dl:

[Phrost]

Yeah, he's going to enter the "oh so feared" NAVY basic training so he can dress up like a pretzel mascot.

While that is kind of creepy, I wouldn't go so far as to say "scary". Especially since I was a SGT in the US Army.

I'll spare you the Navy jokes though.

[c4ts]

Originally posted by Nex
Oh my...



Oh no! He's back! And there's hell to pay!

Phrost, I'm afraid it's time to get into the FBI's witness protection program.


:dl:

But you can't hide from Project Stargate!

[jmercer]

Is this the Kilik from our own forums? The one with the anime avatar?? I'm confused, because I thought Kilik (JREF) was a girl, not a "him"...

[c4ts]

Originally posted by jmercer
Is this the Kilik from our own forums? The one with the anime avatar?? I'm confused, because I thought Kilik (JREF) was a girl, not a "him"... '

Quick! He's here lurking right now!

[Palimpsest]

Wow. You know, this is just like that sucky Mel Gibson flick. No, not that one. The one where he paints himself blue and moons the French. Nothing but posturing and empty threats. Unless he's planning more astral attacks. Run while you can, Phrost, nothing can protect you from the power of the folding chair and repressed homoerotic urges! :rolleyes:

(Did I just go there? Oh yes I did.)

Heh. Well, at least Kilik's found a home. Now he can post as many links as he wants on any subject, and is guaranteed an interested audience. More power to him, sez I.

[Palimpsest]

Originally posted by jmercer
Is this the Kilik from our own forums? The one with the anime avatar?? I'm confused, because I thought Kilik (JREF) was a girl, not a "him"...

Perhaps you're thinking of Kiless (http://forums.randi.org/member.php?s=&action=getinfo&userid=6370)? This is Kilik (http://forums.randi.org/member.php?s=&action=getinfo&userid=8907), our pet link-spammer, now suspended.

[jmercer]

Yeppers, you're right. Thanks!

*Heaves a great sigh of relief*

:D

[Phrost]

Just finally got back on the forums here.

Chrono implicates Randi in this latest bit he posted on his forums:

http://s11.invisionfree.com/The_Ki_Sanctuary/index.php?showtopic=476


Hey.

I just wanted to email you and let you know that this thing going on with
Bullshido has gone too far. I'm taking all traces of my name that I can off
the internet for good just as your original plan was. I want my accounts
deleted off the forums as well. Sorry, but this is for my own personal
safety. A lot of people at the James Randi Educational Foundation are out to
get me, and some of them are great at hacking - over 8,000 of them plus the
64,000 members at SomethingAwful.

I'm sorry. But it's just going to have to be this way. If you wish to
contact me you'll have to do so via ShenAugdra, or call me on the
phone/write letters.

Also, I don't mind if you guys take over the site. Just do me a favor and
never mention me on the site unless it's in a private discussion where the
world can't see it. I'd rather not be mentioned online anymore ever again,
just as things once were.

If things escalated to the point this **** is brought to national television
which is just what James Randi WANTS, then he'll try to make a circus out of
me. James Randi hated Uri Gellar and in his eyes I'm the next Uri Gellar. If
you don't understand, visit the link Kilik provided to the comic that they
created of me.

Sorry things had to be this way. If you want to continue the site then like
I said go right ahead. But.. Yuki's teamed up with Bullshido, so basically
all my enemies have formed an alliance against me. What rotten luck I have!

I'm going to destroy all accounts I have on all the websites I can and then
throw my computer down into the woods along with all the equipment I spent
so much money on. The internet's brought me more bad than good. But then
again I met you and lots of other cool folks so it's not been a total loss.

Later,

-Kevin

Catch ya on the flip side.

And for humor's sake: someone sent me this guy's complete journal from July 2003 to Aug 2004.

Seriously... I fear for the human race. Here's a quote:

Tuesday, January 20, 2004

Ok, a good bit happened last week; I went training Thursday, all the way thru Sunday. It was all good. But, then it happened. Aerith found me. I do not know how. All I know is that she somehow found a way to track my energy whenever I use any kind of sexual energy.

She came at me at my astral house. There were green pigments of energy everywhere. Suddenly I felt my genitals moving. "It had BETTER NOT BE A GREY!" I said to myself, looking up. To both my fear and strange temporary relief...it was Aerith! She was raping me. There was no way I could've got her off. She was too strong. It was unreal. After a few grunts and moans I started doing my "sex talk" and suddenly she punched me so hard I fell out of the bed. She grabbed my sword, and before I could even jump back, she threw some weird black slime on my face! I could neither move, nor speak!

I woke up--but the nightmare had only just begun. She actually was still there. And I still couldn't move! I fought as hard as I could but all I was able to muster was moving my fingers in pain. She somehow learned the techniques those greys do to paralyze their "specimens."

She stabbed me 10 times at blazing speed, and again, I was blinded and muted. After that she jumped straight up and I heard a loud buzzing noise. I tried to use my "Eye of the Heart" to see; and I saw. She was charging ki so hard, that they literally were as bright as stars. I prayed hard and braced myself. Lightning bolt-like projectiles showered my body, and I thought I was dead for sure! Finally I blacked out and she left. It took me 3 hours to get out of my bed.

The next day, pretty much the same happened, but with greys. These greys had narrow eyes, not those huge eyes. They had bluish-white skin and could make facial expressions. They were no ordinary greys.
Again, the slimey-eye gunk. But my body was free. So I prayed again;
The Lord did not forget me, and I did 30 consecutive Crusher Fists, but did they hit? The greys fired their strange projectiles at me, stinging. After a while they left.

Finally, I had enough. Aerith came, but I was awake and ready. I swiped several times but she kept coming back like mad, and absorbing ki from my chakras. Finally I prayed. I rushed at her with a cobra bite, and my hand went forward so fast that the air in front of my fingernails cut me. The pain didn't matter. I felt it latch her neck; I wasted no time crushing it. Did I kill her? I do not know. I do know this--she hasn't come back.

Today, I was in astral, with Joe and talking to some oriental man. He had a white sword, and I cannot remember much besides getting into it with him. I grabbed his sword with my hand and he was astounded.
After fighting a while I flew away.

Well, I am gonna try getting some training in, maybe at 11 AM, it is 10:46 Am now.

Came in at 11:23 AM, cannot remember when it was I left; possibly around 10:56 for training. Putting on that extra weight yesterday did
not help! I need to stay regular in sleeping schedule. But then again, it was VERY cold outside, about 32 degrees or less. It hurt when I struck the trees or even TRIED to climb them! It burned like fire and bit like a dog! My ki was strong but the weather was just too tricky, even though the sun was out, everything was slick as grease. I had better get my chores done and all, and get ready for school.

[c4ts]

I thought I'd already posted a link to his journal and quoted from it. Maybe it was erased.

Sorry about the video, Phrost, but it was too long and repetitive, and I could never get a hold of the clips I wanted to use. Anyway, this link was lost so I'm putting it back up. Why he chose to go after Randi instead of me irritates me.

Dammit, Kevin, I wrote the friggin' Kevin-inspired script. I don't represent Randi or anyone else on this board, or the JREF in general (it even says so on the front page of the forums, if you would kindly look there). I am not eight thousand hackers out to get you. Hell, I'm not even one hacker out to get you, and even if I did know anything about hacking, I would certainly not oust you from the Ki Sanctuary, not while you're my primary source of writing inspiration! Bah, you've got me relying on Yuki for my misinformation, and she's too sane! Come back to internet-land and do more Astral Writers. I'm drying up without my material, man. Don't be put off because of a single work of fiction.


For the rest of you, behold, the saga!

Part I (http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/23296404/)
Part II (http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/23338013/)
Part III (http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/23422030/)
Part IV (http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/23511911/)

[Phrost]

Nobody who posts here represents Randi or the JREF. We've got the same problem on Bullshido with outsiders arguing that because "Random_Guy_18938" posted that he thought Taekwondo was garbage, it's the official party line of the organization.

I'm glad this mess is dying down though, with him "throwing his computer in the woods" and all. It gets mindnumbing after a while, kind of like watching the movie Kung Pow 20 times in a row... there's only so much entertainment value you can get out of something before you want to retch.

[c4ts]

I wish it were true, but this is more like a cry for attention. He'll be back within a month at the most.

[BroodingSkill]

Wow,just wow. I've been a lurker at Bullshido for a while and haven't been even near the JREF for a year. It's sort a blow to the head to see how far down to loony land Kevin has sunk, he really needs some serious profeshional help and meds.

Well despite that, keep up the good work Phrost.

[Bandersnatch]

Words of wisdom from Killik...or The Heartbreak Kid, or whoever.
Same site as the goodbye.

There are ways of getting around the fact that someone didn't do anything illegal. For instance, someone could claim you are insane and need to be drugged. In which case you can never go to heaven or cultivate spiritual energy in the future. Ever. Unless you have a real master right now who can deal with such issues. Also, like how all the different people's are now intermixed now, too, so things are complicated. Almost all people have to cultivate now or won't have any opportuniy in the future. You're garunteed no future in the future world and universe if you are on drugs like that.

In fact, schools and teachers who don't like a particular kid, do those kinds of things all the time. They are those who should be eliminated from existence, but want to take innocent kids with them.

We don't want Bullshido to make Chrono the next Eric Harris right? Because if it actually got to that point, what Eric Harris did is not the worst thing anymore. He needs his mind and body, so............ I don't know, internet's not everything


Ergo, taking Zoloft = no heaven.

BTW, couldn't find the quote tags

[Phrost]

Yeah, that paranoid bit gives the phrase "go to hell" a whole different meaning.

Those kids have more issues than National Geographic.

[c4ts]

He needs to stay away from Killik and the like. They think they're doing him a favor, but all they're really doing is isolating him from the people he needs to help him out of this rut he's in. If he learns to deal with his tough life at home, he won't escape to fantasy all the time. He's a smart kid, and if he could apply himself to solutions that didn't involve magical powers and imaginary friends, he could fix up his own life be a lot happier for it.

[Jackalgirl]

Navy basic? Oh Lordie, not /my/ Navy...

The only thing I can say is that fortunately, Basic has a way of weeding out folks like that. They have to go off their meds, you see, and it becomes quickly apparent that they're absolutely nuts. Had a guy like that in my division; he was off to the hospital after about a week and a half...

-- Jackalgirl

P.S. But please, if you folk who are trying to find out who this guy is do find out who this guy is, could you PLEASE contact Navy recruiting in his home town and let them know that he will probably be trying to conceal his medical history from them? --J

[Jackalgirl]

Oh my goodness, c4ts, that was HILARIOUS! Is there any more?

-- Jackalgirl

[c4ts]

When I have time, I will work on it some more. Right now I'm too busy, but my goal is to actually finish this thing.

As for the Navy, I don't think they can let him in. He has chronic asthma or something, in addition to whatever mental disorders he may have. It's too bad, if he wasn't a total lunatic the Navy could straighten him out and give him something to do with his life. In his present condition, I wouldn't trust this guy out on a ship at sea, endangering the mental health of the crew. Chrono does not need to learn how to actually kill people.

[Nex]

...Chrono does not need to learn how to actually kill people. But he does know how -- with his chi-powah of course!

In all seriousness, I can't fathom him getting through basic training. One glimpse of his "chi power-up" dance would do it, methinks.:rolleyes:

[c4ts]

I cast Raise Dead on this thread!

Told you I would keep working on it. (http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/23886306/)

Victoly!