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Achán hiNidráne
16th September 2005, 12:08 PM
More "Repent! God sent Katrina to punish gays, 'liberals,' arabs, etc.." BS, this time from Don Feder. (http://www.grasstopsusa.com/091405.html)

Skeptic
16th September 2005, 12:33 PM
If God sent Katrina to punish Arabs, he's got really lousy aim.

Achán hiNidráne
16th September 2005, 12:37 PM
Originally posted by Skeptic
If God sent Katrina to punish Arabs, he's got really lousy aim.

Well, maybe not "Arabs" per se, but Don obviously thinks that the Gaza Strip pull-out has I AM's tidy-whities in a bundle.

Ziggurat
16th September 2005, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by Mark A. Siefert
Well, maybe not "Arabs" per se, but Don obviously thinks that the Gaza Strip pull-out has I AM's tidy-whities in a bundle.

I thought it was "tighty-whities" (to distinguish them from loose-fitting boxers), not "tidy-whities".

Achán hiNidráne
16th September 2005, 12:58 PM
OK, so I'm not hip and cool to the lingo those crazy kids (what with their hula-hoops, and their Pop-Rocks, and their Snoop Dogg, and their mini-skirts, and their peirced-I-don't-know-whats...) use these days. However, given how anal retentive most religious nutters tend to be, "tidy" might not be all that far from the truth.

Charlie Monoxide
16th September 2005, 01:44 PM
from quote:

"Regarding the way God works in the world, there are four possibilities:

1. There is no God and everything that happens is the result of the random collision of molecules.

2. There is a God, but he’s an absentee landlord. He arranged the world, including nature, as a self-regulating mechanism, then sat back and allowed it to function on its own.

3. There is a God and he controls everything, down to the minutest detail. If a certain leaf falls from a particular tree, it’s because he wants that leaf to fall from that tree. (Regarding the actions of humans, this would seem to negate the concept of free will.)

4. There is a God who usually allows nature, or individuals, to follow their own course or path. But sometimes he intervenes to create a specific outcome, or to fire a warning shot across the bow of an errant people. When this happens, we call the result a miracle (thereby recognizing that it is supernatural) – as when He parted the Red Sea for the Children of Israel, or when the American Revolution succeeded, against impossible odds.

Of these theories, the fourth seems the most plausible. And so, it is not unreasonable to inquire: With the devastation wrought on New Orleans (and surrounding areas) was God trying to tell us something?"

Errr, I beg to differ, Mr Feder, but I'm pretty sure reason 1 is the MOST plausible.

Charlie (god fearing denier of god) Monoxide

Grammatron
16th September 2005, 02:16 PM
Originally posted by Charlie Monoxide
from quote:

"Regarding the way God works in the world, there are four possibilities:

1. There is no God and everything that happens is the result of the random collision of molecules.

2. There is a God, but he’s an absentee landlord. He arranged the world, including nature, as a self-regulating mechanism, then sat back and allowed it to function on its own.

3. There is a God and he controls everything, down to the minutest detail. If a certain leaf falls from a particular tree, it’s because he wants that leaf to fall from that tree. (Regarding the actions of humans, this would seem to negate the concept of free will.)

4. There is a God who usually allows nature, or individuals, to follow their own course or path. But sometimes he intervenes to create a specific outcome, or to fire a warning shot across the bow of an errant people. When this happens, we call the result a miracle (thereby recognizing that it is supernatural) – as when He parted the Red Sea for the Children of Israel, or when the American Revolution succeeded, against impossible odds.

Of these theories, the fourth seems the most plausible. And so, it is not unreasonable to inquire: With the devastation wrought on New Orleans (and surrounding areas) was God trying to tell us something?"

Errr, I beg to differ, Mr Feder, but I'm pretty sure reason 1 is the MOST plausible.

Charlie (god fearing denier of god) Monoxide

I think God was trying to tell us that building cities bellow sea level is dumb and that he is no fan of gambo.

headscratcher4
16th September 2005, 02:20 PM
I think god was trying to get back at Mike "Brownie" Brown for some unaccountable evil he did while working for the Arabian Horse Association (see...Arabs, or at least Arabians, are invovled!).

LostAngeles
16th September 2005, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by Skeptic
If God sent Katrina to punish Arabs, he's got really lousy aim.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b360/Lost_Angeles/God_Lacks_Precision.jpg

From: http://www.brokentoys.org/?p=6849

Achán hiNidráne
16th September 2005, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by Charlie Monoxide
from quote:

"4. There is a God who usually allows nature, or individuals, to follow their own course or path. But sometimes he intervenes to create a specific outcome, or to fire a warning shot across the bow of an errant people. When this happens, we call the result a miracle (thereby recognizing that it is supernatural) – as when He parted the Red Sea for the Children of Israel, or when the American Revolution succeeded, against impossible odds.

Of these theories, the fourth seems the most plausible. And so, it is not unreasonable to inquire: With the devastation wrought on New Orleans (and surrounding areas) was God trying to tell us something?"

Huh? This is "plausible?" OK Don, what is your evidence to support this so-called theory? Where and what is your data that leads you to think that this "God" a--hole destroyed NO to get at homosexuals and people who don't want to say the Pledge Of Alliegence?

Heck, where and what is your evidence that this jerk named "God" exists at all?

StaticEngine
16th September 2005, 03:37 PM
I think he confuses plausable with "in line with what I'd like to believe."

geni
16th September 2005, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by Charlie Monoxide

Errr, I beg to differ, Mr Feder, but I'm pretty sure reason 1 is the MOST plausible.

Charlie (god fearing denier of god) Monoxide

I don't think the collisions that happen at CERN can be described as random.

CapelDodger
16th September 2005, 03:49 PM
A hurricane on the Gulf Coast does not a miracle make, Mr Feder. New Orleans engulfed in a sudden glaciation, that would give this atheist pause. Katrina going "pop" and disappearing against all known meteorological principles (because of all the "Spare us!" praying going on), ditto. Scientists predicted what happened, but they didn't predict that New Orleans would be hit by a miracle, so I suppose that shows how much they know ...