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psy kick
3rd February 2003, 08:16 AM
For those of you in the Cleveland area, there is a special on Fox8 news Tuesday night at 10.
They are showing some religious guy who claims to heal people.
I will watch it and see what conclusions they come up with. I don't recognize him.
They didn't say his name.
I once went to a church which claimed belief that folks had gold dust falling on them!:rolleyes:
psy kick
6th February 2003, 06:43 AM
Ok.
It was Leroy Jenkins.
The local news interveiwed him, asked about the million dollar challenge and had comments from Randi!
Leroy said he has a couple of "provable" healings, will Randi give him a million for each one?
They found no documented cases, in fact, some cases he said he healed them, that was NOT what was wrong with them.
He also told the interviewer, "Don't touch God's annointed" implying that God would "get" the interviewer for going after him.
No surprises, but I am glad an actual news show showed that he really is a fraud.
Tricky
6th February 2003, 07:01 AM
Most stations are bad about using "teasers", but anything with FOX in the title is much worse. They'll sprinkle their ads with things like, "Do tacos cause cancer?", just to get you to tune in. Once you are hooked, it is obvious that there is no story, but by the time you find that out, you've watched the show.
Diogenes
6th February 2003, 07:01 AM
I cannot understand, why it does not occur to the media jerks, who insists on giving these anal orifices publicity,
to put together a demonstration at a local children's burn or cancer ward.....:mad: :mad: :mad:
psy kick
6th February 2003, 08:09 AM
Well, at least they've exposed one fraud.
To some folks who would've never read the Skeptical Inquirer or Randi's works, especially Faith Healers.
Going to many fundie churches myself, I've heard of "healers" but seen no "evidence."
headscratcher4
6th February 2003, 08:12 AM
Originally posted by Tricky
Most stations are bad about using "teasers", but anything with FOX in the title is much worse. They'll sprinkle their ads with things like, "Do tacos cause cancer?", just to get you to tune in. Once you are hooked, it is obvious that there is no story, but by the time you find that out, you've watched the show.
But do tacos cause cancer?:confused:
Tricky
6th February 2003, 08:20 AM
Originally posted by headscratcher4
But do tacos cause cancer?:confused:
One of the best-kept secrets of medical research is that everything causes cancer in white mice.
c4ts
6th February 2003, 01:33 PM
Anyone remember FOX's "Alien Autopsy?"
Wile E. Coyote
6th February 2003, 01:38 PM
Originally posted by Tricky
One of the best-kept secrets of medical research is that everything causes cancer in white mice.
I wonder how white mice ever made it through natural selection, seeing as how they can get cancer just by breathing a little too much.
billydkid
6th February 2003, 06:02 PM
Originally posted by tjwojo
I wonder how white mice ever made it through natural selection, seeing as how they can get cancer just by breathing a little too much.
actually, I think they were bred into existence.
justsaygnosis
6th February 2003, 06:43 PM
Originally posted by headscratcher4
But do tacos cause cancer?:confused:
Extra hot sauce is pre-emptive chemotherapy so you can eat all you want.
Truzi
6th February 2003, 08:28 PM
I didn't see this thread when I posted mine:
http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13529
Fox 8 News is local, not national. In the Cleveland area Channel 8 is actually the least sensational news. The news team was established before Fox bought the station (Fox was originally Channel Nineteen around here).
It was actually a well done story.
Truzi
7th February 2003, 08:23 PM
Leroy Jenkins was in the news again tonite. He sold his church for $1 Million to some Hindu organization, and will be conducting his "business" out of a hotel until he finds a new venue.
Doctor X
7th February 2003, 11:41 PM
His Most Amazing One took him appart years ago in his The Faith Healers.
Execellent book! I am not just saying it to get a free spoon . . . BENT BY RANDI'S HAND!!! [!--Ed.]
--J.D.
Segnosaur
10th February 2003, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by c4ts
Anyone remember FOX's "Alien Autopsy?"
Remember it? I think I still have the video of it somewhere. (Taped from TV; don't worry, I didn't spend real money on it.)
psy kick
11th February 2003, 07:34 AM
I am proud of my son, age 10.
He watched it with me, and said he didn't think anyone can heal someone by laying hands on them.
I told him the guy couldn't prove it!
Children are naturally skeptical, which is good.
Once I told him there was this semifamous guy who claimed he could bend spoons by his mind power.
my son: He can't.
me: how does he do it then?
my son: he does it when no one is looking.
:)
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