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WhiteLion
10th November 2005, 01:56 PM
Just read this post on Stormfront, refeering to the riots in Paris and why it happend.
I'm currently writing replies to a number of posts on Stormfront but thought I'd like to hear some takes on this wooish crap?


A racialist could have predicted this scenario, as we all realize that there are profound differences between races. An animalistic religion with followers that, on average, possess low cognitive capacity and higher levels of testosterone amidst a sophisticated and elegant culture, such as France’s, is a sure-fire receipt for catastrophe.

These low-grade immigrants will always be bottom feeders of society because they lack the right genetic make-up to compete against indigenous French for cognitive demanding jobs. Yes, it may sound callous to say such, but the reality is, jobs are often sorted by IQ, IQ is largely genetic based, and whites, on average, have 15 more IQ points than blacks. So, as a result of this societal cognitive stratification along racial lines, blacks will always be at the bottom rungs of society. Combine these poor environment conditions (which is the direct result of low IQ’s, and not white racism) with a propensity for aggressive behaviour due to their higher levels of testosterone and a religion that endorses it, and you’ll understand why blacks are rioting.

The sooner we acknowledge racial differences, the sooner we can build a safer world. I’m still dumb-founded why any individual would want to live in a multicultural society. It almost seems like we’ve gotten to the point where we must sacrifice everything for this multicultural ideal, which by the way is a misnomer for multiracialism, as if it in itself was worth preserving. We were lead to believe that it enriches and expands the human mind, yet I haven’t seen any empirical evidence that supports this supposition. If there are no perceived benefits, why are we still tinkering with this experiment?

If multiculturalism is so perfectly natural, why is the government always trying to correct it by imposing restrictive freedom of speech laws, diversity quotas, and affirmative action programs that all leave whites with the short end of the stick? Why can’t we concede that society was wrong, and that multiculturalism/multiracialism is an inherently unnatural and impractical ideology? Why can’t you anti’s understand that to maintain the integrity of our heritage and culture, we must preserve our European genes? The world will be Paris a thousand times over if we don’t put an end to this dogmatic marxist philosophy.

Francois Tremblay
10th November 2005, 06:07 PM
Although I am also against multiculturalism, I still think they're full of Sigh. Please don't do this . IQ only measures mental acuity, and is not necessarily an indicator of how well someone can hold a job - school education and success is a much better indicator.

Then again, this is probably too subtle a point for them.

And where the And don't do this either did they deduce that people with different skin tones have "higher levels of testosterone" (I guess they never heard of soccer hooligans) and that "blacks will always be at the bottom rungs of society" ? What society ? They don't seem to be at the bottom rung of, say, most African countries.

richardm
11th November 2005, 03:03 AM
In fact:

CONCLUSIONS: Although several studies have suggested that African-American men have higher serum testosterone levels than white men, these differences were noted only in men 40 years of age or younger.

- Most of the rioters were under 40 (although whether they were African-American, I'm not so sure). From here. (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=10604704&dopt=Abstract)

Francois Tremblay
11th November 2005, 03:47 AM
That seems more like a correlation, based on the fact that older adults probably don't like the physical demands of rioting, or do not get hot-tempered enough to riot, or have better things to do with their time.

Belz...
11th November 2005, 05:47 AM
First off, even IF their IQ was lower, isn't that also related to social class ? I mean, if these people are kept pretty much isolated from the rest and receive less education, obviously their intelligence is going to suffer. Nothing genetic about that.

Also, even monoracial societies have those problems. They're just trying to blame their ills on a visible minority.

Flatworm
13th November 2005, 07:02 PM
It never ceases to amaze me how WNs never question whether or why race should be a priviledged axis of reference. The rioters may have been mostly of African descent, but they were also largely young and male. The WNs have not called for segregation by sex or by age-- why not? They also make much ado about IQ. However if IQ is as important as they say it is, and we can test it directly, why not segregate on the basis of IQ itself? Of course all their statistical sophistry is just a way to rationalize an irrational hatred of those different from them.

I for one would like to see a statistical comparison based on an entirely different axis of reference: adherence to white supremacist beliefs. I would be willing to bet we would find lower IQs, lower education levels, lower incomes and higher incarceration rates among white supremacists than among the general population. By their own arguments, this is grounds for expelling them from society at large. ;)

delphi_ote
13th November 2005, 07:10 PM
Just read this post on Stormfront, refeering to the riots in Paris and why it happend.
I'm currently writing replies to a number of posts on Stormfront but thought I'd like to hear some takes on this wooish crap?

Still reading around over there? You, sir, have my utmost respect. I simply couldn't take it.

ceo_esq
14th November 2005, 01:10 PM
In fact:

- Most of the rioters were under 40 (although whether they were African-American, I'm not so sure). From here. (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=10604704&dopt=Abstract)

Most of the rioters have been of North African Arab (or direct Middle Eastern) descent - thus, mostly Caucasian. A smaller number have been from sub-Saharan African (black) ethnic groups. One would expect that none were African-American.

delphi_ote
14th November 2005, 01:17 PM
Most of the rioters have been of North African Arab (or direct Middle Eastern) descent - thus, mostly Caucasian. A smaller number have been from sub-Saharan African (black) ethnic groups. One would expect that none were African-American.

The only word Stormfronters are going to see in that whole paragraph is "African."

sackett
14th November 2005, 01:34 PM
...why not segregate on the basis of IQ? ...

Okay, pal, you owe me a new keyboard. This one is flooded with guffawed-out coffee. (What do you call that? Cuffaw?)

I'd dearly love to see the Stormfronters ghettoed up with their intellectual peers.

But, come to think of it, who would I find in my corral?

'Scuse me, I got to go think this one over a bit more.

Cleon
14th November 2005, 01:37 PM
One would expect that none were African-American.
Well, given that this is occurring in France, yes, I think that's a fairly safe bet.

ceo_esq
14th November 2005, 01:38 PM
Well, given that this is occurring in France, yes, I think that's a fairly safe bet.

That was my point.

Ryokan
14th November 2005, 01:41 PM
I'm white, my IQ (not to brag, just state a fact) is over 130, and I've been unemployed now for five years. Heh....

Francois Tremblay
14th November 2005, 02:58 PM
I'm white, my IQ (not to brag, just state a fact) is over 130, and I've been unemployed now for five years. Heh....

I hear ya.

Manny
14th November 2005, 05:08 PM
That was my point.Heh. Check with CNN's Carol Lin, who said that it was the electrocution of two African-American youths (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0511/06/snn.01.html) who provided the impetus for this whole thing.

I demand to know why Americans aren't being given their consular rights in France!

ceo_esq
14th November 2005, 06:23 PM
Heh. Check with CNN's Carol Lin, who said that it was the electrocution of two African-American youths (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0511/06/snn.01.html) who provided the impetus for this whole thing.

I half-suspect that there may be an automatic editing protocol used at some American news-gathering organizations, which methodically replaces the word "black" with the more politically correct term "African-American". However, I believe the two youths in question were probably Arab, not black at all.

sackett
15th November 2005, 10:07 AM
How I wish life was as simple as the “racialists” want to believe. Then you’d always know who you were dealing with.

Except that you wouldn’t. Even if races really existed, and really displayed the differences the Stormfrontlets imagine, it wouldn’t get you any further along. Statistics don’t apply to individuals, as somebody long ago pointed out, and it’s only statistically that races would differ. You might never encounter an actual person who matched the statistical norms of his race on all measures.

In other words, you’d have to continue dealing with individuals, one at a time and separately. The law would have to do the same, or it would be continually committing injustices on individuals who didn’t conform to the statistical definitions of race.

Of course the Sturmfrontschwein would argue that injustice to individuals on the basis of race is okay because, well, them mud people is just no damn good no matter what.

Nick Bogaerts
15th November 2005, 03:30 PM
Most of the rioters have been of North African Arab (or direct Middle Eastern) descent - thus, mostly Caucasian.

Wrong mountain. That one would be the Atlas.

Yeah, I know. I'm just surprised at seeing the term used on this forum, of all places.

vbloke
15th November 2005, 03:48 PM
I believe that the news in the UK reported them as "two Arabic youths"

WhiteLion
16th November 2005, 07:48 AM
Still reading around over there? You, sir, have my utmost respect. I simply couldn't take it.

There have been times where I neither could or would, though it's aidful in many senses as Luke T. eminently declared a while back.

All in all it is a stimulating process which has left me utterly uninterested in enaging discussions with theistic fanatics, it is by far more important and gratifying to sway any fence sitters away from the thorn yards of contemporary racial separatism and prejudice degredation... however it's likely the largest variable of "wooism" in the world racism is.

At times it is like dealing with mentaly unstable people because you are constantly at pains not to set them of into lunacy, heh.