Indigo kids see the dead (on CNN)

[Aepervius]

Go to CNN.COM the international edition and search for Indigo kids (if it did not disappear it is on the right side as "watch" breaking news).

javascript:cnnVideo('play','/video/us/2005/11/15/tuchman.indigo.children.affl','2005/11/22');

I can't watch it... Can someone watch it ? I have a bad feeling on how it is handled (aka totally "woo" sided) just by seeing the summary :


Psychic children?

(5:28)

A New Jersey child claims she can see angels and chats with those who see them, too. CNN's Gary Tuchman reports (November 15)


All I can hear is some sort of spooky music with a slow voice.
Either that or this is an ad for a new psychic show :).

[Phil]

All I see are lesbians singing bad folk songs.

[eri]

Oh, I watched it. Apparently the new fad amongst parents of children with ADHD is to call them 'indigo children'. These 'indigo children' have special habits, like short attention spans dispite apparently high IQs' and an ability to talk to angels and dead people.

And ... the best part was the aura camera. This woman had a camera that could take pictures of your aura. So they took a picture of the aura of the CNN reporter and one of these kids (a 17 year old who hangs out on the beach all day and appeared to be lying through her teeth), and the woman with the camera pointed out how the girl's 'aura' was much more purple than the reporters (they both seemed to have a fair amount of purple to me). Thus, indigo children from the colors of their auras.

I think any of these children, the woman, or even their parents could take a shot at the million (prove that your child is somehow 'special' and not just ADHD/schizophenic/morbidly obese).

And I think I'll email CNN with a complaint. Who wants to complain with me! Lisa?

[Phil]

Oh, I watched it. Apparently the new fad amongst parents of children with ADHD is to call them 'indigo children'. These 'indigo children' have special habits, like short attention spans dispite apparently high IQs' and an ability to talk to angels and dead people. . . .
When I was a kid, parents just whipped our asses, and told us to pay attention. Of course, in those days, we burned up our excess energy and purged our wild imaginations playing outside. So there wasn't as much opportunity for grown-ups to see how "special" we were and assign some BS diagnosis.

... the best part was the aura camera. This woman had a camera that could take pictures of your aura. So they took a picture of the aura of the CNN reporter and one of these kids (a 17 year old who hangs out on the beach all day and appeared to be lying through her teeth), and the woman with the camera pointed out how the girl's 'aura' was much more purple than the reporters (they both seemed to have a fair amount of purple to me). Thus, indigo children from the colors of their auras. . . .
Funny, it sounded to me, too, like the beach girl was just making things up as she went. Like when the reporter asked her where the angels were, you could almost see her thinking, "Hmmm . . . where are angels usually? . . ." and then when she remembered a cartoon or something she'd once seen, she said, "The angel is by your shoulder."

. . . I think any of these children, the woman, or even their parents could take a shot at the million (prove that your child is somehow 'special' and not just ADHD/schizophenic/morbidly obese).

And I think I'll email CNN with a complaint.

Yes. Once again, out of a 5-6 minute piece, the skeptic gets about 10 seconds of air time.

[c4ts]

Will the dead be available for an interview?

[Cthulhu]

I thought all kids had "invisible friends" at some point.

Never realized I was acutally talking to angels and dead people.

[vbloke]

"Indigo Kids"
it sounds like some bad anime from the 70's dubbed into bad english

[Perpetual Notion]

There was a movie called "Indigo Children" that came out about a year ago that was produced by the same people who produced "What the Bleep Do We Know". I was tricked into seeing it with a friend and knew I should have stayed in the car when we pulled up and everyone was wearing purple and someone was playing a didgeridoo outside the theatre. I'm sure it will be coming to a Blockbuster near you. You can also sign up for their "Spiritual Cinema" series and they will actually mail you one of these masterpieces of rational theatre each month along with a discussion guide to share with your community. The one skeptic in the film is, of course, a total jerk but then sees the light.

People, your child is a pain in the *ss. This does not make him special, psychic or touched by an angel. He's just a brat. Please do something about it. Now. And put down the didgeridoo.

[Luke T.]

Does someone have a link to this video? I cannot find it.

[Luke T.]

OK. I found the video.

What bothers me the most is the supposed psychotherapist who has these children brought to her. This is someone who is supposed to HELP kids.

Woo Psychotherapist: Usually I get an email that will say, "My child is having meltdowns. She can't sleep at night. She says that she sees things in her room. Can you help me?

CNN: What do you say?

Woo: I usually say, "Wow! You're seeing something at night? Do you know that sometimes angels visit at night?" And their eyes will sometimes cloud up, with tears even. Maybe because it's the first time anybody really affirmed for them that what they saw was not crazy.

Unbelievable. She's farking these kids up for life.

[Yeah_Right]

Guess the video disappeared on me.

[Luke T.]

Guess the video disappeared on me.

Well, what I did is went here: http://edition.cnn.com/US/index.html

Then I clicked on a random video where it says WATCH FREE VIDEO. Doesn't matter which one.

Then when a window popped open to play the video, there is a SEARCH VIDEO bar in the upper right-hand corner of the window, and then I typed in "psychic children" and got one result. Clicked on it. Viola!

[Luke T.]

Indigo Kids (http://www.cnn.com/video/partners/clickability/index.html?url=/video/us/2005/11/15/tuchman.indigo.children.affl)

Courtesy of Marian on SC.

[eri]

Don't worry, it will probably show up in the science section tomorrow.

[bagtaggar]

Just watched it.

Absolutely infuriating to see this level of lazy, irresponsible, sensational reporting.


But what would you expect from CNN?

[c4ts]

"Indigo Kids"
it sounds like some bad anime from the 70's dubbed into bad english

INDIGO SYLVIA: Oh no! My pyramid power is fail!

RANDI SAN: Ha ha ha ha! You cannot stop the waves of skepicism! You are weak and foolish fools, Indigo Kids.

INDIGO EDGE: Dowsing Strike! Haaaa!

INDIGO PROPHET YAWEH: I summon King of Saucers!

INDIGO GELLER: Spooooooon Bender!

RANDI SAN: Oh no, I am defeat of seizure light! It retreats to secret robot fortress! Ha ha ha ha ha ha!

INDIGO SYLVIA: Randi San escape with million dollar.

INDIGO GELLER: Indigo Kids are friend of all woo. Day is safed for now!

*40 minutes of flashing colored frames and annoying Japanese ya ya music.*

[nemo]

Not as funny as the Gingers on the latest episode of South Park :)

[Yeah_Right]

Well I guess when you have a 24 hour station like CNN you have to fill it in with something, including absolute nonsense. That psychologist reminds me of the quacks that tell people they've been abducted by aliens. And she should probably be kicked outta the profession all together.

[disfunkster]

So i'm having a hard time getting CNN's video watching applet to work correctally (does not appear to be very Linux friendly, but i've never tried it before) so I was unable to watch the video, but from what I gather i'm assuming that this CNN report was done by Doreen Virtue, Ph.D? I noticed she has somehow gotten herself onto CNN a few times, then I found her book. Check this out.

"Doreen Virtue, Ph.D., is a spiritual doctor of psychology and fourth-generation metaphysician who works with the angelic, elemental, and ascended master realms. She is the author of 22 books on mind-body-spirit themes, including Healing with the Angels, Divine Guidance, Angel Therapy, The Lightworker’s Way, and Archangels & Ascended Masters."

Wow. If you do a fast google for Doreen Virtue, Ph.D ... you can also find her homepage, the official Angel Therapy Web site. It's full of amazing facts, such as:

"Q: When Doreen gives an angel reading, she asks whether the person is left or right-handed. Why does she need this information?"

"A: She uses this information to discern whether a person’s deceased loved one is from their mother’s side of the family, or from their father’s side. If you’re right-handed, your paternal (birth, step, or adoptive) deceased relatives stand near your right side, and your maternal (birth, step, or adoptive) deceased relatives stand near your left side. Deceased siblings and children stand near your left side, and deceased spouses stand behind you. If you’re left handed, the reverse is true."

Wow, good to know. Check out her web page if you're in need of a good laugh. What really scares me more then anything is that I'd bet she's making quite a decent income via the sales of everything you'd expect, books, books on CD, and of course the workshop.

I was hopeing for a transcript of the CNN report on this, everything I can find seems to be just what i'd expect, lots of new age crystal angel healing woo. I'll leave you with this gem from healing.about.com, I mean, what do you say to a comment like this? If someone said this to me in the real world, i'm not sure I could do much but stand there and look amazed :-)

"Indigo children are a newer generation that have arrived on the planet that are said not to have the conventional human DNA strands that the rest of us do. Their advanced vibrational energy has been described as having a dark blue aura. Thich is why they are called the Indigo Generation."

Oh, I see. :P

[disfunkster]

Well I guess when you have a 24 hour station like CNN you have to fill it in with something, including absolute nonsense. That psychologist reminds me of the quacks that tell people they've been abducted by aliens. And she should probably be kicked outta the profession all together.

But is the expert Doreen Virtue, Ph.D.? I can say with total confidence that after browsing her web page, some of her statements are just so out there that it's almost hard to believe she probably takes herself quite seriousally.

[logical muse]

I watched the first few seconds, till the reporter or someone said "Your dead grandmother visited you last night".... I really have a very low tolerance level for this sort of thing.

Did anyone else misread the header at the top of the CNN page? You know, where it says "Psychotic children?". For a moment I thought it said "Psychic children".

[Aepervius]

I knew CNN.COM was getting low in its standard but here it is nearing the event horizon of the "RIDICULOUS" black hole...

[Ceinwyn]

So some large-boned kid in California thinks she's special.

Stop the presses.

[Paul C. Anagnostopoulos]

Is it possible that an entire network can jump the shark?

~~ Paul

[Luke T.]

So i'm having a hard time getting CNN's video watching applet to work correctally (does not appear to be very Linux friendly, but i've never tried it before) so I was unable to watch the video, but from what I gather i'm assuming that this CNN report was done by Doreen Virtue, Ph.D?

No. The reporter is Gary Tuchman.

The woo psychotherapist is named Julie Rosenshein (http://www.circlesofwisdom.com/event.cfm?evnt_id=2157). Rise and shine?

This basic class provides parents and caregivers the tools they need to help children develop in mind, body, emotion and spirit. Many children today are labeled ADD and given medication before any other holistic approaches are even tried. There is also a new breed of young children called Indigo Children or Highly Sensitive Children who have similar ADD symptoms but are actually "old souls" who are different, sensitive and gifted and need our help for healthy development.

[Psi Baba]

INDIGO SYLVIA: Oh no! My pyramid power is fail!

RANDI SAN: Ha ha ha ha! You cannot stop the waves of skepicism! You are weak and foolish fools, Indigo Kids.

INDIGO EDGE: Dowsing Strike! Haaaa!

INDIGO PROPHET YAWEH: I summon King of Saucers!

INDIGO GELLER: Spooooooon Bender!

RANDI SAN: Oh no, I am defeat of seizure light! It retreats to secret robot fortress! Ha ha ha ha ha ha!

INDIGO SYLVIA: Randi San escape with million dollar.

INDIGO GELLER: Indigo Kids are friend of all woo. Day is safed for now!

*40 minutes of flashing colored frames and annoying Japanese ya ya music.*

:clap: :roll:

[eri]

"A: She uses this information to discern whether a person’s deceased loved one is from their mother’s side of the family, or from their father’s side. If you’re right-handed, your paternal (birth, step, or adoptive) deceased relatives stand near your right side, and your maternal (birth, step, or adoptive) deceased relatives stand near your left side. Deceased siblings and children stand near your left side, and deceased spouses stand behind you. If you’re left handed, the reverse is true."


But what if my loved one wasn't related to me? Are they standing on my foot? Would that explain the pain in my ankle? Can she tell them to get off my ankle? Does this count as 'angelic healing'?

[puleeze]

I for one really do believe in Indigo kids. the evidence on that clip was incontrovertable! c'mon guys! skepticism is great and all but give a rest. for cryin' out loud. How about that testimony given by the allergist? he's been a doctor since 1969!! ll admit he probably should have mentioned what exactly it was that he observed in THESE KIDS.Somethings up.it was because of time constraints that they were not able to show the remarkable mathematic and or musical abilities that clearly the 17 year old girl was capable of performing. I feel in my heart of hearts that this girl was not actually the dreamy lazy avarage surfer that she appeared to be. I could practically SEE the purple coming off her.

[Bronze Dog]

I for one really do believe in Indigo kids. the evidence on that clip was incontrovertable! c'mon guys! skepticism is great and all but give a rest. for cryin' out loud. How about that testimony given by the allergist? he's been a doctor since 1969!! ll admit he probably should have mentioned what exactly it was that he observed in THESE KIDS.Somethings up.it was because of time constraints that they were not able to show the remarkable mathematic and or musical abilities that clearly the 17 year old girl was capable of performing. I feel in my heart of hearts that this girl was not actually the dreamy lazy avarage surfer that she appeared to be. I could practically SEE the purple coming off her.
Excellent sarcasm use for your first post, puleeze. Welcome to the forum.

[Ripley Twenty-Nine]

Common sense people.. Common sense.

When the following conversation takes place,
Woo Psychotherapist: Usually I get an email that will say, "My child is having meltdowns. She can't sleep at night. She says that she sees things in her room. Can you help me?

CNN: What do you say?

Woo: I usually say, "Wow! You're seeing something at night? Do you know that sometimes angels visit at night?" And their eyes will sometimes cloud up, with tears even. Maybe because it's the first time anybody really affirmed for them that what they saw was not crazy."

Common sense dictates that the correct response is,
"How do you see that their eyes are welling up with tears through an E-Mail?"

Seriously.
And when this conversation takes place:
Alergist: "I've been a doctor since 1969, and I notice that kids are a lot more sensitive to things these days"
CNN: "So you can't really discount the idea of Indigo Children?"

The correct response is, of course,
"Well I can't completely discount that idea, I guess, but I also can't completely discount the idea that CNN is run by Sasquatch."

Honestly.

[disfunkster]

But what if my loved one wasn't related to me? Are they standing on my foot? Would that explain the pain in my ankle? Can she tell them to get off my ankle? Does this count as 'angelic healing'?

lol :)

[disfunkster]

No. The reporter is Gary Tuchman.

The woo psychotherapist is named (URL code edited and cut since I am a fourm newbie and am not allowed to post links). Rise and shine?

Thanks, spending some time typing her name into Google.com resulted in at least half a hour of laughter at some of her claims :) I wish CNN.com would be Linux friendly and allow those without Windows Media Player to view their videos :(

[VoloVersio]

CNN: Are there ever times where you wish you were just like the more typical kids, and didn't have any of these kinds of visions or spirits or anything like that?

Sandy: No, life wouldn't be interesting then.

Need I say more?

[disfunkster]

Need I say more?

I think you nailed it :)

[Psi Baba]

I for one really do believe in Indigo kids. the evidence on that clip was incontrovertable! c'mon guys! skepticism is great and all but give a rest. for cryin' out loud. How about that testimony given by the allergist? he's been a doctor since 1969!!
I thought the attribution said he was a gastro-enterologist, in which case, he of all people should be well aware of exactly what these kids are full of.

[2himalayans]

The following quotes are from the "dnaperfection" website. The woman who is running this site is Toby Alexander. If there are so many "indigo" children in the world right now, I would think a triple helix DNA strand would have been discovered by now. How difficult would it for someone who thought they were an indigo child to have their DNA tested? But of course, if it was just the normal two-strand DNA then that particular person really weren't an indigo, which would prove nothing to the believers in this fantasy. I wonder how many DNA tests of supposedly indigo children would need to come up negative to convince believers in indigo children that this is nonsense. I don't know much about DNA or the testing process - if anyone can provide additional info it would be appreciated.

This woman has an answer for everything without ever offering any evidence to back up or prove her claim. I feel sad that this delusion is being perpetrated on young children.

"I have realized recently that the real purpose of my practice is to focus on helping a specific group of people, called Indigo children, awaken to realizing their own true reasons for incarnating here and then quickly removing their blockages by doing these sessions. By rapidly and easily freeing their consciousness, DNA template, and spiritual identity from unnatural energetic blockages and energy "vampires", to reclaim Chistiac self-sovereignty over their personal 15th dimensional anatomy, and perform the DNA bio-regenesis necessary for eventual complete bodily merkabic ascension. If you STRONGLY resonate with the information on my website and feel that this is the reason you are here, then you are probably an Indigo and there is no coincidence that we've come in contact with each other."

"If you do not resonate with this work or actually feel totally put off or even "angry" when you read this information because of your prior experience, "education", beliefs, or because of the soul matrix you incarnated out of, then this is not right for you. It's totally alright because everyone is at their own individual stage of evolution and knowledge, and I realize that I cannot help everyone.

So if you do not resonate with DNA activation, or this is the first time you've ever heard of this and it sounds like a "hoax" or "scam", please just stop reading now and go find a website that you resonate more strongly with. There is no need to waste your energy sending me an e-mail claiming you are a "skeptic" and that you need me to "prove" this to you, or even starting up a website campaign questioning this practice or my character :) I really don't have time to read or respond to these anymore and am just going to concentrate on the work itself. If you refuse to do the research on your own and do not have the frequency receivers to see the possibility of this, then I cannot help you right now. Please come back in a few years after you've done some more spiritual development and study or when the technology and instruments exist for us to measure the effectiveness of this work "scientifically". Mark my words - there will be a Nobel Prize for Medicine and Physiology given to someone in the next 50 years who proves that the original human blueprint for DNA is 12 strands, 12 chemicals(base 12) and 144 chromosomes. If I have to go to medical school to get my M.D. and prove this in a laboratory, I will. I already have plans to do this. But if others beat me to it, so be it. As long as the truth comes out, it doesn't matter. All we have to do is consistently show 3 chemical strands(a triple helix) and a 5th chemical under a microscope and then the game is over. I also plan on raising the frequency of my site to where it will almost be be impossible for the people who are not ready for this work to even land on it. I've learned one can never prove anything to a self-proclaimed skeptic and one can never really help an eternal victim. As quantum physics proves, the Observer affects the Observed."

2 Himalayans :jaw-dropp

[Bronze Dog]

All we have to do is consistently show 3 chemical strands(a triple helix) and a 5th chemical under a microscope and then the game is over.
Yup. That'll prove something weird is going on. I doubt it'll happen, though. And that's exactly why you can't prove anything to us eeeee-ville skeptics: Because the data'll always show we're right.

[VoloVersio]

What a predictable response, even for those who don't posses the "sight"

[RichardR]

Please come back in a few years ....when the technology and instruments exist for us to measure the effectiveness of this work "scientifically". Mark my words - there will be a Nobel Prize for Medicine and Physiology given to someone in the next 50 years who proves that the original human blueprint for DNA is 12 strands, 12 chemicals(base 12) and 144 chromosomes. If I have to go to medical school to get my M.D. and prove this in a laboratory, I will. I already have plans to do this.

(My bold.)

If the instruments don't exist yet, and no one had "proven" it yet - how does she know it's true?

[RichardR]

btw we had a good thread here on Indigo Children (http://206.225.95.123/forumlive/showthread.php?t=11657&highlight=indigo).

[c4ts]

I was disappointed by the fluff piece. I was hoping to see some real live dead people, but noooo.

[zakur]

Here's a story from ABCNEws.com: Parents Claim Their Kids Have Psychic Powers (http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/AmericanFamily/story?id=1332961)

The Glovers believe Angelina, now 10, and her three younger sibling are among a group of children called Indigo, so named because of the blue aura some say they see surrounding them. Indigo children are described as highly accomplished, deeply spiritual and gifted with psychic abilities. They often talk about speaking with God, angels or people who have died.

[...]

Skeptics, however, believe these children may be autistic, have attention deficit disorder or suffer from some other behavior disorder.

"No rigorous scientific tests have proven the existence of these so called paranormal gifts," said Dr. David Stein, author of "Stop Medicating, Start Parenting."

Indigo children are often rebellious to authority, nonconformist, extremely emotional and sometimes physically sensitive or fragile. The Glovers say when their children are exposed to things they are not used to like sugar and junk food, they will act up, but insist their behavior is due to a gift, not a problem.

[...]

The Glovers said they knew their son, Suriel, 7, was Indigo when Tammy observed him pensively eating an apple. When she asked him when he was thinking of, he replied, "the apple's life," tracing back the steps from apple seed back to apple again, according to his mother. The Glovers said Maielaya, 4, is Tammy's mother reincarnated, which they believe because Maielaya has lucid memories of her grandmother who died before she was born. Baby Orion, 2, is too young to express his Indigo abilities, according to the Glovers, but he likes to call himself "Buddha."

"These experiences are very amazing and we do have them," said Angelina, who says she sees fairies and purportedly knows things before they happen. "More importantly, we have a message and that message is the we are all Indigo. All we have to do is open up and forgive. Then we will be free to really know God."

[valis]

When I was a kid, parents just whipped our asses, and told us to pay attention. Of course, in those days, we burned up our excess energy and purged our wild imaginations playing outside. So there wasn't as much opportunity for grown-ups to see how "special" we were and assign some BS diagnosis.


I remember that! I used to wear an onion on my belt, as was the fashion at the time. And nickles had pictures of bumble bees on them. "Give me five bees for a quarter we used to say........"