A Continent Bleeds

[Tony]

http://www.nationalreview.com/goldberg/goldberg050300.asp full article


Throw a dart at a map of Sub-Saharan Africa. Assuming you don’t hit a remote wilderness, you will doubtless hit an area of the world where: AIDS is rampant, extreme hunger prevalent, corruption endemic, animal species endangered, and so on. (Before I go much further, please spare me the indignant e-mail saying, "What about the prosperous and peace-loving people of Botswana!?!" There will be plenty of stuff further down to get indignant about. Indeed, further disclosure: This ain’t a funny column.)

Africa is a mess. It is a mess by any civilized measure of human progress. It is a mess by most uncivilized measures of human progress. If you do not think so, you are plagued by a paternalistic and racist notion of what progress is.

In Sierra Leone, children have had their arms lopped off by rebels. These mass amputations took place while the United States bombed Kosovo. South Africa is so besieged by rapists that celebrities are cutting public-service ads asking young men to refrain. In Zimbabwe, the government has declared war on white farmers who produce most of the food for the country. In nation after nation, warlords and rebel generals harass and murder by the thousands — motivated by no discernible ideology except clannish ambition, cruelty, and greed. There has been a holocaust rolling across Africa for decades, and nobody cares.

By my rough calculation, AIDS and malaria kill more Africans in one year than handguns have "killed" Americans in the history of the US. Half of all Zambians are expected to eventually die from AIDS. Somewhere between 13% and 50% of Zambian children have been orphaned by the disease. One of the reasons that Africa has such high infection rates is that many African men believe they can be cured of the disease by having sex with a young virgin. Just last month South Africa’s President, Thabo Mbeki, wrote a letter to world leaders claiming that AIDS was a "uniquely African" catastrophe and therefore rich white nations had no right to denounce his country’s "alternative" treatments. Even in the few countries where murder, mayhem, and disease are "under control," corruption and poverty are staples of everyday life.

A TRULY GREAT AMERICA
Conservatives have been enjoying a healthy debate for the last few years on something called "American Greatness." The idea, mostly pushed by our friends at The Weekly Standard, is a fairly amorphous notion that America should do big things to fulfill its destiny, and conservatives should not shy from the idea that government must do these big things. Libertarians and economic conservatives have been very fond of teeing off on this idea, largely because the Greatness crowd is at pains to offer some good examples of what these big things would be. Most of the things they suggest were already done by Teddy Roosevelt or Andrew Jackson. Unfortunately, greatness conservatives are slow to realize that we do not live in an age where we need another department of agriculture, some more land-grant colleges, or a push to bust the trusts. This obvious fact often has the result of making these guys sound more like troublemakers. (They like to invoke "creative destruction" a lot. What the "creative" part describes is To Be Announced, but the "destruction" part is largely a euphemism for the Republican party.)

One putative Greatness Conservative is Charles Krauthammer. He recently made a powerful case in The Weekly Standard for sending men to Mars. I agree with Krauthammer. Great civilizations create great cathedrals, and the cathedrals of this generation should be in outer space. Cathedrals inspire rich and poor people alike to believe great things are possible. The Mars Polar Lander cost the average American the price of half a cheeseburger. A human lander would cost the average American more — perhaps even ten cheeseburgers! So be it. That is no great sacrifice.

But if great sacrifice is the measure of true greatness, then the answer does not lie on the surface of Mars. One need only look to the area on this planet where it appears time is moving in the wrong direction. The average African is indisputably worse off today than he was thirty or forty years ago. Of what other place can you say such a thing?

LET'S GO TO AFRICA
Last summer, two teenage boys from Guinea, Yaguine Koita, 14, and Fode Tounkara,15, sneaked into the wheel well of a plane bound for Europe. These boys wanted a better life in the North. They never got it. They froze to death in 55-degrees-below-zero weather at 35,000 feet. But they had carried a letter, stuffed under their layers of clothes, written in the eventuality of their death.

''Excellencies, Messrs. members and officials of Europe," they began. "…. if you see that we have sacrificed and risked our lives, it is because there is too much suffering in Africa and we need you to struggle against poverty and put an end to war in Africa." The handwriting was poor and the grammar even worse but the humility of the plea was powerful. ''Finally, we appeal to you to excuse us very, very much for daring to write this letter to the great personages to whom we owe much respect..." These boys did not want the world to forget Africa as it moved on its merry way to the 21st century. Alas, that’s exactly what seems to be happening.

The letter set off a heated debate in Europe about the obligations of colonialists to their former colonies


Yes, this would seem imperial, for there would certainly be wars declared against us. French writers would break their pencils in defiance of the American Empire. Kofi Annan would need a pacemaker. Pat Buchanan would move to Canada. But being imperial is not necessarily a bad thing. The British Empire decided unilaterally that the global practice of slavery was a crime against God and man, and they set out to stop it. They didn’t care about the "sovereignty" of other nations when it came to an evil institution. They didn’t care about the "rule of international law," they made law with the barrel of a cannon.

Recently, we’ve heard a lot from the Left about how great Cuba is because it has free health care. American liberals are perfectly willing to countenance Cuba’s state-sanctioned murder and the abrogation of virtually all civil rights in exchange for free mammograms and tonsillectomies. Ending poverty and hunger — barely — ought to be worth a mighty price for these men and women who spout daily about the right to burn flags and receive government payments for artfully arranged fecal matter. One wonders what they would be willing to accept for African children to grow up with arms and families intact.

As for what conservatives would be willing to accept, I have no idea.

But I have a sense quite a few of them will tell me.


Africa is a hellhole. Something radical needs to be done to pull that continent out of the 6 th century.

[corplinx]

Go to the majority negro cities of america and you will find aids, people killing each other, all that jazz. Is there a common factor?

[Bjorn]

Originally posted by corplinx
Go to the majority negro cities of america and you will find aids, people killing each other, all that jazz. Is there a common factor? Go to the majority cities of america and you will find aids, people killing each other, all that jazz. Is there a common factor? :confused:

[Tony]

Originally posted by corplinx
Go to the majority negro cities of america and you will find aids, people killing each other, all that jazz. Is there a common factor?


I hope not.

[corplinx]

Originally posted by Bjorn
Go to the majority cities of america and you will find aids, people killing each other, all that jazz. Is there a common factor? :confused:

I thought the latest statistics showed that negroes had a _much_ larger rate of aids infection than other races in the same geographic areas of America. I also thought that the murder rates were highest in areas where the majority of people are black. I could be wrong. I want to be.

I guess that poverty would be the most common factor?

[Bjorn]

Originally posted by corplinx


I thought the latest statistics showed that negroes had a _much_ larger rate of aids infection than other races in the same geographic areas of America. I also thought that the murder rates were highest in areas where the majority of people are black. I could be wrong. I want to be.

I guess that poverty would be the most common factor? AIDS cases by race, from 1981 until now:

................................whites............ ......blacks

United States......... 337,035...............301,784
California..................74,145 ................21,714
San Francisco..........20,651.................. 3,413

http://www.aidshotline.org/crm/asp/refer/statistics/stats_race.asp

I also guess poverty (or rather the environment one grows up in) influences murder rates. :(

Jazz - I love it myself. :p

[jj]

Originally posted by corplinx
Go to the majority negro cities of america and you will find aids, people killing each other, all that jazz. Is there a common factor?
Bullpucky. Go to majority white cities and you find whte people there doing all of the same things.

[hammegk]

Originally posted by jj

Bullpucky. Go to majority white cities and you find whte people there doing all of the same things.

You have some facts you'd like to share that backs up that assertion?

[corplinx]

I have jj on ignore, but I see his reply from the previous post. I didnt say that other races dont have the same problems. I was talking about the evidence that it occurs _at higher rates_.

[The Fool]

Originally posted by hammegk


You have some facts you'd like to share that backs up that assertion?
Hammy.
Even a racist such as your good self is surely not suggesting that whites are not affected by Disease or are not killing each other.
One day you are going to realise that crime rates are linked to poverty and social factors and not the colour of someones skin.

wake up....

[corplinx]

Originally posted by The Fool

Hammy.
Even a racist such as your good self is surely not suggesting that whites are not affected by Disease or are not killing each other.
One day you are going to realise that crime rates are linked to poverty and social factors and not the colour of someones skin.

wake up....

I wondered when someone would pull out the "R" word.

[hammegk]

Originally posted by The Fool

One day you are going to realise that crime rates are linked to poverty and social factors and not the colour of someones skin.



Even a politically correct fool such as yourself may eventually look at facts and statistics rather than happy wishes. And BTW, you seem overly worried by skin color; I'm not. IQ is a much better predictor of success in "our" civilized worlds.


And yes jj, all humans have similar afflictions -- we are discussing a matter of degree. Do you concur the US AIDS stats show a large over-representation of blacks?

[Tricky]

You see strong correlations in almost all countries between:
poverty and lack of education
poverty and crime
poverty and AIDS
poverty and illigimate children
poverty and infant mortality
poverty and lifespan (inverse relationship)

I think you will find these correlations to be true regardless of race or religion.

Now what is to be done about this? I don't have a cure-all plan. I believe that there must be a balance between capitalism and socialism that allows people to succeed with hard work (capitalism), but not be condemned to a life of poverty because of the circumstances into which they were born (socialism).

[DavidJames]

"I thought the latest statistics showed that negroes had a _much_ larger rate of aids infection than other races in the same geographic areas"

Since Bjorn provided stats which refute this claim, I'm curious where you get your stats from.

"negroes" :eek:

[Skeptical Greg]

Originally posted by DavidJames
"I thought the latest statistics showed that negroes had a _much_ larger rate of aids infection than other races in the same geographic areas"

Since Bjorn provided stats which refute this claim, I'm curious where you get your stats from.



Actually he didn't (refute the claim) , since according to the 1999 Census, the Black population in the U.S. was about 13% of the total. I don't believe it has increased by a significant amount since then.

Based on Bjorns figures, the disparity is pretty staggering.
1999 Census Figures (http://www.census.gov/prod/2000pubs/p20-530.pdf)

I'd feel a lot better if someone could refute those numbers..

[Tricky]

Originally posted by Diogenes


Actually he didn't (refute the claim) , since according to the 1999 Census, the Black population in the U.S. was about 13% of the total. I don't believe it has increased by a significant amout since then.

Based on Bjorns figures, the disparity is pretty staggering.
1999 Census Figures (http://www.census.gov/prod/2000pubs/p20-530.pdf)

I'd feel a lot better if someone could refute those numbers..
And I'd guess that that the disparity of how many Blacks live in poverty compared to the average in the US is pretty staggering too. Some have proposed that this is because of racial inferiority. What do you think?

[Skeptical Greg]

Originally posted by Tricky

And I'd guess that that the disparity of how many Blacks live in poverty compared to the average in the US is pretty staggering too. Some have proposed that this is because of racial inferiority. What do you think?

On the assumption that this is not a rhetorical question, my answer would be, that I am personally appalled and saddened, when anyone is treated inferiorly because of the color of their skin.

Unfortunately, this is a disease (racism) that is still rampant in the U.S., as well as other places in the world.

I propose that anyone who displays such behaviour, is a shining light, for the sorry state of human spiritual evolution.

[corplinx]

I think we have officially hijacked this thread. Anyone with anything more to say about the plight of the African negro?

[Skeptical Greg]

Originally posted by corplinx
I think we have officially hijacked this thread. Anyone with anything more to say about the plight of the African negro?

We?:confused:

[Bjorn]

Originally posted by Diogenes


Actually he didn't (refute the claim) , since according to the 1999 Census, the Black population in the U.S. was about 13% of the total. I don't believe it has increased by a significant amount since then.

Based on Bjorns figures, the disparity is pretty staggering.
1999 Census Figures (http://www.census.gov/prod/2000pubs/p20-530.pdf)

I'd feel a lot better if someone could refute those numbers.. You are right in many ways. However:

In year 2000, 59.5% of California's population were whites. 60% of the AIDS cases until now were whites - a nice correlation.

6.7% of the population were blacks, while 17% of the AIDS cases were blacks - an over-representation.

32.4% of the population were latinos, while 20% of the AIDS cases were latinos.

In other words, whites have exactly as much AIDS as we should expect, latinos have less and blacks more. Maybe blacks just have more sex? :p

[Skeptical Greg]

Originally posted by Bjorn
You are right in many ways. However:

In year 2000, 59.5% of California's population were whites. 60% of the AIDS cases until now were whites - a nice correlation.

6.7% of the population were blacks, while 17% of the AIDS cases were blacks - an over-representation.

32.4% of the population were latinos, while 20% of the AIDS cases were latinos.

In other words, whites have exactly as much AIDS as we should expect, latinos have less and blacks more. Maybe blacks just have more sex? :p

Perhaps it says something about the difference in an immune factor among the various populations. I trust someone is looking into that..

[a_unique_person]

Originally posted by corplinx
I have jj on ignore, but I see his reply from the previous post. I didnt say that other races dont have the same problems. I was talking about the evidence that it occurs _at higher rates_.

That's funny, cause I have Hamegk on ignore. JJ makes more sense than Hammy ever could.

[corplinx]

Originally posted by a_unique_person


That's funny, cause I have Hamegk on ignore. JJ makes more sense than Hammy ever could.

I've never had cause to put Hammy on ignore. Of course, I ignored the whole "Hammy and slavery" thread. Mostly I notice he chimes in with a quip or short observation in most threads.

[Tony]

Originally posted by DavidJames

"negroes" :eek:

Watch out guys, the PC thought police is on the prowl.

[fishbob]

Tony is right: Africa is a hellhole.
And not just Sub-Saharan Africa, but the whole enchilada. Can that continent ever be pulled or pushed into the modern world? I suspect that an African country would have to take the lead, the lead country would need lots of international help, and the process would take at least a century.

[Jon_in_london]

Originally posted by DavidJames


"negroes" :eek:

Whats wrong with calling someone (of African descent) a negro?

I dont think that there is any genetic reason why Africans and persons of African descent (thats negros to most sane people), are typically worse off than others. I do think there are cultural reasons.

These cultural reasons are in part the fault of non-African societies, that slavery and imperialism have had a strongly negative impact on Africa and African descendend persons is undeniable and should be acknowledged.

However, I do belive that there is a cultural problem with Africans and persons of African descent in general. ie: the 'I was enslaved/colonised/oppressed etc... which gives me an excuse to be anti-social/anti-nationstate and generally sit around and demand freebies as reperations while simulatenously blaming my sorry situation entirely on colonialist/neo-colonialist westerner scum rather than working to improve my lot'.

Yes I know this is a generalisation. It doesnt apply to everyone. But I lived in Africa for 25 years and what I have said above is- by my decades of observation- a very rough and crude analysis of why Africa is up ****-creek.

[a_unique_person]

What can I say, I post a thread

http://host.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18081&highlight=foreign

that is about the future of foreign aid, and how it can work, and what we have learned, and it gets 0 posts.

Here we have a thread about how pathetic Africa is, and it is getting posts.

My own take on Africa is that if you look at the background to 90% of the reasons for misery in Africa, you find a civil war. And the civil war is due to country borders that were drawn by colonial powers with no recognition at all of the existing tribal structures.

Given that much of the wars are about the tribal versus country borders, if the continent of Africa was re-organised on tribal lines, much of the reasons for war and misery for be gone, and standard development could continue.

As for this article, the author is a racist prick.

[Tony]

Originally posted by a_unique_person
As for this article, the author is a racist prick.

How?

[a_unique_person]

Originally posted by Tony


How?


For the reasons I have just stated. He lays the blame directly at their feet, but conveniently ignores the overwhelming influence of colonialism over the past century or so. The societies lived there for thousands of years, which is an undeniable sign of a self sustaining society, yet in a short period of time, they have become self-abusing.

Pick the factor that turned everything upside down.

[aerocontrols]

I posted (http://host.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&postid=226538#post226538) this article and the follow-on article some time ago.

I'm all for it.

So are some Africans (http://www.zwnews.com/issuefull.cfm?ArticleID=6629):

The factories of Zimbabwe were deserted yesterday, its crumbling streets empty and even the government's Mercedes Benz suppliers closed as an estimated 90 per cent of the country's workers went on a general strike. The protest, called by the Zimbabwe Congress of Trade Unions and backed by the opposition Movement for Democratic Change, was triggered by a 300 per cent fuel price rise ordered by Robert Mugabe's government. Among the businesses paralysed by the strike was Zimbabwe's most profitable vehicle company. Its workshops were locked up, 10 new Mercedes Benz E240 saloons inside them awaiting delivery to Mr Mugabe's cabinet. A further 22 are due to arrive later this week. The total cost of the order has been estimated to be equivalent to two weeks' fuel supply for the entire country. On the eve of the strike workers at the firm had been seething. "If only George Bush would come here and Saddam us," said one. "But he won't and so we will have to strike, and be arrested and beaten. We have no choice. The ministers break the cars that we pay for and get new ones and we pay for those too. We have no fuel, no food, no medicines at the hospitals, and Mugabe doesn't care."

MattJ

[aerocontrols]

Originally posted by a_unique_person



For the reasons I have just stated. He lays the blame directly at their feet, but conveniently ignores the overwhelming influence of colonialism over the past century or so. The societies lived there for thousands of years, which is an undeniable sign of a self sustaining society, yet in a short period of time, they have become self-abusing.

Pick the factor that turned everything upside down.

From the second article, which Tony apparently didn't know about:

I never meant to suggest that the United States Army should "simply" occupy every hamlet and village and impose order on an unwilling and hostile populace. Order is not civilization. The whole point is to enlighten, not just dominate. That means building schools and churches and markets (with enforceable contracts!). The U.S. military would be necessary for carving out a zone of sanity and safety where such things could be done. It might also be necessary to erase a lot of the pernicious boundaries created by the colonialists, borders that were designed to pit tribe against tribe.

MattJ

[a_unique_person]

Originally posted by aerocontrols
I posted (http://host.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&postid=226538#post226538) this article and the follow-on article some time ago.

I'm all for it.

So are some Africans (http://www.zwnews.com/issuefull.cfm?ArticleID=6629):



MattJ

Yet if you look at the Phillipines, for example, they kept going with their strikes and civil disobedience, and people power alone was enough to overthrow the government. Fortunately, they also had some friends inside the military who also wanted democracy to win over totalitarianism.

[aerocontrols]

Originally posted by a_unique_person


Yet if you look at the Phillipines, for example, they kept going with their strikes and civil disobedience, and people power alone was enough to overthrow the government. Fortunately, they also had some friends inside the military who also wanted democracy to win over totalitarianism.

Except that:

And the civil war is due to country borders that were drawn by colonial powers with no recognition at all of the existing tribal structures.

This is a problem that the Phillipinos never had. You also list an advantage that they had, that most African countries do not have.

Your recommendation:

if the continent of Africa was re-organised on tribal lines, much of the reasons for war and misery for be gone, and standard development could continue.

Seems difficult to implement to me, without doing something rather along the lines of Goldberg's suggestion. What is your plan for a Phillipine-like rebuilding of Africa whereby the borders are shifted without outside intervention?

MattJ

[Jon_in_london]

Originally posted by a_unique_person

That is about the future of foreign aid, and how it can work, and what we have learned, and it gets 0 posts.


Foreign AID is useless as it simply encourages the hand-out mentality.

Originally posted by a_unique_person
My own take on Africa is that if you look at the background to 90% of the reasons for misery in Africa, you find a civil war. And the civil war is due to country borders that were drawn by colonial powers with no recognition at all of the existing tribal structures.


Never been any civil war in Malawi but its one of the poorest countrys on the globe. Zambia is also in a bad way but there has never been a war in which Zambia was involved. Never been civil war in Botswana but they aint so hot either and they are a single tribe in a nation-state. Lesotho is also a single tribe nation-state but yet a few years back armed intervention was required to prop-up the elected government. While Zimbabwe had some war 23 years ago, its current state of shithood has nothing to do with the war. Wars DO make things worse but they are more a symptom rather than the underlying sickness.

Originally posted by a_unique_person
Given that much of the wars are about the tribal versus country borders, if the continent of Africa was re-organised on tribal lines, much of the reasons for war and misery for be gone, and standard development could continue.


Which would mean chopping Africa up into a patchwork of principlaties few of which would be viable nation-states.
And afterwards- they can all fight each other in proper wars rather than just civil wars? Just like they did before the evil white-man came along?

Originally posted by a_unique_person
As for this article, the author is a racist prick.

RACE CARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TRUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:rolleyes:

[Sundog]

Originally posted by corplinx
I have jj on ignore, but I see his reply from the previous post. I didnt say that other races dont have the same problems. I was talking about the evidence that it occurs _at higher rates_.

You have jj on ignore? Your loss, my friend.

Same to you AUP for ignoring hammegk.

[Jon_in_london]

By the way, anyone wondering why Africa is in the state it is in should look at whats been happening with Winnie Mandela these past 10 years or so.

Winnie (estranged wife of Nelson) was convicted of kidnapping a young black boy. A crime that normally carries a hefty prison sentence (25 years or so). How much prison time do you think Winnie got? that right folks! Absolutely none at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

She was implicated in the murder of the same black youth but nothing more was said.

Recently she was convicted on more counts of fraud and theft than you can shake a stick at. Maximum sentence 15 years. Winnie gets 8 months!!!!! Now if you or me did the same, do you think WE would get off so lightly, or do you think the fact that she is a high-profile ANC MP has something to do with the judges sentence??!? Do you think this is good and healthy for a nation?

Also COSAS, an ANC affiliated students union of which Winnie is the Pres has threatened to call a stike and even burn down the prison whe is being held in!!!!! Why? because the court that convicted her was RASCIST!!!!!

:rolleyes:

So the real reason that Africa is in its current state of shithood has less to do with colonialism and very much to do with corruption, nepotism, megalomania and African politicians stealing and embezzling thier nations precious resources for their own personal agrandisment.

[Ian Osborne]

Originally posted by Jon_in_london
do you think WE would get off so lightly, or do you think the fact that [Winnie Mandela] is a high-profile ANC MP has something to do with the judges sentence??!? Do you think this is good and healthy for a nation?

Seconded, but don't think this is a uniquely African problem. What about William Calley? (http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/mylai/mylai.htm) Richard Nixon was granted immunity from prosecution by Gerald Ford, and closer to home, Jeremy Thorpe had his murder trial posponed until after a general election and then was let off the hook by the prosecution.

Influence sucks - everywhere!

[Jon_in_london]

Originally posted by Ian Osborne


Seconded, but don't think this is a uniquely African problem. What about William Calley? (http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/mylai/mylai.htm) Richard Nixon was granted immunity from prosecution by Gerald Ford, and closer to home, Jeremy Thorpe had his murder trial posponed until after a general election and then was let off the hook by the prosecution.

Influence sucks - everywhere!

I absolutely agree that its not just an African problem. The level of corruption in the UK is sickening- more so because its so blatant and nobody makes any noise about it.

But then, the US&UK arent facing starvation etc... are they?

[Mike B.]

This is a sad subject. I don't have the answers. I have worked with Africans who have said things like, "People in the West have no idea how good you have it."

Probably true...

I doubt simply redrawing borders would work. How many countries would you have instead of 53?

200?

2000?

[Q-Source]

Originally posted by corplinx
Go to the majority negro cities of america and you will find aids, people killing each other, all that jazz. Is there a common factor?

White oppresion

This thread is disgusting.

"American Greatness." oh yeah :rolleyes:

Enjoy it!

[a_unique_person]

Originally posted by Jon_in_london


Foreign AID is useless as it simply encourages the hand-out mentality.



Did you even read the link? It talks about that point exactly.



Never been any civil war in Malawi but its one of the poorest countrys on the globe. Zambia is also in a bad way but there has never been a war in which Zambia was involved. Never been civil war in Botswana but they aint so hot either and they are a single tribe in a nation-state. Lesotho is also a single tribe nation-state but yet a few years back armed intervention was required to prop-up the elected government. While Zimbabwe had some war 23 years ago, its current state of shithood has nothing to do with the war. Wars DO make things worse but they are more a symptom rather than the underlying sickness.



Which would mean chopping Africa up into a patchwork of principlaties few of which would be viable nation-states.
And afterwards- they can all fight each other in proper wars rather than just civil wars? Just like they did before the evil white-man came along?



RACE CARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TRUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:rolleyes:

The story of Modern Malawi is the story of it's ruler, Dr Banda. He was a tyrannical despot who set the stage for it's poverty.

It has also been subject to the slave trade, recently serious drought, overpopulation due to a ban on birth control, refugees from wars in neighbouring states, and aids.

http://www.angelfire.com/mac/egmatthews/worldinfo/africa/malawi.html

As my link points out, the emphasis on aid is to change it from simple charity to be more education based. Singapore, for example, has no natural resources, but a very high standard of living. The aids problem, which apparently affects 1/3 of those sexually active, would be improved immensely with the use of condoms and eduction.

[Hypocolius]

Originally posted by a_unique_person


The story of Modern Malawi is the story of it's ruler, Dr Banda.

Do you mean His Excellency, The Life President, Nyadzi, Dr Hastings Kamuzu Banda, Father of our people, Leader of our nation, footballer of the year 1992?

[Badger]

Originally posted by Q-Source


White oppresion

This thread is disgusting.

"American Greatness." oh yeah :rolleyes:

Enjoy it!

It's my opinion that you're barking up the wrong tree.

I feel the tree you should be barking up is the one of tribalism and superstition. It seems to me that what's going on in Africa, and indeed any troubled part of the world, be it North/South Ireland, Pakistan/Kashmir/India/Afghanistan, Kurds/Sunni/Shiite, Chechnya, Crips/Bloods can be traced to these two roots.

It could be argued that imperialism is tribalism on a broader scale, I suppose.