Woo of the Week

[Rolfe]

Have you seen the rest of the post he snipped it from (it's not actually on the page Kumar linked to, BTW; it's on page 2 of the thread)? That looks like this week's "Woo of the Week" winner right there.This nomination from Mojo of a post quoted by Kumar is such a worthy contender that I believe it merits its own thread. The full post is here. http://www.otherhealth.com/showthread.php?postid=65170#post65170 (strange forum structure makes it very difficult to follow the threads I'm afraid).Research and experimentation led to a significant discovery about the nature of matter, and its relation to electromagnetic fields. This discovery, which is called Potential Mass Theory, is essential to the understanding and accurate measurement of electromagnetic fields, and thus all paranormal phenomena.According to the Einstein equation, E mC all manifested (physical) matter is composed of; and animated by, a large electrical field of energy, measured in units called Joules. Conversely, every measurable field of electromagnetic energy is capable of manifesting as a certain amount of mass, m, as determined by the Einstein equation.The reality of manifestation, however, is that some energies remain electromagnetic, and do not manifest as mass, and some energies that do manifest retain large amounts of uninanifested energy as mental or life force energy. Thus, inherent in electromagnetic field energy is a potential to manifest as physical matter, or mass. In other words, all that exists in the Universe must be either physical or metaphysical (manifest or non-manifest). Potential Mass Theory states that if an object or entity does not have actual mass, it must have the potential to manifest as mass, or to have effect upon mass through the quantum particles. Electromagnetic energy that is not manifest cannot have physical mass, and thus can only have Potential Mass, by definition. Experiments and research have shown that such electromagnetic fields can be measured by radio-field voltage, using a sensitive digital voltmeter connected to a sensitive multifrequency antenna. Placing the antenna in the location of a subtle energy field or metaphysical object will cause the voltmeter to record the precise voltage contained in the electromagnetic field. This voltage reading is very important, because we may use it to calculate much useful information about the nature of the metaphysical body in question.And there's lots more where that came from. We have to bear in mind, however, that it has been pointed out that this is a poster who boasts of drinking his own urine every day.

Rolfe.

PS. Damn, that link still doesn't get the relevant post. You need to check the ythread menu and identify a post called "cellsalts sajjad said : < You can... (http://www.otherhealth.com/showthread.php?postid=65253#post65253) 24th November 2005, 11:24 AM." (no idea if that link will go there either)

PPS. Yes, it does! Click on the link in the PS for the correst post.

[flume]

It fits in nicely with her (?) first post on otherhealth in the Chi Kung topic:
"Physics and maths are my weakest subjects at school and college but I have a great interest in sympathetic vibratory physics."

Wow, that papimi page that Lew (cellsalts) links to is quite something, although almost unreadable what with the different sizes of fonts. Pappas thinks the sodium potassium pump idea is all wrong; what really happens is that the sodium goes into the cell and transmutes into potassium in a cold nuclear reaction. Well, now it's all clear to me.

[MRC_Hans]

I was about to quote the text Rolfe quoted, to pick it apart, pointing out each error, as I have sometimes done with such texts.

Then, reading through it I decided instead, for simplicity, to quote only such statements that were correct.

Here:

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I have rarely seen such unadulterated nonsense. Not only are ALL the claims made totally wrong, but the conclusions made do not even follow logically from the wrong premises.

I don't believe it is possible to write such nonsense in an otherwise coherent language, and not be aware that you are making it up. This text is intentionally fradulent.

Hans

[Kumar]

On clicking on that link. I get the same page. May be I logged in their/or otherwise.:D

As indicated, I was also not comfortable with that post, so posted for expert's & unbiased people's comments.:)

However, anyone can think anytype & try to link any theory, till science don't tell/discover it.:) So pls let the show/process of dicovery go on in science, and pursue accordingly to add/aid to the science process. Best wishes for it.:)

[Kumar]

I was about to quote the text Rolfe quoted, to pick it apart, pointing out each error, as I have sometimes done with such texts.

Then, reading through it I decided instead, for simplicity, to quote only such statements that were correct.

Here:


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I have rarely seen such unadulterated nonsense. Not only are ALL the claims made totally wrong, but the conclusions made do not even follow logically from the wrong premises.

I don't believe it is possible to write such nonsense in an otherwise coherent language, and not be aware that you are making it up. This text is intentionally fradulent.

Hans

Sorry, but you might have mostly solved this issue in your above post, somewhat in that link's favour.

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[MRC_Hans]

Kumar, seriously: That article is a good example of why your idea of pursuing science does not work. You can put any amount of technical words together, and they need not make one iota of sense.

Essentially, you are doing just the same; just putting things together randomly, hoping something will work.

... And I can assure you that discovery IS going on in science, but fortunately in a rather more systematic and logical way.


Hans

[Kumar]

Kumar, seriously: That article is a good example of why your idea of pursuing science does not work. You can put any amount of technical words together, and they need not make one iota of sense.

Essentially, you are doing just the same; just putting things together randomly, hoping something will work.

... And I can assure you that discovery IS going on in science, but fortunately in a rather more systematic and logical way.


Hans

I have no relavance of this theory to our dicussions. Therefore not agree & furthur tried with you. You mentioned point . & two .. so I just remarked, prime force(.) and its aggragation(..).:D

[Zep]

I have no relavance of this theory to our dicussions. Therefore not agree & furthur tried with you. You mentioned point . & two .. so I just remarked, prime force(.) and its aggragation(..).Kumar, try not to accidentally lean on the keyboard so much before you post - it throws all sorts of spurious characters into your text and deletes the important stuff...

[MRC_Hans]

I have no relavance of this theory to our dicussions. Therefore not agree & furthur tried with you. You mentioned point . & two .. so I just remarked, prime force(.) and its aggragation(..).:DKumar, it is not a theory. It is simply gibberish. I will credit you for being suspicious of it, that may show you are not totally at a loss, but it is not a theory, it is nonsense. A theory is based on something, like logic or observations, or both. This text is just some fraud jotting down thechnical phrases, more or less randomly.

And, unfortunately, so are most of the things you write.

Hans

[Kumar]

Kumar, it is not a theory. It is simply gibberish. I will credit you for being suspicious of it, that may show you are not totally at a loss, but it is not a theory, it is nonsense. A theory is based on something, like logic or observations, or both. This text is just some fraud jotting down thechnical phrases, more or less randomly.

And, unfortunately, so are most of the things you write.

Hans

Can "prime one force(assume)", fundamental forces and primary particles make or can be made into their complexes by aggragation, concentation etc?

[Mojo]

Can "prime one force(assume)", fundamental forces and primary particles make or can be made into their complexes by aggragation, concentation etc?Could you try typing that again, please? And this time, try to make sure it makes some sort of sense before you post it.

[brodski]

Could you try typing that again, please? And this time, try to make sure it makes some sort of sense before you post it.
Mojo, I never expected you to believe in parnormal events ;)

[Kumar]

Could you try typing that again, please? And this time, try to make sure it makes some sort of sense before you post it.

See by example. Can

. or .... or ~ = -\jhoyfddrer$cvf?.......

by itself or by interferances?

Try your dynamic intellectual.

:D

[Mojo]

See by example. Can

. or .... or ~ = -\jhoyfddrer$cvf?.......

by itself or by interferances?

Try your dynamic intellectual.

:DIt makes as much sense as pretty much anything else you've posted.

[flume]

We have to bear in mind, however, that it has been pointed out that this is a poster who boasts of drinking his own urine every day.

New post from cellsalts (Lew) in that otherhealth topic. Oh dear, oh dear.

http://www.otherhealth.com/showpost.php?p=65296&postcount=16

[Kell]

Research and experimentation [...] the nature of the metaphysical body in question.

I have no idea what this means. And neither does the poster I bet. It is spectacular! It crosses some line into the realms occupied by B-movie scripts and metallized pictures of unicorns, which is to say: so awful it's inimitably brilliant! You cannot fake stuff like this. Reading the whole post makes my brain hum like a theremin o_O

[Mojo]

New post from cellsalts (Lew) in that otherhealth topic. Oh dear, oh dear.

http://www.otherhealth.com/showpost.php?p=65296&postcount=16Even more alarmingly, the post of Kumar's quoted there actually seems to be making a valid point (albeit in characteristically tortured English)! Originally Posted by kayveeh
Hello, btw can you tell how urine therapy can work? Body loosing those chemicals which are excess/imbalanced/not required in body. How then it can help unless we are loosing in excess due to some disorded as protiens? :jaw-dropp

[MRC_Hans]

But notice where it is leading: Proteins. Kumar makes allowance for his theories about renal insulin regulation.

Devious, he is.

Hans

[Mojo]

But notice where it is leading: Proteins. Kumar makes allowance for his theories about renal insulin regulation.

Devious, he is. Well then, if Kumar thinks he may be losing too much insulin in his urine, the solution is obvious!

Nauseating, but obvious. :D

[MRC_Hans]

No, because you cannot drink insulin. Insulin can, currently, only be injected. There are inhaler devices under development, but they are not very efficient.

Hans

[Mojo]

No, because you cannot drink insulin. I know, but I didn't imagine Kumar would know this. Now you've given the game away. ;)

[Harlequin]

Interestingly, my Kumarese-English translator comes up with this translation in English:

Scientist-types have an idea about matter and energy, called Potential Mass Theory (PMT). This is important for everything, according to Einstein, because energy is mass etc. Actually, not all energy is mass. Everything is either physical or not-physical and PMT says that any energy could become mass, so everything is either mass or “potential mass”. It is possible to measure electromagnetic fields quite accurately, which is quite important.

Although not actually stated, it looks like this is going to lead to some apparently exciting measurements of "potential mass" (otherwise known as magnetic fields). An interesting theory, which seems to just replace the word "energy" with "potential mass". Wow.

[Kumar]

It makes as much sense as pretty much anything else you've posted.

You mean; "omni..", infinite but indescribable. I aske you to use your dynamic intellectual which everyone has.:)

I am nor trying to into the bottom of maths/geometical figures.

12345.12345

C . P

. being the homeostatic stage.

100000.100000
000001.000001

Does these make some sense?

Sorry, I am also not able to understand but irritating me to make some dynamic theory.:)

[Goshawk]

I have no idea what this means. And neither does the poster I bet. It is spectacular! It crosses some line into the realms occupied by B-movie scripts and metallized pictures of unicorns, which is to say: so awful it's inimitably brilliant! You cannot fake stuff like this. Reading the whole post makes my brain hum like a theremin o_OWelcome to the Wonderful World of Kumar. Can I assume you've been lurking, or is this your first experience with the Kumar Effect? Strange that you should mention a theremin, most of us would probably compare the Kumar Effect to the sound of a housemaid falling downstairs with a tray of dishes, but YMMV...

[Kumar]

Welcome to the Wonderful World of Kumar. Can I assume you've been lurking, or is this your first experience with the Kumar Effect? Strange that you should mention a theremin, most of us would probably compare the Kumar Effect to the sound of a housemaid falling downstairs with a tray of dishes, but YMMV...

Yes, but think dynamically; who is housemaid & what are the dishes. I feel, it is bit clear but you may see or deviate + --> x.:D Slightly deviated.

[Kell]

Welcome to the Wonderful World of Kumar.

Thank you. I think :S

Can I assume you've been lurking, or is this your first experience with the Kumar Effect?

I usually lurk, just to avoid getting in the way. I have read a few of Kumar's posts, but now I tend to scroll past them quickly with one eye closed like I do if I accidentally find a picture of a creepy crawly on a web page. The numerous forward slashes and semi-random punctuation make my eyes cross if I look at them too long...

Strange that you should mention a theremin, most of us would probably compare the Kumar Effect to the sound of a housemaid falling downstairs with a tray of dishes, but YMMV...

By theremin I meant: "woooooowoowoowoooooooooooooo"

;)

[Kumar]

..Therefore, all forces can be defined by their effect; that is, by the change of movement they induce on point-like systems.

Properties of force
Because momentum is a vector, then force, being its time derivative, is also a vector - it has magnitude and direction.

Forces can be added together using the parallelogram of force. When two forces act on an object, the resulting force, the resultant, is the vector sum of the original forces. This is called the principle of superposition. The magnitude of the resultant varies from zero to the sum of the magnitudes of the two forces, depending on the angle between their lines of action. If the two forces are equal, but opposite, the resultant is zero. This condition is called static equilibrium, with the result that the object remains at rest or moves with a constant velocity.

As well as being added, forces can be can also be broken down (or 'resolved'). For example, a horizontal force pointing northeast can be split into two forces, one pointing north, and one pointing east. Summing these component forces using vector addition yields the original force. Force vectors can also be three-dimensional, with the third (vertical) component at right-angles to the two horizontal components.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force

Whether above quote & link tell about force is indescribable by its physicals but describable by its effect.

Whether above quote describe about aggragation or concentration or superposition of force?

[Darat]

\\\\\\yes.

[Donks]

Whether above quote & link tell about force is indescribable by its physicals but describable by its effect.
Would you please highlight the part in your quote that says that a force is "indescribable by its physicals"? It would also be helpful if you would provide the definition you (or your quote, though I don't see it) are using for a "physicals."
Whether above quote describe about aggragation or concentration or superposition of force?
The above quote seems to describe addition and decomposition of forces.

[Goshawk]

"woooooowoowoowoooooooooooooo"

:: snerk ::

[Badly Shaved Monkey]

I have no relavance of this theory to our dicussions. Therefore not agree & furthur tried with you. You mentioned point . & two .. so I just remarked, prime force(.) and its aggragation(..).:D

I think Kumar only posted this because he is jealous and wanted to show that he could still do it. Sorry, Kumar, that fruitcake does your schtick better than you do. There is a new king in town.

[Kumar]

Would you please highlight the part in your quote that says that a force is "indescribable by its physicals"? It would also be helpful if you would provide the definition you (or your quote, though I don't see it) are using for a "physicals."

"Therefore, all forces can be defined by their effect; that is, by the change of movement they induce on point-like systems. "

The above quote seems to describe addition and decomposition of forces.

Are these the other words of aggragation or concentration and reformation of force/s? Can force be converted into wave and mass? If yes, how?

[Kumar]

I think Kumar only posted this because he is jealous and wanted to show that he could still do it. Sorry, Kumar, that fruitcake does your schtick better than you do. There is a new king in town.

??

[Kumar]

\\\\\\yes.

If it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart? - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Yes. good and valid words.

[Donks]

"Therefore, all forces can be defined by their effect; that is, by the change of movement they induce on point-like systems. "
That is not what I asked. I'll ask again, where does it say that a force is "indescribable by its physicals"? What are the "physicals" of a force?[/QUOTE]
Are these the other words of aggragation or concentration and reformation of force/s? Can force be converted into wave and mass? If yes, how?
Do you know what a vector is, because what you quoted was simply a description of vector addition.

[Kumar]

That is not what I asked. I'll ask again, where does it say that a force is "indescribable by its physicals"? What are the "physicals" of a force?

EG; suppose I ask, I have heard voice of a person but not seen him physically, what does it mean.

Do you know what a vector is, because what you quoted was simply a description of vector addition.

I mean force in describable in its effects not in person(physical) so indescribable in person (physical).

ETC

[Donks]

EG; suppose I ask, I have heard voice of a person but not seen him physically, what does it mean.

I mean force in describable in its effects not in person(physical) so indescribable in person (physical).
If this is what you were driving at, you could have answered your own question by reading your own link.

[delphi_ote]

Try your dynamic intellectual.

I did a Google image search, because I don't know what the crap a dynamic intellectual is. In case you were curious...

http://www.sit.edu/studyabroad/europe/img/map_france1.gif
http://csumb.edu/site/Images/futurelibrary/Library-Sphere-Tag.jpg
http://www.km-int.net/img/kirja.jpg

that's what a dynamic intellectual looks like.

[Kumar]

If this is what you were driving at, you could have answered your own question by reading your own link.

Our brain's capacity may be limited whereas current theories or knowledges may be unlimited. Therefore, refreshing, updating, disucussing, dynamism, indicating...may add to better or relevant discussions.

[Donks]

Our brain's capacity may be limited whereas current theories or knowledges may be unlimited. Therefore, refreshing, updating, disucussing, dynamism, indicating...may add to better or relevant discussions.
You lost woo of the week to the new Kumar. I think you'll just have to get over it and try harder next week.

[Deetee]

Therefore, refreshing, updating, disucussing, dynamism, indicating...may add to better or relevant discussions.

Kumar, you seem to have followed advice and dropped the "/" from your kumarese. I wish I could say this has improved the comprehensibility of your posts, but it hasn't. All you have done is substitute with a comma.

Now try writing sentences that contain no more than a single comma. Go, on we know you can do it!

[Kumar]

Kumar, you seem to have followed advice and dropped the "/" from your kumarese. I wish I could say this has improved the comprehensibility of your posts, but it hasn't. All you have done is substitute with a comma.

Now try writing sentences that contain no more than a single comma. Go, on we know you can do it!

That may be a problem as I may mention many words relevant at one place for multiple possible meanings of a sentence and for you to choose right or best one. Anyway I shall try as just now I found something alterative to coma.Thanks :D

[Deetee]

Anyway I shall try as just now I found something alterative to coma.Thanks :D

Kumar- when you are posting on the boards, coma is one of the the things I desire above all else.
;)

[Badly Shaved Monkey]

That may be a problem as I may mention many words relevant at one place for multiple possible meanings of a sentence and for you to choose right or best one. Anyway I shall try as just now I found something alterative to coma.Thanks :D

Flibber/gibber/pick/deny/select/ignore/shun/choose/best/worse/yes/no/maybe

Is it thinking dynamically?

[Complexity]

That may be a problem as I may mention many words relevant at one place for multiple possible meanings of a sentence and for you to choose right or best one. Anyway I shall try as just now I found something alterative to coma.Thanks :D

Bad Kumar. Quit playing stupid.

Each of your sentences should have one meaning. Write for clarity. Violate this only when you have mastered it, and then only when approriate.

In all of your writing, find the single English word that best describes your concept and use it. Do not use chains of words that you appear to believe will serve the same purpose. Do not replace slashes with commas, or commas with something else, in attempts to trick us.

Wouldn't you like to be more than a pathetic joke to the people on this forum?

If you want to share your ideas, you're going to have to do the work needed to communicate them clearly and coherently. You're also going to have to try to write in a manner that invites reading and consideration.

As it is, your messages aren't worth the effort of reading, let along thinking about.

Grow up or go away.

[Kumar]

There may be no limit of idiocies under......

[delphi_ote]

There may be no limit of idiocies under......

... posts starting with Kumar's name.

[AnotherSillyAlias]

There may be no limit of idiocies under......

... the bridge?
... the water?
... the guise of a forum message from you?
... neath the silvery moon?


... but soft, what light from yonder window breaks?
tis the east, and Juliette is the sun.


Yes, I realise the last line doesn't really belong there but it makes no more or less sense than some of your contributions and I do so like a little of Willy's iambic pentameter, don't you?

[Complexity]

Interesting...

Kumar just responded to another of my posts with:

There may not be a limit of idocies in PMA......

I think our little kook is getting a bit miffed.

I never thought I'd see Shakespeare and Kumar referred to in the same message.

PMA? Any guesses?

[Donks]

Interesting...

Kumar just responded to another of my posts with:

There may not be a limit of idocies in PMA......

I think our little kook is getting a bit miffed.
It is my hope every time I post that he will finaly piss off.
I never thought I'd see Shakespeare and Kumar referred to in the same message.

PMA? Any guesses?
Prevailing Modern Atmosphere. It means "WAAAAAH YOU KEEP ASKING ME FOR EVIDENCE WHEN I HAVE NONE! NOT FAIR! LET MY SUPERSTITIONS ALONE!"

[Kumar]

... posts starting with Kumar's name.

Yes, thinking about helping by natural/ non adverse means, even when no other choice may be there, is a big idoicy on my part. Thinking about preserving current imbalances/excess & opposing PMA, can be a sin and so a big idiocy on my part. Finding, PMA adding to cancer, modern type of diseases etc. so our Karma's effect, is a idiocy on my part....

But It is in society'sPMA angle not in nature's/god's angle. Punishment/nailing for real good here but reward can be there.

Just continue, maintain & add to PMAs or current excesses or nature's imbalances. You are intellegent, I am an big idiot.:D :D :D

[Complexity]

You are intellegent, I am an big idiot.:D :D :D

I think Kumar has finally got it.

I know he thinks he's being sarcastic and clever and all that, but, as usual, he's wrong. He accidentally said something honest and true.

[burrahobbit]

You people just don't understand.

A is the opposite of B
If A then Not B

However, both A and B are good

Therefore both A and B are true

Logic is irrelevant. Evidence is bunk

That which you wish to be true is true

And all possible meanings of all possible sentences are true.

[Donks]

And all possible meanings of all possible sentences are true.
Only if you think dinamically, use random bold and lots of :D smilies :) :) :) for :D no :) reason :D :) :D :) whatsoever.

[Mojo]

PMA? Any guesses?I see that Donks has already supplied a meaning, but it's worth noting that the use of made-up (and usually undefined) abbreviations is another of the obfuscatory techniques that Kumar frequently employs.

[Mojo]

But It is in society'sPMA angle not in nature's/god's angle. Punishment/nailing for real good here but reward can be there.I've noticed he's been using the words "nailing" or "nailed" quite a lot recently. His use of the term here (http://206.225.95.123/forumlive/showthread.php?postid=1013857#post1013857) (when trying to figure out what Kumar means, you often need to go quite a long way back to find him using the term a little less elliptically) makes me think it's a reference to crucifixion. Is he developing messianic delusions, perhaps?

[Donks]

I've noticed he's been using the words "nailing" or "nailed" quite a lot recently. His use of the term here (http://206.225.95.123/forumlive/showthread.php?postid=1013857#post1013857) (when trying to figure out what Kumar means, you often need to go quite a long way back to find him using the term a little less elliptically) makes me think it's a reference to crucifixion. Is he developing messianic delusions, perhaps?
One can only hope. The plot has gotten stale, we need a nice twist to boost the ratings.

[Badly Shaved Monkey]

It is my hope every time I post that he will finaly piss off.

Prevailing Modern Atmosphere. It means "WAAAAAH YOU KEEP ASKING ME FOR EVIDENCE WHEN I HAVE NONE! NOT FAIR! LET MY SUPERSTITIONS ALONE!"

I am guilty of engaging with Kumar in the past. Originally I thought I was dealing with someone who genuinely wanted to learn, but I have come to see that, whether he can't or won't, he is certainly not going to listen and learn.

I have also found some entertainment in reacting to his posts, but I have passed that stage now and just find them a nuisance. I can't be bothered to dissect them any more to get to an underlying message. Also his tendency to clog up every thread with his drivel is irritating- either by design or accident. His recent discovery of badscience.net is also to be regretted especially because the format of the threads there do not allow you to ignore lengthy and stupid posts as well as the JREF vBulletin style.

I used to think it would be a shame if he went away, now I wish he would.

The one remaining plus point is that threads in which he takes part do seem to generate traffic, which serves to keep discussion going on around him when the forum might otherwise get too quiet to keep up a critical mass of active participants. This post is itself and example of that effect. I expect Kumar is really Randi just trying to keep up his page-impression count so his masters in the BigPharmaPseudoSceptic World Conspiracy remain happy and don't beam him back up to their mother-ship.

[Badly Shaved Monkey]

One can only hope. The plot has gotten stale, we need a nice twist to boost the ratings.

As I was just saying, I think Kumar has long since jumped the shark. (http://www.jumptheshark.com/)

[delphi_ote]

Yes, thinking about helping by natural/ non adverse means, even when no other choice may be there, is a big idoicy on my part. Thinking about preserving current imbalances/excess & opposing PMA, can be a sin and so a big idiocy on my part. Finding, PMA adding to cancer, modern type of diseases etc. so our Karma's effect, is a idiocy on my part....

But It is in society'sPMA angle not in nature's/god's angle. Punishment/nailing for real good here but reward can be there.

Just continue, maintain & add to PMAs or current excesses or nature's imbalances. You are intellegent, I am an big idiot.:D :D :D

Poor guy. He started an insult, and I pointed it back at him. Now he seems to be upset at the nasty tone in here.

[Kumar]

Poor guys. May become guilty of restraing one to help someone, who needed badly. Desire to harm/kill/oppose nature, stub-bornness, non-flrxibilities, self interests, egoistic superiority...may result poor, cheap thoughts, idiocies, game playing in hospitals, radiculing healers....etc. so may add sin. Joining hand with such emotions may result into deviations and sin.

[Mojo]

Poor guys. May become guilty of restraing one to help someone, who needed badly. Kumar, people have been trying to help you on this forum, by trying to explain basic science to you, since the day you arrived here. The trouble is, that doesn't seem to be the sort of help you want, as you have persistently ignored all the information and advice that has been offered. You just seem to want people to agree with your crackpot ideas.

Don't expect people here to tell you that you're right when you're wrong.

[Badly Shaved Monkey]

Poor guys. May become guilty of restraing one to help someone, who needed badly. Desire to harm/kill/oppose nature, stub-bornness, non-flrxibilities, self interests, egoistic superiority...may result poor, cheap thoughts, idiocies, game playing in hospitals, radiculing healers....etc. so may add sin. Joining hand with such emotions may result into deviations and sin.

How do you think you might obtain a more friendly and helpful response?

[Darat]

Everyone please remember your Membership Agreement. Attacking the argument is fine attacking the member is not.

[Badly Shaved Monkey]

Everyone please remember your Membership Agreement. Attacking the argument is fine attacking the member is not.

Fair enough.

Kumar, do you have something useful to say and are you prepared to learn from the answers you have been given?

[Complexity]

Thanks for the reminder, Darat. I'll tread more courteously.

My apologies to the forum for having let Kumar get to me. I have avoided participating in a forum until last week because I knew that doing so was likely to irritate me. I'm in someone else's home and I need to rise to the level of conduct that they require.

Kumar, you are a human being and deserve to be treated like one. Since I have lost all patience with you and do not anticipate gaining anything from continued discussion, my best course is not to engage you in discussion or to refer to you. Have a good life.

To the rest of the forum - it is good to be alive, to be a skeptic, and to have a sense of humor in challenging times.

[Badly Shaved Monkey]

Thanks for the reminder, Darat. I'll tread more courteously.

My apologies to the forum for having let Kumar get to me. I have avoided participating in a forum until last week because I knew that doing so was likely to irritate me. I'm in someone else's home and I need to rise to the level of conduct that they require.

Kumar, you are a human being and deserve to be treated like one. Since I have lost all patience with you and do not anticipate gaining anything from continued discussion, my best course is not to engage you in discussion or to refer to you. Have a good life.

Rolfe says the Ignore button is your friend, but I think it makes Kumired threads even worse because they become disjointed.

Heck, I've offered "Kumar" a chance at redemption, let's see if he takes it. I'm not offering very good odds though.

So, it's still over to you Kumar to say something sensible.

[thaiboxerken]

I think he's rather entertaining. Then again, I like seeing children cry too.

[delphi_ote]

So, it's still over to you Kumar to say something sensible.

*inhales deeply, then covers his mouth with one hand and pinches his nose closed with the other*

[AnotherSillyAlias]

Poor guys. May become guilty of restraing one to help someone, who needed badly. Desire to harm/kill/oppose nature, stub-bornness, non-flrxibilities, self interests, egoistic superiority...may result poor, cheap thoughts, idiocies, game playing in hospitals, radiculing healers....etc. so may add sin. Joining hand with such emotions may result into deviations and sin.

We have been asked to attack the argument, not the person. Fair enough and certainly a good idea but ....

Just exactly WHAT is the argument here? Very difficult to attack it, or even agree with it, if it is incomprehensible.

Kumar, the stuff above really does look like you opened a dictionary, selected a whole bunch of words at random and posted them here.

Perhaps you could begin by posting just ONE sentence. Concentrate on making it relevant and comprehensible. We can go from there.

[Badly Shaved Monkey]

*inhales deeply, then covers his mouth with one hand and pinches his nose closed with the other*

You're going blue, man!

[delphi_ote]

*face turning blue. feeling light headed. not so sure holding his breath was a good idea*

[Badly Shaved Monkey]

*face turning blue. feeling light headed. not so sure holding his breath was a good idea*

Hans - Kumar requested his account to be deactivated so don't expect a reply anytime soon.

I think it may just be a ruse to make you fall unconscious and pick your pockets while you're comatose.

[William Parcher]

Kumar? Bah humbug!

I nominate LAL (and now also Huntster) as the "Woo of the Week" for her steadfast defense of Bigfoot as being a real creature right here in our American forests. If you haven't seen the Bigfoot threads running since early summer 2005, take a look at the various threads in the General Skepticism and Paranormal forum. Don't miss the Patterson-Gimlin Film threads.

This is wooism at its best (or worst).

[delphi_ote]

I think it may just be a ruse to make you fall unconscious and pick your pockets while you're comatose.

You know, I was wondering why I've been so poor the past couple months. At first I thought it was because I'm a poor grad student who shelled out all his money for TAM4.

Now I know the truth. Apparently I'd blacked out a month ago and totally forgotten about it. Darat!

[MRC_Hans]

Deleted.

Hans

[Diamond]

"Physics and maths are my weakest subjects at school and college but I have a great interest in sympathetic vibratory physics."

I tried taking an interest in sympathetic vibratory physics at school but I kept getting slapped.

[Hawk one]

This week's woo is surely Julio Iglesias (or whatever the last name was) and his pal Vitor should've-been-Zammit-but-it's-not. They're taking lying in the name of woo up to a new level of lowly slime. :D

[Mojo]

This week's woo is surely Julio Iglesias (or whatever the last name was) and his pal Vitor should've-been-Zammit-but-it's-not. They're taking lying in the name of woo up to a new level of lowly slime. :DJulio, having run into a bit of flak, seems to have been replaced by Vitor, who is now quoting Julio as if he's some kind of authority. All very reminiscent of the MAS collective.

[Badly Shaved Monkey]

This week's woo is surely Julio Iglesias (or whatever the last name was) and his pal Vitor should've-been-Zammit-but-it's-not. They're taking lying in the name of woo up to a new level of lowly slime. :D

Who? What? Where? Huh?

[Hawk one]

Damn, I was hoping I'd get away with being lazy.

Anyway, start reading at about post 500 or something in this thread (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=45357). It should give you a hint of what's going on.

[Mojo]

Julio, having run into a bit of flak, seems to have been replaced by Vitor, who is now quoting Julio as if he's some kind of authority. All very reminiscent of the MAS collective.Now Vitor's run away and Julio's back. Not seen both of them at the same time though.

[geni]

straydog over at thesupernaturalworld. Currently trying to argue with maths and the laws of physics. I don't know if there is a conspirocy he doesn't belive in. You will prbably need to register to see the thread but it is quite amuseing:

http://www.thesupernaturalworld.co.uk/forum/index.php?showtopic=8657&st=15