Into the ground, Fundie.

[HeyLeroy]

Adrian Pierce Rogers (http://www.adrianrogers.org/)

Please, nobody get the impression that I'm glad a man is dead.

However, there is one less purveyor of this line of fractured, diseased thinking. It would have been nice if he'd had a change of heartwhile he was alive, instead of hating on anyone who didn't think like he did.

From the Daily Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=&xml=/news/2005/11/19/db1903.xml)

Not much to like in this guy.

Oh well, He's finally in the same place we're all heading. In the ground.

[Dr Adequate]

Adrian Rogers, who died on Tuesday aged 74, served three terms as president of the American Southern Baptist Convention ... Rogers's belief in the literal truth of the Bible sometimes proved awkward: when asked on one occasion about biblical justifications for slavery, he observed that slavery was "a much maligned institution", and added that if it had not been abolished "we would not have such a welfare problem". You couldn't make it up.

[clarsct]

Hell, I AM glad he's dead and not ashamed to admit it.

The world has become a better place...now if only there weren't fifty ********* who are just as backwards and silly to take his place.

[HeyLeroy]

You couldn't make it up.
Think they'll bury him in his klan robe?

[Zep]

Hold me up, Mary, I'm too tired from laughing!Adrian Pierce Rogers was born on September 12 1931 at West Palm Beach, Florida, and received his call to the ministry when lying face-down in the mud on a school football field.

[HeyLeroy]

Yeah, I almost did a spit-take at that.

[Kopji]

From the 'reflections' pages:

...All Southern Baptists owe Dr. Rogers a debt of gratitude for his leadership in bringing us back to our roots and away from radical liberal agendas rather than God's work and Word. Thank you for sharing him with us.
R.F.
Mesa, AZ


meow
:gary:

[HeyLeroy]

Thanks for cashing him in, I'd say.

[c4ts]

Some people thought he was a great preacher because they saw him on television. When did he say the racist crap?

[HeyLeroy]

I went looking for an answer to that and found a source (http://www.founders.org/FJ30/article3.html) that claims that was taken out of context:

Gourley's use of his sources is also problematic. Granted that he makes use almost exclusively of sources whose authors have a vested interest to critique the conservative resurgence. But does he use those sources accurately? In many cases he does not. In Chapter Four he critiques the conservative movement for its racism. "It is a tragedy, however, that the white God which Southern Baptists of the 1800s worshipped is still alive in the minds of many Southern Baptists, particularly in fundamentalist circles" (p. 75). As a prime example he presents this: ". . . Adrian Rogers, fundamentalist pastor and past SBC president, recently revealed his racist beliefs when asked about slavery: `Well, I believe slavery is a much-maligned institution. If we had slavery today, we would not have this welfare mess'" (p. 75). Gourley seeks with this quote to prove that Rogers is a racist in his attitude toward African-Americans. The footnote for this comment cites an essay by Cecil Sherman, former head of the CBF. But when one looks at the essay by Sherman, an entirely different perspective is apparent. Sherman asked Rogers the question about slavery in the context of their work together on the Peace Committee. But the question he asked was about slavery in the Bible, not the American institution of racial subservience. This is very plain in Sherman's essay ("Moderate Responses to the Fundamentalist Movement," in Walter Shurden, ed., The Struggle for the Soul of the SBC, p. 36). Sherman did not take Rogers' comment to refer to the American institution of Southern injustice, and there is no reason why Gourley should have taken the text in this manner, either. One may disagree with Rogers' statement in any event, but to twist his words willfully in order to score a rhetorical point is unconscionable reporting.

That's just a short answer. I'm at work and can't do a lotta digging right now.

[clarsct]

So...he was for slavery in general, but not necessarily slavery for just blacks?

Or am I reading that wrong?

Or should we just enslave the poor?

[Harlequin]

Obviously, he was for slavery of everyone different from himself...
Isn't that how it usually goes?

[Rufo]

Well, I guess it's kind of pointless to start bashing him now that he's dead... and not very nice to his living relatives. But he was obviously quite out of his mind, and of course the living supporters of his belief should be continously bashed. :D
"We have dads today that are interested in sports, business and sex,"
...and when, exactly, have we not had that?
Adrian Pierce Rogers was born on September 12 1931 at West Palm Beach, Florida, and received his call to the ministry when lying face-down in the mud on a school football field.
Now, not wanting to sound too critical... but shouldn't God be other way?

[Mojo]

Now, not wanting to sound too critical... but shouldn't God be other way?Depends on what God was doing to him.

[clarsct]

:eek: :eye-poppi

Talk about 'seeing the light'! I believe that would make a believer out of me..at the very least!

[Rufo]

Depends on what God was doing to him.
Without implying anything on the matter, it seems reasonable to at least look around and check it was really God.

Talk about 'seeing the light'! I believe that would make a believer out of me..at the very least!
Oh, I'm sure you could find a perfectly natural explanation... by, for example, following the advice given above. ;)

[Ducky]

Can I nominate for language award based on the title to this thread alone?

PS. HeyLeroy, you owe me a keyboard for that one.

Nice job ;)



(Seriously, that's the best title ever.)

[HeyLeroy]

Spank-you very much, fowlsound!

[Beerina]

Adrian Pierce Rogers was born on September 12 1931 at West Palm Beach, Florida, and received his call to the ministry when lying face-down in the mud on a school football field.
Hold me up, Mary, I'm too tired from laughing!

Kind of like George Forman, eh, who found God after getting beat by Ali.