2005 is warmest year ever recorded

[jay gw]

Edited for breach of Rule 4.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4532344.stm

[TragicMonkey]

They haven't been recording very long, then.

In Caesar's time, there were vinyards in England. The place used to be warmer.

[tracer]

The researchers, from the UK Met Office and the University of East Anglia, say this is more evidence for the reality of human-induced global warming.
More evidence for the reality of global warming? Yes.

More evidence for the reality of human-induced global warming? That's a bit of a stretch.

[Manny]

Then will someone please explain to me why it's so. fvcking. cold.

[bob_kark]

Then will someone please explain to me why it's so. fvcking. cold.

Too much Global Warming in the summer. We spent it all. BTW, shouldn't the title read, "2005 is the 2nd warmest year ever recorded?"

[Jorghnassen]

Then will someone please explain to me why it's so. fvcking. cold.


That would be because climate change implies not simply different mean temperature but can also mean different variance. So the temperature distribution not only changes in location but in scale, and with heavier tails to the distribution this means higher probability of substancially higher/lower than average temperature. Hence a more variable climate.

[Brian the Snail]

Then will someone please explain to me why it's so. fvcking. cold.

Because it's winter.

[TobiasTheViking]

Reminds me of some other headlines i have seen often, sadly i can't remember them verbatim, but i can show the concept.


headline : "<concept> WORST EVER"
body : "<concept> worst ever this year, though it was actually much worse last year, and even worse 10 years ago".

[epepke]

They haven't been recording very long, then.

In Caesar's time, there were vinyards in England. The place used to be warmer.

Well, yes. Plus the Medieval Warm Period. Also the description of Vinland from the Vikings, but in that case, it's possible that they mistook some cold-temperature berries for grapes. Or that they were just lying. After all, they were the folks that named Greenland.

[TobiasTheViking]

Well, yes. Plus the Medieval Warm Period. Also the description of Vinland from the Vikings, but in that case, it's possible that they mistook some cold-temperature berries for grapes. Or that they were just lying. After all, they were the folks that named Greenland.
Seems like the correct name to give a new piece of land you find, and the first piece of it you see is green with grass and bushes and trees.. hmm.. I wonder how they came up with that name.


Maybe because it was a piece of green... land....

[epepke]

Seems like the correct name to give a new piece of land you find, and the first piece of it you see is green with grass and bushes and trees.. hmm.. I wonder how they came up with that name.

Iceland, on the other hand, has a Southern area of green arable land bigger than England. Go figure!

ETA: My father worked on Greenland, and from his memory, there is very little green about it.

[TobiasTheViking]

Iceland, on the other hand, has a Southern area of green arable land bigger than England. Go figure!

ETA: My father worked on Greenland, and from his memory, there is very little green about it.
Ehm.......

So, your father owkred on Greenland back when the vikings found or named it? because if he didn't, his opinion on the green, or lack of same, on Greenland isn't relevant.

[epepke]

Ehm.......

So, your father owkred on Greenland back when the vikings found or named it? because if he didn't, his opinion on the green, or lack of same, on Greenland isn't relevant.

Well, maybe. But Iceland was, if anything, greener back then, and it was still named Iceland.

[TobiasTheViking]

Well, maybe. But Iceland was, if anything, greener back then, and it was still named Iceland.
Ehm, so because Iceland was named "Iceland" that means the name "Greenland" for Greenland is wrong?

Sorry, that argument doesn't parse.

[Beerina]

I assume vinyards are impossible in England now because of their climate.

Which puzzles me since we grow grapes in Michigan, which is arguably worse than England. Maybe they're not the right grapes as considered by the modern French, but they'd work. How do they know they weren't growing this type in England back then?

In any event, assuming they don't grow in England at all, and used to because of a significantly warmer climate, well, I've always had this tickle in the back of my mind that maybe the global warming guys were right, but this would shoot that all to hell.

What are the responses to this?

[Grammatron]

I assume vinyards are impossible in England now because of their climate.

Which puzzles me since we grow grapes in Michigan, which is arguably worse than England. Maybe they're not the right grapes as considered by the modern French, but they'd work. How do they know they weren't growing this type in England back then?

In any event, assuming they don't grow in England at all, and used to because of a significantly warmer climate, well, I've always had this tickle in the back of my mind that maybe the global warming guys were right, but this would shoot that all to hell.

What are the responses to this?

Just because you can grow grapes does not mean you can have a vinyard.

[Melendwyr]

Just because you can grow grapes does not mean you can have a vinyard. True. You have to be able to grow fields of grapes in long rows, suspended on horizontal trellises.

I suspect England had enough room to fit one or two in. Now, of course, it's all Britpop rock bands and hedgehogs.

[Brian the Snail]

I assume vinyards are impossible in England now because of their climate.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=english+vineyards&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&start=0&sa=N

[epepke]

Ehm, so because Iceland was named "Iceland" that means the name "Greenland" for Greenland is wrong?

Sorry, that argument doesn't parse.

Look, I just fine it kind of amusing that the warmer place got named after "ice," and the colder place got named after "green," by approximately the same people. OK?

Perhaps you should go write a terribly serious dissertation about how the Three Stooges relate to Marxist theory.

[TobiasTheViking]

Look, I just fine it kind of amusing that the warmer place got named after "ice," and the colder place got named after "green," by approximately the same people. OK?

Perhaps you should go write a terribly serious dissertation about how the Three Stooges relate to Marxist theory.
In that case i appologize for not getting your joke. I thought you were serious. Sorry.

As a joke (or just an amusing thought) it is fine :)

[WildCat]

I assume vinyards are impossible in England now because of their climate.

Which puzzles me since we grow grapes in Michigan, which is arguably worse than England. Maybe they're not the right grapes as considered by the modern French, but they'd work. How do they know they weren't growing this type in England back then?

In any event, assuming they don't grow in England at all, and used to because of a significantly warmer climate, well, I've always had this tickle in the back of my mind that maybe the global warming guys were right, but this would shoot that all to hell.

What are the responses to this?
In the land of cheese and brats, they're making ice wine. (http://www.wiscnews.com/spe/news/index.php?ntid=65136&ntpid=3)

[Grammatron]

In the land of cheese and brats, they're making ice wine. (http://www.wiscnews.com/spe/news/index.php?ntid=65136&ntpid=3)

Eh...it's allright. A bit too sweet for my taste.

[Bjorn]

Iceland, on the other hand, has a Southern area of green arable land bigger than England. Go figure!As far as I know, the whole of Iceland is smaller than England. Go figure?

[WildCat]

As far as I know, the whole of Iceland is smaller than England. Go figure?
If you were a Mason, you'd know about the secret half of Iceland.

[Jorghnassen]

Eh...it's allright. A bit too sweet for my taste.

You might want to try ice cider then. Same principle, but with apples. The sweetness is much easier to cope with somehow.

/I'll be having some to accompany some foie gras over the Christmas break...

[tracer]

Perhaps you should go write a terribly serious dissertation about how the Three Stooges relate to Marxist theory.
Moe clearly represented the Bourgeoise.

[epepke]

As far as I know, the whole of Iceland is smaller than England. Go figure?

Whoa, you're right. My mistake.