Should men be permitted to go bottomless?

[1984]

Ladyhawk asked should women be able to go shirtless? Luciana Nery started a thread about taboo topics in the Movies forum. It was noted that not many films were willing to show full frontal male nudity and not be coy about it. So should men be permitted to go bottomless?

[ImaginalDisc]

I wouldn't, even if it were allowed. Firstly, the undersides of most desks have unpleasant things on them I'm not about to get on my bits, and secondly, running bottomless is...unpleasant.

[epepke]

Life of Brian, anyone? I think there was something in Sideways, too.

Anyway, I think the lack of portrayals of the male unit have more to do with the fact that the dangly bits aren't really all that aesthetic and look a bit silly on film. Plus I don't think that too many actors really want to put themselves to the size test.

[Freakshow]

We're NOT allowed to? No wonder I keep getting arrested...

[rjh01]

I think we should all be allowed to run around nude. I can see only two practical problems with that
1. Sunburn, skin cancer
2. You might get cold.
3. People might get to know the size of things that are normally covered up and compare with themselves.

[Blue Mountain]

I think we should all be allowed to run around nude. I can see only two practical problems with that
1. Sunburn, skin cancer
2. You might get cold.
3. People might get to know the size of things that are normally covered up and compare with themselves.
People who like to nude in social settings are referred to as nudists or naturists (the preferred term depends on which group you are with ...)

1. Sunburn and skin cancer can be reduced or eliminated by staying in the shade or wearing sunscreen. After all, especially with males removing the swimsuit exposes only a little more skin.

2. Getting cold is certainly an issue.

3. Seeing what size the average breast or penis really is would likely reduce the amount of unncessary surgery performed in North America annually, and might also reduce the amount of spam I get in my inbox :)

[Loon]

No.

[Zep]

It won't HELP seal that all-important business deal...

[1984]

...and might also reduce the amount of spam I get in my inbox :)

Hee hee.

Then there's chaffing, but one would get used to it I'd presume. And remember on Seinfeld - shrinkage, it was shrinkage.

[EagleEye]

Oh the immortal words of George...

"I WAS IN THE POOL!!!!!"

[Moochie]

Bottomless? Be some odd looking males about. Males without penises and ******** simply won't make it in this world.

Should females be permitted to go titless? Vaginaless?

What's that stuff about "if thine eye offend thee"?

M.

[Moochie]

The asterisks cloaked the vernacular for "behinds."

M.

[epepke]

The asterisks cloaked the vernacular for "behinds."

M.

You mean "buttocks"?

Let's plumb the depths of this filter.

Buttocks.
Vibraphone.
Meat flute.
Naughty bits.
Cockerel.
Cock.
Dick.
Weenus.
Unit.
Titties.
Manflesh.
Member.
Butts.
Phallus.
Quim.
Twat.
Galumbits.
Frog.

[Beerina]

Ladyhawk asked should women be able to go shirtless? Luciana Nery started a thread about taboo topics in the Movies forum. It was noted that not many films were willing to show full frontal male nudity and not be coy about it.

It's a stupidity of the US, my own beloved country. I was in the Netherlands 15 years ago on contract for awhile; they had full frontal nudity of women and men on broadcast, government-owned television on Sunday afternoon. Maybe it doesn't destroy society after all. :jaw-dropp

[El Greco]

Should men permitted to go bottomless... where ?

[Loon]

"Quim?"

[epepke]

"Quim?"

Yes.

As in "Gonzo, the lead guitar player, placed his burning phallus in her quivering quim."

I think there's one person on this forum, maybe two, who know where that's from.

[clarsct]

Why the hell not?

I mean, other than getting my various bits caught in things and the like. I'm a tall guy and the idea of doorknobs being MORE painful doesn't appeal, particularly.

And there is the 'gallant reflex' to consider....the damned thing has a mind of its own....


And we'd have to re-write the sexual harassment laws, of course. But that could just as easily be a benefit.

In social situations, though I don't see nudity as a problem, per se.

[ysabella]

I think the crime of "flashing" is a real curiosity. How does it truly harm me if some clueless bozo feels the need to show his weiner? Should I gasp? Should I cry?

It's kind of a tough one to call, because I was cornered/threatened by a flasher once, when I was 19 and running a shop alone. And after that happened, I read that certain guys start doing the flashing thing and then escalate, sometimes all the way up to rape (I think this guy was working on escalating, as he physically attacked another gal the same morning).

And while some guy flashing people on a city street is one thing, a guy going to a school and flashing children is another thing. So I guess we're always going to have this kind of law.

Unless all you guys start going pantsless or something. And outlaw trenchcoats, I suppose.

[clarsct]

ysabella:
Exactly. If going pantless wasn't a social taboo, no one would care. Including the kids at the elementary school. Sure, you'd get giggles and so and such at first, but after a few hours, the children would get bored and run off to do something else.

After a week, they'd care less.

The main 'trauma' caused in such cases is the reaction or overreaction of the parent. They've seen something BAD...they've done BAD...etc.

And if someone was getting turned on by watching little girls and boys, why we'd know a lot sooner, yes?

[Zep]

Oh, I'm not bottomless - listen!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:sour: :sour: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

[plindboe]

This is odd for me as I'm usually quite rational concerning just about any topic, but I notice some of my views appear to clash concerning male nudity. So, here are my views:

(1) Should men be allowed to go nude on the beach? - Yes
(2) ...with an erection? - Uh, no...
(3) ...but sometimes it's not intentional. - Good point.....
(4) So should men be allowed to flash others? - No, that's gross
(5) But what if they're doing it at the beach? - Ehm, I don't know

My disdain of perverts is what causes the troublesome clashes. But I recognize this disdain is emotional, so I'm leaning towards total dangling freedom concerning the above points.

[ysabella]

clarsct and plindboe, I guess part of the issue is intent? I guess in a world where everyone was nude, it'd be more difficult to shock someone by shaking your weenie at them.

[TriangleMan]

Coincidentally I was watching an episode of Going Tribal last night where they were with a tribe in Southwest Ethiopia who generally didn't wear a lot of clothes - a lot of the time they were wandering around nude. It was kind of odd at first, especially when they would have these fighting competitions, but after a while I got used to it and by the end of the show I wasn't really noticing the nudity. The tribe didn't care about the nudity at all of course.

I've been to nude beaches a few times and you get used to the nudity after a while. I presume the same thing would happen if society allowed men & women to wander around nude.

[moopet]

Something I've noticed here and other places:

People equate showing off women's breasts to showing off men's genitals. It should be equal, a breast for a breast, a genital for a genital. Unfortunately, this is scuppered by one sex being an "innie" and one an "outie".
Why is it that women can wear almost totally "revealing" clothes but are only considered to be showing off their breasts if the nipple is visible? This implies that men and women being topless should equate, since nipples only vary really in size.

Also, regarding the state of arousal - if it's ok to see a flaccid penis but not an erect one (a view stated a couple of times) then is it ok to see a nipple that's not erect...? You get my drift.

Social taboos are completely weird.

[kmortis]

Social taboos are completely weird.

This wins the "Understatment of the Year Award"

[Moochie]

Something that hasn't been covered here is people, males in particular, who wear diapers.

Wearing diapers 24/7 necessitates at least some "bottomless" time each day, for the health of one's organs, as well as avoiding diaper rash.

Even if one doesn't wear diapers, airing one's nether regions for an hour or so daily can alleviate depression and, if done out of doors, can lead to some interesting questions from one's neighbors. Lifelong relationships have begun in this way.

M.

[plindboe]

Social taboos are completely weird.

So how do you feel about pedophilia and necrophilia?

[plindboe]

clarsct and plindboe, I guess part of the issue is intent?

Indeed. If the intent is sexual I have an objection. I just can't accept a pervert intentionally showing his erection in front of a child for instance. Is my objection a social taboo? Probably. A stiffy looks the same no matter if it's a pervert's or simply an unfortunate guy who can't control his blood flow to that fleshy thing a few inches beneat his navel(Being a guy I can testify that it can be almost impossibly to control that damn thing sometimes).


I guess in a world where everyone was nude, it'd be more difficult to shock someone by shaking your weenie at them.

I think that's very true. No shock without social influence.

[1984]

Why is it that women can wear almost totally "revealing" clothes but are only considered to be showing off their breasts if the nipple is visible?

I think in Brazil women can wear next to nothing on the beaches, so long as their nipples are covered - but I don't know if there's a law about it over there.

Who would have more hang-ups (pun unintended) - women going bottomless worried about cellulite, or men worried about penis size and shape?

Also, apart from a rise in cosmetic surgery, there'd be all the implications of hygene, like in a taxi-cab, restaurant, etc. Bring your own wipes? But then again, how many people wipe the public toilet seat before using it?

Then there's those guys who scratch their balls, and adjust their crotches. The waiter at my local restaurant does it in plain view. What's with that?

[LordoftheLeftHand]

So how do you feel about pedophilia and necrophilia?

As long as it is consensual I have no problem with it. Of course a dead body cannot give its consent (although it might be possible with a will...), and most people feel that children cannot give consent for much of anything.

And as far as bestiality goes; since it is legal to own a chicken, I figure it should be legal to "bump uglies" with one (assuming you own it).

LLH

[Rockin' Rick]

It won't HELP seal that all-important business deal...

"Let's shake on it."

[Rockin' Rick]

As Leela says to Fry and Bender "alright that's the third hose fight I've broken up this week, and the second one using actual hoses..."

[Zep]

"Let's shake on it."Yeah! Don't be a drip!

[Soapy Sam]

Once, some years ago, I went for a run in the nude, just to see what it felt like. (I was in the Sahara, so there may have been the odd surprised satellite photo interpreter at Langley, but I'm sure nobody else was a witness.)

I never repeated the experiment. There are very good reasons why the last thing a man should discard is his loincloth.

[JPK71]

There are very good reasons why the last thing a man should discard is his loincloth.



Its just not done - I prefer men to be totally covered at all times, whereas women - well, you get my drift.

[rjh01]

Once, some years ago, I went for a run in the nude, just to see what it felt like. (I was in the Sahara, so there may have been the odd surprised satellite photo interpreter at Langley, but I'm sure nobody else was a witness.)

I never repeated the experiment. There are very good reasons why the last thing a man should discard is his loincloth.

If you must run in the Sahara do it at night time, or at least dusk or dawn. Then sunburn will not be a major issue.