Matriarchal Brat Terrorizes Cruise Ship

[Jedi Knight]

A matriarchal totalitarian brat terrorized a cruise ship (http://www.thehawaiichannel.com/news/2164467/detail.html) because she didn't want to go on the cruise.

I hope she gets 20 years in prison, the max sentence.

JK

[Mr Manifesto]

Can you explain this matriarchal totalitarianism to me? I find your ideology very confusing.

[Checkmite]

Oh....terrorized only by writing notes? How boring and disappointing - I was expecting something like a mild hijacking, and had this wonderful mental image of Jedi on a cruise being terrorized by the Feminist From Hell. Well, it was funny while it lasted.

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by Mr Manifesto
Can you explain this matriarchal totalitarianism to me? I find your ideology very confusing.

Matriarchal totalitarianism is a term I created to describe the current political oppression in the United States. There is nothing confusing about it because if you live in the United States, you live under the oppressive militancy of matriarchal totalitarianism doctrine.

All you have to do to see it is open your eyes.

JK

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by Joshua Korosi
Oh....terrorized only by writing notes? How boring and disappointing - I was expecting something like a mild hijacking, and had this wonderful mental image of Jedi on a cruise being terrorized by the Feminist From Hell. Well, it was funny while it lasted.

She was a mini-feminist from hell. Think about it. Feminists are taught to use paper, send it off to soldiers (courts, FBI, SWAT, etc) so those soldiers can do their dirty-work for them.

That is what this brat did. She passed her notes and the soldiers turned the ship around. It is classic matriarchal totalitarianism.

JK

[Mr Manifesto]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


Matriarchal totalitarianism is a term I created to describe the current political oppression in the United States. There is nothing confusing about it because if you live in the United States, you live under the oppressive militancy of matriarchal totalitarianism doctrine.

All you have to do to see it is open your eyes.

JK

I'm sorry but I need you to explain what exactly it is. It is not enough to say it is a term you created to describe political oppression. What porcess does it describe? The words you used don't make sense. Define matriarchal totalitarianism or I won't be able to understand you.

[Checkmite]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


She was a mini-feminist from hell. Think about it. Feminists are taught to use paper, send it off to soldiers (courts, FBI, SWAT, etc) so those soldiers can do their dirty-work for them.

That is what this brat did. She passed her notes and the soldiers turned the ship around. It is classic matriarchal totalitarianism.

JK

Aha...but who teaches them to do this, and why aren't you doing anything to stop them?

But anyway....you don't find the idea of yourself and the cruise ship you're on being held hostage by a sadistic feminazi even slightly amusing?

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by Joshua Korosi


Aha...but who teaches them to do this, and why aren't you doing anything to stop them?

But anyway....you don't find the idea of yourself and the cruise ship you're on being held hostage by a sadistic feminazi even slightly amusing?

Leftist public schools and leftist universities teach them to do that.

JK

[schmdavi]

Yeah, its so awful nowadays, women are taught to use paper :rolleyes:

As i am new here, where do you get your ideas from, JK? Do you really have them all by yourself???

Or are the voices in your head helping you?

IMO she should get a mild fine and maybe a suspended jail sentence, one does do stupid things when one is 20 especially if one is lovesick.

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by schmdavi
As i am new here, where do you get your ideas from, JK? Do you really have them all by yourself???

Or are the voices in your head helping you?



Since you are new I must welcome you to the forum. ;)

JK

[Dancing David]

JK I have to comend you for your control, this is much better than the flaming from hell that you gave the newbies last week.
So how is this matriarchal, how do you now that she isn't a secret patriarch.
I guess the nest time a bunch of MEN decide to do something horrible, like kill school children with bombs or fly airplanes into a building that I will have license to call it 'patriarchal terrorism'?
The only link that I can see to matriarchy is that the perpetrator was a women.

Peace
dancing David

PS JK get his ideas from the Rightist Polemic Handbook, these are old arguements with little substance or flavor, they are very funny however.

[Crossbow]

If Captian Stubing was in charge, he would have had Gofer and Doc make her walk the plank!

[Craig]

Originally posted by Dancing David
I guess the nest time a bunch of MEN decide to do something horrible, like kill school children with bombs or fly airplanes into a building that I will have license to call it 'patriarchal terrorism'?

Nah, if it was a man who did that then he was obviously driven to it by feminist conspiricies. :rolleyes:

Who was that man you defended for killing his teachers when he failed his nursing exam, JK?

[Crossbow]

That was the Flores killings he was so proud of.

According to JK logic, Flores was terribly worried that he would not be able to get a job as a nurse after getting poor grades at the nursing school that he was attending. This school was largely staffed by women and Flores killed three of them.

Of course, JK being JK instantly reckoned that Flores was failed because of his gender and not because of poor performance therefore he was justified in killing the three women.

Ugh!

[schplurg]

Joshua:
Oh....terrorized only by writing notes? How boring and disappointing - I was expecting something like a mild hijacking...I would call it a hijacking.

The Previous Story (http://www.thehawaiichannel.com/news/2154716/detail.html)

This story was posted several days ago, same site as the original. I checked it out since the first story doesn't even allude to what was written on the notes.

The letter found on the Royal Caribbean Legend of the Seas said lives will be lost if the ship touches U.S. soil.

......

A team of investigators from the Coast Guard, the FBI, the Honolulu Police Department, U.S. Customs and U.S. Border Protection are investigating the letters.
Not to mention the Coast Guard escort the ship received. Sounds expensive. So this chick used terrorism to get her way, right? She took advantage of the world's increased concern for "terrororism" and hijacked an entire cruise ship in order to get her way. This bitch should be locked up.

This is a form of terrorism, similar to, but much worse than, yelling "Fire!" in a crowded theater. We can't let people get away with this crap. I hope they throw the book at her.

"One does stupid things when they are 20 and lovesick"? So F***** what?! She is an adult. I can't believe anyone is defending this "poor bleeding heart". Yes, once again, the criminal is now the victim. The press call her a "lovesick 20 year old" and suddenly we all feel sorry for her and think it's funny. :rolleyes:

An adult woman left death-threat notes on a ship and hijacked it. End of story. She is a criminal. What a wonderful precedent this would set if she just got a slap on the wrist. I would not find it amusing that my vacation was cut short because of some selfish whacked-out individual.

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by Crossbow
That was the Flores killings he was so proud of.

According to JK logic, Flores was terribly worried that he would not be able to get a job as a nurse after getting poor grades at the nursing school that he was attending. This school was largely staffed by women and Flores killed three of them.

Of course, JK being JK instantly reckoned that Flores was failed because of his gender and not because of poor performance therefore he was justified in killing the three women.

Ugh!

I never said that Flores was justified in killing in those women. I have told you that before but you ignore that part.

But I did say that Flores would not have killed those women unless they drove him to kill them. They drove him with matriarchal terror and with his back against the wall the bullets flew.

But I never said it was "justified", just cause-effect.

JK

[Ian Osborne]

Originally posted by Mr Manifesto
Can you explain this matriarchal totalitarianism to me? I find your ideology very confusing.

It's a function of the fact that his underpants are too tight. He can't think clearly because every time he shuffles in his chair, his nuts get a tug. Thus he has to stick to stock phrases and self-penned clichés. Also, getting an erection gives himself a stranglated hernia, so he's taught himself to hate women to make sure this doesn't happen. I've suggested we hold a telethon to buy him a pair of boxers, and this plan seems more attractive every time he starts a thread.

I agree with schplurg. This woman should go to prison for a long time. She took advantage of today's heightened tensions and caused great expense for the government and for the cruise line. Plus she caused government agents to be diverted from the very real task of the anti-terrorism effort. An effort where our government is already thinly spread. She put lives at risk by diverting these agents.

10 years in prison away from her boyfriend ought to do it.

[NightG1]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


I never said that Flores was justified in killing in those women. I have told you that before but you ignore that part.

But I did say that Flores would not have killed those women unless they drove him to kill them. They drove him with matriarchal terror and with his back against the wall the bullets flew.
JK

So, according to you, it was justifiable homicide - meaning his actions were justified. :rolleyes:

Gee, sometimes it takes several threads for you to contradict yourself. Now you save us the time by doing it in a single post. Well done.

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by NightG1


So, according to you, it was justifiable homicide - meaning his actions were justified. :rolleyes:

Gee, sometimes it takes several threads for you to contradict yourself. Now you save us the time by doing it in a single post. Well done.

The problem as a genius intellectual that I have on this forum at times is that I have to take things way down so people far below me can understand what I am talking about. It is tedious. Your post is an example of that.

If a chick jumps over a fence and winds up inside a pen of 20 starving pit bulls and they rip her apart and eat her alive, is it "justified?"

No.

But since the chick jumped the fence was it a possibility that the starving pit bulls would eat her alive? Of course. In sum it goes like this:

20 starving pit bulls inside an enclosed pen + 1 chick that hops the fence = meal for starving pit bulls.

No matter what I say about it, the chick is going to get eaten because no one fed the pit bulls. I could comment on it all day and nothing would change. It has nothing to do with justification theory, just cause-effect.

JK

[Craig]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight
But I did say that Flores would not have killed those women unless they drove him to kill them. They drove him with matriarchal terror and with his back against the wall the bullets flew.

The man failed his nursing exam.

He didn't have what was needed to be a nurse.

Nobody drove him to murder, he failed himself and took it out on others.

What you seem to be saying is that if they had allowed this unqualified person to become a nurse then everything would have been fine. Fortunately this isn't how real life works. There is nobody to blame for it except for him.

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by Craig


The man failed his nursing exam.

He didn't have what was needed to be a nurse.

Nobody drove him to murder, he failed himself and took it out on others.

What you seem to be saying is that if they had allowed this unqualified person to become a nurse then everything would have been fine. Fortunately this isn't how real life works. There is nobody to blame for it except for him.

Not true, the man was working in a nursing job for ten years prior to doing his clinicals. The clinicals that he was failed on were "tests" administered with severe bias--they were not written tests, they were "hands-on" and just because one person said he was "wrong" doesn't mean he was. When he pushed for a grievance about it, he was "dismissed" without recourse.

That is not America, and in my opinion was the cause-effect relationship that caused his shooting spree. Keep in mind that I don't think his shooting spree was justified. (the leftist response to anyone that seeks cause-effect explanations to these incidents)

Read the guy's suicide note...it was 20 pages long and spells out with great specificity why he went on his shooting spree.

JK

[Craig]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight
Not true, the man was working in a nursing job for ten years prior to doing his clinicals.

I apologise if what I said was untrue. I was basing it on (an admittedly not very good) memory. I'll try and find the original thread and reread it.

[Mr Manifesto]

I'm sorry to keep annoying you with this JK but it makes it hard to debate with you without knowing the terms. Please define MT for me. I'm not taking the piss- am genuinely confused.

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by Craig


I apologise if what I said was untrue. I was basing it on (an admittedly not very good) memory. I'll try and find the original thread and reread it.

Here is a summary from memory about the case from what I read. The guy was working as a nurse and going to school. He was living by himself trying to support himself and was paying child support.

At school, he passed all his written classes requiring texts and tests. The final phase of nursing is clinicals (my sister is a nurse so I know what it is about).

Anyway, when people do clinicals, they get sent to different hospitals and if someone doesn't "like you" they can "fail" you and everything you did prior to that is washed down the drain. That is what the guy complained about.

What the guy did was approach the school and tell them: "hey, let me retest, if I fail I have to pay student loans, I still won't be a registered nurse and I will starve."

The people running the program, according to the guy's suicide note, basically told him to get lost.

What it amounts to is this. If you are a college senior, went through four years of college and when you took your last college course to graduate a professor "fails" you so not only don't you graduate and get your degree, but you also have student loans due, etc. So basically you threw away four years of your life.

Now a regular college student could go back and take the class they failed to graduate, but this nursing student was being "kicked" out of the program completely. It was nasty, nasty business, in my opinion, and while I don't think it was justified for him to go on a shooting rampage because of it, I think the school failed that guy leadership wise. They failed that student (not grades but through leadership and teaching).

You don't fail people in their last class in the last semester of a program. That is ridiculous. If the guy was that bad, he should have been identified earlier. Since he wasn't identified earlier, that makes me believe that either the school just kept him in the program to milk him for tuition money and had no intentions of graduating him from the nursing program, or one of the instructors did it with personal vengeance.

The guy shot the school up but he only went after specific people he thought wronged him. Did they wrong him? It takes an honest person to sort that out, but when people get gunned down it is hard to interview them to find out the truth. The guy had a lot of external pressure (rent, child support, etc) which didn't help, but according to his suicide note he tried to get his situation heard and they "laughed" at him. Not a good way to convince a guy that he is not only not good enough to graduate from a program after he finishes 99.9% of it without any problems, but also that no one is out to "get him".

JK

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by Mr Manifesto
I'm sorry to keep annoying you with this JK but it makes it hard to debate with you without knowing the terms. Please define MT for me. I'm not taking the piss- am genuinely confused.

Here is the definition of the term I created:

Matriarchal Totalitarianism: 1. Undemocratic matriarchal ideological perversion of the nation-state through institutions of the public, education, law and governance . 2. Matriarchal-centered gender extremism. 3. Institutional anti-male dictatorship.

JK

[Craig]

Cheers for your summary JK, I've read the original source letter.

I've looked at a few other sources on the matter as a single source from one point of view isn't exactly enough to base an opinion on.

I'll look at more tomorrow.

Ta.

[MRC_Hans]

Originally posted by Craig
*snip* I've looked at a few other sources on the matter as a single source from one point of view isn't exactly enough to base an opinion on.

*snip* For Jedi Knight one POV is enough, especially if its his own. Being a genious and all, he can instantly recognize the Truth.

After all, he is the man who discovered that the VolksWagen Bug was invented by Chrysler.

---- Also Kudos for managing to derail your own thread. Not bad going.

Hans ;)

[a_unique_person]

Originally posted by Mr Manifesto


I'm sorry but I need you to explain what exactly it is. It is not enough to say it is a term you created to describe political oppression. What porcess does it describe? The words you used don't make sense. Define matriarchal totalitarianism or I won't be able to understand you.

Even if he did explain it, you still wouldn't be able to understand him.

[The Fool]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


Here is the definition of the term I created:

Matriarchal Totalitarianism: 1. Undemocratic matriarchal ideological perversion of the nation-state through institutions of the public, education, law and governance . 2. Matriarchal-centered gender extremism. 3. Institutional anti-male dictatorship.

JK

you were not allowed play with girls at pre-school where you jk. This is the result, cause-effect. :)


Jk, I was trying to figure out your daily routine. Would it be something like....

1. Breakfast
2. search conspiracy theory websites for items to post on Jref.
3. post Items, blaming "feminazis" if there is any female involvement, If there is no female involved blame "leftists"
4. spend the rest of the day avoiding requests for evidence to support your theories on who is to blame...
5. go to Bed.

close?

[Baker]

Originally posted by The Fool


you were not allowed play with girls at pre-school where you jk. This is the result, cause-effect. :)


Jk, I was trying to figure out your daily routine. Would it be something like....

1. Breakfast
2. search conspiracy theory websites for items to post on Jref.
3. post Items, blaming "feminazis" if there is any female involvement, If there is no female involved blame "leftists"
4. spend the rest of the day avoiding requests for evidence to support your theories on who is to blame...
5. go to Bed.

close?


Not that I agree or disagree but your post could be considered spamming.

[The Fool]

Originally posted by Baker


Not that I agree or disagree but your post could be considered spamming.

I really must disagree. It was a satirical comment on JK's propensity to blame everything on an imaginary conspiracy of "feminaz's" or "leftists".

as a further example may I offer your previous posting to the one where you suggest I am a spammer.

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Originally posted by renata
Would people please stop rating tons of thread poorly? This morning few if any threads in Politics had ratings. Now, all of them are rated, and most of them with one star. Stop that! That is juvenile. I have rated threads myself, but this kind of hit and run massive thread bashing is very stupid.

I fully expect some smarta$$ to rate this one star. Go ahead.


By the way, did you hear that Chewbacca will be in Episode 3?
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Sorry I disagree I’m only giving you a 1 star for this!


I am suggesting that this posting of yours is also satirical comment........or is it also spam?????????? What do you think?

[Baker]

Originally posted by The Fool


I really must disagree. It was a satirical comment on JK's propensity to blame everything on an imaginary conspiracy of "feminaz's" or "leftists".

If it makes you feel any better after further thought retract my statement.
I first took it as just a general insult but you did explain it well as just your opinion.


as a further example may I offer your previous posting to the one where you suggest I am a spammer.
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Originally posted by renata
Would people please stop rating tons of thread poorly? This morning few if any threads in Politics had ratings. Now, all of them are rated, and most of them with one star. Stop that! That is juvenile. I have rated threads myself, but this kind of hit and run massive thread bashing is very stupid.

I fully expect some smarta$$ to rate this one star. Go ahead.


By the way, did you hear that Chewbacca will be in Episode 3?
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Sorry I disagree I’m only giving you a 1 star for this!


I am suggesting that this posting of yours is also satirical comment........or is it also spam?????????? What do you think? [/B]
Well I thought funny I don’t believe her thread was meant to be that serous.
Actually, I gave her 5 Stars for it.

[The Fool]

Originally posted by Baker


If it makes you feel any better after further thought retract my statement.
I first took it as just a general insult but you did explain it well as just your opinion.

[B]
Well I thought funny I don’t believe her thread was meant to be that serous.
Actually, I gave her 5 Stars for it.

The knight is rarely affected by my chilish satire anyway. On the star rating business....Jedi used to get steamed up when people one star his threads. maybe he is returning the favor...

Is this true JK, are you the phantom thread rater????

[Bjorn]

Fool
Loose half your IQ....Ask me how. OK: How? :p

[The Fool]

Originally posted by Bjorn
Fool
OK: How? :p


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One poster has signed up for his second program and has trimmed down to a very athletic IQ of 65. He says he has never been so happy, he feels alive and full of energy once more. His wife says he has never looked better and thier love life has improved a lot.

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apologies to JK, I know this post looks like spam and quacks like spam but given enough time I would be able to tie in a connection to leftists conspiracy theories somehow...Plus Bjorn goaded me into it and he is a known troublemaker.

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by The Fool
Is this true JK, are you the phantom thread rater????

Phantom thread rater? lol. A headless horseman type-guy?

Whenever I post a new thread topic it gets a 1 star rating no less than 3 minutes later, and most of the time no one even reads the thread or replies to it before it gets its one star.

Maybe the star rating system should be dismantled. I really don't see the point of it anyway.

JK

[Bjorn]

Fool,
To find out you have to sign up to my IQ loss program and pay a non refundable deposit of 3 easy monthly payments of $29.95. Interested? Sounds cheap to me - sign me in!

One poster has signed up for his second program and has trimmed down to a very athletic IQ of 65.Ooops - that would be trimming up for me!

Bjorn goaded me into it and he is a known troublemaker. Que? :p

[The Fool]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight



Maybe the star rating system should be dismantled. I really don't see the point of it anyway.

JK
very true....it is only used by people to one star threads they don't like.......

[MRC_Hans]

Here is a summary from memory about the case from what I read. The guy was working as a nurse and going to school. He was living by himself trying to support himself and was paying child support.

At school, he passed all his written classes requiring texts and tests. The final phase of nursing is clinicals (my sister is a nurse so I know what it is about).

Anyway, when people do clinicals, they get sent to different hospitals and if someone doesn't "like you" they can "fail" you and everything you did prior to that is washed down the drain. That is what the guy complained about.
*Snip* This is the system used in most countries for educations where human qualities are as important as theoretical skills.

Obviously there will be people around who can pass all the exams with top grades, but simply don't have the human qualities to work as nurses.

And the opposite is true too: There will be people who have just the right personality, but for some reason are unable to learn the theoretical skills needed.

So what happened was that this person did fine in the schooling part, but was deemed unsuited because of his personal qualities. This judgement could have been wrong, but he proved it right himself:

Obviously somebody who shoots people whom he perceives have wronged him does not have have the mental balance and crisis handling cabability essential to being a nurse.

Hans

[BobK]

Hey Fool,

I can only assume that your I.Q. program is endorsed by the JREF because...

The default position of the JREF Forum is that any post is allowed as long as it does not violate one of the conditions below:

Snip>

The post contains commercial advertisements or spam.
:)

[Dancing David]

Since you are jumping threads: I'll post it here too:

By the way JK do you think it's funny to say there are no battered women in America? You say it all the time so either it's just rhetoric, stupidity or humor. Can you tell me if you think it's funny when a man chokes his wife until she passes out?


Inquiring minds want to know.

Peace
dancing david

PS Thanks for the definition of MT, it made me laugh very hard. The Supreme Council Of ArchMatriarchs is very pleased.