"Have You Been Smited?" : Twenty More Wonderful Creationist Arguments

[Dr Adequate]

* the scientists say that there's a missing link that there is no animal in between the monkey's and human's evolution thing how can you have a missing link when the whole chain is wrong and the scientists say that there is no way that matter can dissappear we were made with all the matter we need and before the big bang all the matter was in one little ball of ooze and what i want to know is how did that little ball of matter get there? why don't they answer all the questions, just some of them, the ones they want to answer?

* But anyway, I'm just replying on one of your evolution theories, the one about the black peppered moth. I believe that the man that came up with that theory, confessed about gluing those moths to the trees to take that photo, and he ended up going to jail. Correct me if im wrong, but that is what i've been informed.

* You talked about how evolution has been observed by insects becomming resistant to pesticides. Again, this isn't evolution, it is variation. It happens to people all the time, a person that doesn't like the taste of onions, and eats nothing but onions for a month, they will adapt to the taste. They don't evolve taste buds that make onions taste good.

* Don't waste your time with these people (I guess I have a little time to waste). They will never get it. I was amazed at Tim Thompson's mathematical, singularity, general relativity, quantum mechanical... if a/b=c, and carry the 4, then the universe could not literally be born from nothing. NO KIDDING.

* When God created the Earth He created it with age, we know this because of Adam and Eve. They were not two when they were created, they were adults. Also most scientists are now admitting to the fact that evolution did not take place.

* Kent Hovind is not an embarresment to the creation movement, usally when he cannot be refuted, then this is what the evil-lutionist resort to. He is very good friends with the father of the modern young earth creationist movement Henry Morris, so your facts are liar, which I am sure you are aware of.

* Using your own words: "fact" doesn't mean "absolute certainty". Then why teach these things as "truth" to our impressionable school age children? Evolution of species is a documented fact? What merit does it have then, because a "fact" is only a half-truth? I do not want my children being taught half-truths (lies)

* hey dude. Did George washington exist? were you there to see him? Then all you are doing is relying on books and textbooks to tell you who he was and what he did. Did god exist? You never saw him either. the bible tells you exactly who he is and was nd will always be, but you don't believe in the bible. Why believe the textbooks?

* Person 1: Well, how do creationists know that the Big Bang isn't true? Person 2: Tell me, Matt. If you put a bomb in your room, do you think setting it off would make it clean or dirty? 1) That's easy. A bomb would cause a huge mess. I would have clothes and toys all over the place. Mom wouldn't be happy about that at all. 2) Well, you can think of the Big Bang kind of like a big bomb. Evolutionists think that when this explosion happened things got more organized or straightened up instead of getting more disorganized or messy. 1) That sure doesn't make any sense. Another way we know evolution isn't true is to look at our so-called relatives, the monkeys. Man and animals do have many things in common, two eyes, two ears, and the way we breathe, for example. But if you compare DNA, the instructions inside our body that tell us how to look, of monkeys and men, there are some big differences. For the DNA of a monkey to accidentally change to the DNA of a man would be like saying I accidentally jumped over the Grand Canyon So big bang created everything that looks so beatiful on Earth? I wonder how Earth would look after an atomic bomb, maybe we might get more beautiful. Your logic is sad.

* You are a moron, the geological collum was deposited rapidly and there is petrified trees connecting the layers right side up and upside down. These trees prove the layers were formed rapidly, because the trees conect them together. mabe the roots grew during the flood whitch water level reached above the highest mountian. How is oil and coal made? Roots growing 7000 feet down doesnt dissprove the the rapid formation, mabe during the flood seeds were buried. These layers are not diffrent ages, and how come there is no erosion marks between the layers. I did erosion controll, and underground construction. I am not going to fall for your false science. The geological collum is based on circular reasoning. Your carbon dating is assumed constant, and that is unknown. carbon date a live snail and see what you get 25,000 years.Plus how many super novas do we have, not millions of years worth. The mammonths were froze rapidly (small ice crystals in blood) You would need -300 deg below to freeze the mammoths with unroted food in there stomach, the inside would rot because of their stomach acid hello. There is no proof of anything being consistant, if there was more observations would favor the earth as under 10,00 years old. Go to drdino.com and learn real science.

* archology was founded onproving the bible wrong, yet everything that archologist have found have continued to do the oppisite and has always proven the bible correct.

* AS for evolution and your big bang one question where did the dirt come from? so don't tell people that its not a belief as in a religon.

* You can try to discredit those ''creationist''but it's not working! If you look at the new polls, you will see that the lunatic fringe of atheistic philosophy, which is what EVOLUTION is, and nothing more, is being seriously challenged by THINKING and curious people. Now, all the sudden the degrees of the evolutionist/scientist is becoming a worthless piece of paper when the doubt of a philosophical ''theory'' is being dumped into the recycle bin of YAK! Imagine. Dawkins having to defend his degree based on a false science! Will Oxford call it back in when they discover the value of teaching the false science of evolution is equivalent to a day at Disney World!

* Well there is a few laws you should refer to before spreading that theory around. 1st law of thermal dynamics “matter cannot be created or destroyed”. This means that everything was here from the start, or if you are a creationist, you would believe that it was created by God who would be powerful enough to do anything with this universe.

* Why isnt Abiogenesis, the theory that life spontaneously came into existence from base chemicals completely contradicted by Newton's Second Law of Thermodynamics.

* There hasn't been a single fossil found that represents a transitional animal, an in-between phases, missing link. It has been speculated but never found. We should see those everywhere. Lizards with wings and fish with legs and stuff.

* Adaptation occurs but not evolution! Read the Bible and you will see the truth. Jacob made his cattle copulate before striped rods, and wouldn’t you know but the babies came out striped! From this Biblical evidence, we can safely say that polar bears emerge from brown bears because they are conceived amid all that white snow. Similarly, peacocks probably were big-tailed birds that spent a few generations among colorful flowers while some sharks adapted their coloration from the dark water beneath and sunlight above. Test it for yourselves! However, you should ensure that a righteous man like Jacob performs the experiment, as evolutionists will falsify the data so they can continue living in sinful debauchery without being held to God’s rules. I dare you to post this because it thoroughly disproves your pet theory!

* Evolution is fake. I want evolutionist to explain this. How do grass and trees grow from a small seed (Genesis 1:11). The sky is unreachable and it had to be a creator to that. People dying in their sleep. The Moon, sun, stars, clouds,rainbow,mountains, planets outer space. Why are ya'll celebrating Christmas without knowing the true meaning. It is better to Worship GOD and there is not one, then to be athiest and he is there.

* Another fact is the earth is slowing down at a pretty constant rate. If you go back too far the earth would be spinning so fast that the dinosaurs that text books say were there, would have been flung off the earth.

* You wish you knew what was the truth? Where has all your scientific mummbo jummbo been proven without a doubt? Do you have a time machine? Can you go back and prove one way or the other? How come you think your way is the truth? Have you been smited? Were you made to feel inferior to someone else based upon there obivious unique interpretation of life based upon our only cronological existence?

[JLam]

May I repost this on another board? (Giving you credit, of course.)

[fishbob]

* the scientists say that . . . big snip . . . unique interpretation of life based upon our only cronological existence?
That was painful to read. It must have been agonizing to write.

[Dr Adequate]

May I repost this on another board? (Giving you credit, of course.) Sure. Speaking of giving credit, these are all real posts made this year in the feedback section on the talkorigins archive (http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/feedback/2005.html).

[Kopji]

Adaptation occurs but not evolution! Read the Bible and you will see the truth. Jacob made his cattle copulate before striped rods, and wouldn’t you know but the babies came out striped! From this Biblical evidence, we can safely say that polar bears emerge from brown bears because they are conceived amid all that white snow. Similarly, peacocks probably were big-tailed birds that spent a few generations among colorful flowers while some sharks adapted their coloration from the dark water beneath and sunlight above. Test it for yourselves! However, you should ensure that a righteous man like Jacob performs the experiment, as evolutionists will falsify the data so they can continue living in sinful debauchery without being held to God’s rules. I dare you to post this because it thoroughly disproves your pet theory!


LOL, This one is too over the top. That whooshing sound is you being caught in a science time warp and taken back 4000 years.

Genesis 30:37-42
http://www.angelfire.com/pa/greywlf/genetics.html

[Bone_Vulture]

* hey dude. Did George washington exist? were you there to see him? Then all you are doing is relying on books and textbooks to tell you who he was and what he did. Did god exist? You never saw him either. the bible tells you exactly who he is and was nd will always be, but you don't believe in the bible. Why believe the textbooks?

I wonder if the mental anguish caused by reading arguments similar to this one will transform to pure physical torment if continued unobstructed long enough?

[Dogdoctor]

Sure. Speaking of giving credit, these are all real posts made this year in the feedback section on the talkorigins archive (http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/feedback/2005.html).
Whew! I was about to say that if all that came from one person it would come close to proving the existence of extraterrestrials. What planet were they from?

[jimtron]

When God created the Earth He created it with age, we know this because of Adam and Eve. They were not two when they were created, they were adults.
I thought newborns were zero when they were born, not two. ??

[shalomsteph]

That was painful to read. It must have been agonizing to write.

I got frustrated with the grammar and just scanned it. I was hoping that someone with more patience would answer his (questions?) so we could cut to the chase.

[The Kilted Yaksman]

Reading that mountain of...stuff...made my brain hurt.

[shalomsteph]

I thought newborns were zero when they were born, not two. ??

Me too.

Creationists have to have people beginning as adults with an inate sense of self and invented life experience. Otherwise, they would not have survived.

My kids go to a Jewish private school, and they are taught evolution. (I live in Kansas, so to learn evolution, the kids have to be in a religious private school...go figure) Anyway, my 15 year old daughter believes that evolution and creation do not have to be exclusive of each other. The Torah begins with, "In A beginning", whereas the Christian version has "In THE beginning" So my daughter believes that the Torah is a history of the Jewish people-nothing more, nothing less. The bible, therefore, begins with a line of people..there were other people on earth besides them, and there were people before and after them. But the Jewish people came from this line.
I might not be explaining it right, but that is the gist of it. Jews don't believe in a literal creation because our version of the bible doesn't say it that way. As Kaitlin (my daughter) says,"The Christians changed a word and then ran with it."

[HeyLeroy]

Thanks, Dr. A, for bringing us that small consolidation of small thinking.

It makes me wonder, as these were replies sent to talkorigins, did these people not even bother to peruse the materials there? Obviously, their shamans sent them there to... add their opinions? Show what imbeciles they are? I can't imagine their motivations, but that kind of closed-minded thinking is almost as dangerous as a bomb-vest. Sad.

[jimtron]

(I live in Kansas, so to learn evolution, the kids have to be in a religious private school...go figure)
Now that's irony.
Jews don't believe in a literal creation because our version of the bible doesn't say it that way.
Although the source (the book of Genesis) is the same, right? How different is Genesis in Christian bibles compared to the Torah? Or am I completely off base?

[Dr Adequate]

Others in the series (for newcomers) :

My Top Twenty Favorite Creationist Arguments (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=28782)
Twenty More Wonderful Creationist Arguments (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=37436)
Tell Me Why I Don't Like Fundies : Twenty More Creationist Arguments (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=39841)

[shalomsteph]

Now that's irony.

Although the source (the book of Genesis) is the same, right? How different is Genesis in Christian bibles compared to the Torah? Or am I completely off base?

Yes, and although, when Jews and Christians are trying to get along, they say, "It's the same bible", it really isn't. There are different "translations" in the Christian bible, even between their different versions. Not surprisingly, most of the differences involve making the Hebrew bible correlate to Jesus being the messiah. (Like changing Isaiah 7:14 from "maiden" to "virgin", thus "predicting" the virgin birth of Jesus) There is a site, http://www.jewsforjudaism.com that goes into more detail and explains many of the differences between the two texts.

From what I understand, the main difference between Jews and Christians, other than biblical differences, is that we do not evangelize. I believe we are also the only religion that believes atheists and agnostics have the same shot at "salvation" as anyone else does, since it is all about what kind of life one lives and not what is believed. (My own personal loophole...) :)

[Bone_Vulture]

Others in the series (for newcomers) :

My Top Twenty Favorite Creationist Arguments (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=28782)
Twenty More Wonderful Creationist Arguments (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=37436)
Tell Me Why I Don't Like Fundies : Twenty More Creationist Arguments (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=39841)

I suggest you add those to your sig, as a reminder. ;)

[burrahobbit]

I believe we are also the only religion that believes atheists and agnostics have the same shot at "salvation" as anyone else does, since it is all about what kind of life one lives and not what is believed. (My own personal loophole...) :)


Not so. Both Hinduism and Buddhism couldnt care a damn whether you believe in them or not. Your future is determined by your actions not your beliefs

[Mojo]

Others in the series (for newcomers) :

My Top Twenty Favorite Creationist Arguments (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=28782)
Twenty More Wonderful Creationist Arguments (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=37436)
Tell Me Why I Don't Like Fundies : Twenty More Creationist Arguments (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=39841)Not forgetting, of course, this (http://www.fstdt.com/bottom.asp?month=11&year=2005#8255): One of the most basic laws in the universe is the Second Law of Thermodynamics. This states that as time goes by, entropy in an environment will increase. Evolution argues differently against a law that is accepted EVERYWHERE BY EVERYONE. Evolution says that we started out simple, and over time became more complex. That just isn't possible: UNLESS there is a giant outside source of energy supplying the Earth with huge amounts of energy. If there were such a source, scientists would certainly know about it. I'm sure there was a thread about this recently, but I can't find it.

[Bone_Vulture]

Not forgetting, of course, this (http://www.fstdt.com/bottom.asp?month=11&year=2005#8255):

Oh man, that material's grand! :D

Love that quote you posted, too.

Evolution says that we started out simple, and over time became more complex. That just isn't possible: UNLESS there is a giant outside source of energy supplying the Earth with huge amounts of energy.

Huge source of energy outside Earth? Clearly God!

[Bone_Vulture]

By the way, do the creationist folks have some rationale for their term "neo-Darwinist"? Are there paleo-Darwinists somewhere, and what's the difference between the groups?

[Yahweh]

Unfortunately, something is wrong with FSTDT.com servers, but I found a nice Google cache of some of my favorites:

"[Replying to "What raw materials did God use to make raw materials?"]

he used his words. The bible said he spoke and it was. Did you that quarks the things that make up protons and nuetrons and electrons in atoms are made up of sound waves? Pretty interesting huh."

My soul is still longing after all these years, Myspace

"[Reviewing Richard Dawkins' "The Ancestors Tale"]

Another problem with evolution is the well documented 'dinosaur problem'. If the world was based on survival of the fittest, humans (and most other animals still around today) would have been killed off by the dinosaurs several hundred years ago.

So in conclusion: an excellent book despite its wrongness."

Tanya "Tanya", Amazon.com Reviews

"And honestly, if evolution is a fact, why does 80% of North America believe that God created all things in some form or another, and a mere 20% trust evolution. Give me a break. Those numbers hardly equal a fact."

SilverEagle, Christian Forums

"The mark of cain is black skin. Jesus did not have the mark of cain so he had to be white. Plus every painting i have ever seen of jesus shows him as being white. If we cant trust paintings what can we trust?"

JoshyPants1234, Myspace

"Through my own studies I have found that Charles Darwin, refers to Earth as "Mother Nature"

Now the term Mother Nature is popular amongst the wiccan/satanistic cowds..."

Romansch3vrs11, Christian Forums

""Fossils" are carved from rock, or some are made of plaster.

I have even been told of one case where a skeleton was carved from old soap."

father_thomas_aquinas, Yahoo! News Boards

"I'm classifying myself and others like me as Neanderthal descendents rather than Homo sapiens, since I am Caucasian and not of African origins or descent, as neo-Darwinists claim Homo sapiens are.

Neo-Darwinists associate Homo sapiens with African monkey and ape ancestors. I associate myself and others like me with the Neanderthal descendents of Noah in order to be included in Christ's own ancestral genealogy."

jcrawford, Evolution Fairytale Forums

"I want to hear your explanation for the cambodian explosion [emphasis added]."

Tyler, Myspace

"Loads of people say they can't hear God.

I for one can. Through out my day, He's the only one I talk to. I have no friends. He's the reason why I'm not out of my mind."

WebbyCaster, e-team revolution

[hammegk]

1. Support the effort to stamp out mental illness or we will kill you.

2. Bunch of wiseacres in dorm room "Who wants to send one next?".

3. Other.


Any guesses what the real sources are? ;)

[Anti_Hypeman]

No Ray Comfort quotes?

http://www.livingwaters.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=245

http://www.livingwaters.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=231

http://www.livingwaters.com/Merchant2/graphics/tracts/prophecy/index.html

[Nucular]

:boggled:

Creationists make the baby darwin giggle.

I lurve those TO feedback archives, and I lurve your occasional anthologies Dr A :D

[Mojo]

Huge source of energy outside Earth? Clearly God!At least, according to JMW Turner. ;)

[Kaydens]

Nggggggghhhhhhhhh!

*Bangs head against desk*

Just when you thought you'd found the very depths of human stupidity, Dr Average comes up trumps with a whole new batch!

Sir I salute you and take my leave to go and end my life in despair over the future of humanity. What was it Judge Jones called this drivel in his Kitzmiller decision? Ah yes "Breathtaking inanity" that was it!

[Marc L]

It reminds me of why, back in the day, I was too embarrassed to join in with Creationists arguing against Evolutionists. Not because I believed the Evolutionists, but because the Creationists seemed so....uneducated. :boggled:

Marc

[Dr Adequate]

Check this out:

Let us consider the earth as a closed system in regards to the passage of H2O in and out of the system. Clearly this is a safe assumption as it is manifestly evident that no water leaves the earth (ignoring
space exploration).

Ninety-seven percent of the water on Earth is salt water. Fresh water resides on land or in glaciers. As this water is used, it trickles down by gravity to the oceans of the world and becomes mixed with the salt water. You will note that no water is trickling back up to land as this would contradict the energy law of fluid dynamics i.e. water cannot flow uphill without an external energy source.

I submit that if evolutionists were correct and the earth were over 4 billion years old that the supply of fresh water would have long run out. Four billion years of the fresh water flowing downhill to the oceans would result in dry lakes and rivers. Clearly this is a contradiction in the theory of evolution.

[Aepervius]

Check this out:
You will note that no water is trickling back up to land as this would contradict the energy law of fluid dynamics i.e. water cannot flow uphill without an external energy source.

Woot ! I think I have to run to the million dollard challenge forum and posit the evaporation/rain cycle as paranormal then. See ! I will soon be $1000000 richer !!!

[Dr Adequate]

That has an external energy source.

No, his real mistake is that he thinks that salt water doesn't evaporate.

[brodski]

That has an external energy source.

No, his real mistake is that he thinks that salt water doesn't evaporate.
Yeah right, next you'll be telling me that fresh water just falls from the sky!

[alfaniner]

I thought newborns were zero when they were born, not two. ??

Unless born in China, where they are considered 1 as soon as they are born (in their 1st year).

[thatguywhojuggles]

Unless born in China, where they are considered 1 as soon as they are born (in their 1st year).

I learn something new every day.



from the above link in Anti_Hypeman's post: http://www.livingwaters.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=231

In a review at the bottom of the webpage:

Good. God uses this one. Now, I suggest to use it gently and respectfully. Just because this gives you the knockout power, doesn't mean you have the RIGHT to slug your new agnostic buddy across his/her face.

Are you afraid? They're out there, with this amunition, ready to take us down. Be afraid. Be VERY afraid!

[Bone_Vulture]

"a week ago I went to the mountains of Colorado with some friends, one of whom preaches. He's a creationist big into 'trying to' refute evolutionists... I said to him, 'you know why you creationists hardly ever look good in an argument with an evolutionist?' 'No, why?' he asked. I said, 'because evolution’s premise is the repudiation of the existence of G-D. Therefore it's excelling is very important tosatan, therefore evolutionists, particularly the fervent ones, are closely watched over and protected bysatan. he gives them the belief system and arguments to discredit wishy-washy counter arguments, probably assigns a personal imp to plant thoughts and words in times of debate. Creationists end up arging of their own limited resources against timeless spiritual entities with unlimited resources for lies and arguments.'

I asked him, 'you ever heard of a creationist binding the evolutionist's demon before engaging the evolutionist?' (he’s of that anti-spirit denomination, went right over his head). 'No, actually, I never have', he said. I told him, 'that’s the trouble, none do, in fact it doesn't even occur to them, I've never heard of one doing it.' I told him to try it the next time he's confronted,.. and, at the same time, ask the HS to give you the thoughts and words you need. 'You'll find out that even the best of evolutionists become disarmed when his protective demon is gagged and a particularly poignant point is raised in the discussion (as planted by the HS).'"

I can see from the other quotations at fstdt.com that the holy spirit has indeed worked overtime, producing those poignant points! :rolleyes:

[ungoliant]

creationists are so haughty they think they can twist and interpret science to fit their ends and no one will notice.

well, they got this much right, their followers will not notice. they will accept whatever they are told and spread it as if fact.


in fact, i have challenged christians i know to look up different scientific facts from time to time in order to let them in on the truth about something and to date not a one has.

[Jekyll]

from the above link in Anti_Hypeman's post: http://www.livingwaters.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=231

Also from that website:
Have I committed adultery (including premarital sex and lust)?
Is lusting after your wife really considered adultury by some christians?

[Ashles]

[quote=Dr Adequate;1351626* Another fact is the earth is slowing down at a pretty constant rate. If you go back too far the earth would be spinning so fast that the dinosaurs that text books say were there, would have been flung off the earth.[/quote]
That must be a joke. It just must.

[Nucular]

That must be a joke. It just must.
Oh Ashles, have you really been away so long?

;)

[Jon.]

Also from that website:

Is lusting after your wife really considered adultury by some christians?

[Ned Flanders]
Reverend Lovejoy, I think I'm coveting my own wife!
[/Ned Flanders]

[Jon.]

Also from that website:

Is lusting after your wife really considered adultury by some christians?

[Ned Flanders]
Reverend Lovejoy, I think I'm coveting my own wife!
[/Ned Flanders]

[Temporal Renegade]

Every time I read the rantings for Fundies, I'm always struck by the 'fact' that they still consider themselves to be the calm, rational ones, and we skeptics are the ranting lunatics...

By the way, has a Fundie ever tried to explain dinosaurs? Why we have 'skelotons' from them, and the like? Or are those just "Evolutionary propaganda"?

[Bone_Vulture]

By the way, has a Fundie ever tried to explain dinosaurs? Why we have 'skelotons' from them, and the like? Or are those just "Evolutionary propaganda"?

Nope, according to the religious kooks, man coexisted peacefully with the dinosaurs, and some of those dinosaurs still exist today.

[Nyarlathotep]

By the way, has a Fundie ever tried to explain dinosaurs? Why we have 'skelotons' from them, and the like? Or are those just "Evolutionary propaganda"?

They try all the time. Pick your wild theory:

1) Dinosaurs still exist (Kent Hovind loves this one)

2) Dinosaur fossils are the work of the Devil to fool Christians

3) Dinosaur fossils are hoaxes perpetrated by evil atheist scientists

4) Dinosaurs have gone extinct but are mentioned in the Bible (i.e. the references to 'Giants in the Earth')

5) Dinosaurs were the work of the Devil and the flood was aimed as much at kiling them as killing the evil humans.

I have heard all five theories bandied about at different times. I am sure there are other, crazier explanations.

[Temporal Renegade]

Nope, according to the religious kooks, man coexisted peacefully with the dinosaurs, and some of those dinosaurs still exist today.

Well, then...that would certainly explain this! :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/Tremas/Television%20and%20Movies/flintstones.gif

[Temporal Renegade]

They try all the time. Pick your wild theory:

1) Dinosaurs still exist (Kent Hovind loves this one)

2) Dinosaur fossils are the work of the Devil to fool Christians

3) Dinosaur fossils are hoaxes perpetrated by evil atheist scientists

4) Dinosaurs have gone extinct but are mentioned in the Bible (i.e. the references to 'Giants in the Earth')

5) Dinosaurs were the work of the Devil and the flood was aimed as much at kiling them as killing the evil humans.

I have heard all five theories bandied about at different times. I am sure there are other, crazier explanations.


My fave is the one about the Giants, although, according to my former Sunday school teacher, the Giant title was meant for Goliath & his kin, not 'big lizards'. :)

[Nucular]

By the way, has a Fundie ever tried to explain dinosaurs? Why we have 'skelotons' from them, and the like?

I think you mean 'skelingtons'. Have you never set foot in a liberry?

Nope, according to the religious kooks, man coexisted peacefully with the dinosaurs, and some of those dinosaurs still exist today.

... as Creationists?

[hammegk]

They try all the time. Pick your wild theory:

1) Dinosaurs still exist (Kent Hovind loves this one)

2) Dinosaur fossils are the work of the Devil to fool Christians

3) Dinosaur fossils are hoaxes perpetrated by evil atheist scientists

4) Dinosaurs have gone extinct but are mentioned in the Bible (i.e. the references to 'Giants in the Earth')

5) Dinosaurs were the work of the Devil and the flood was aimed as much at kiling them as killing the evil humans.

I have heard all five theories bandied about at different times. I am sure there are other, crazier explanations.
You forgot that all was put in place during the six day creation phase (to give the hell bound non-believers something to do 'til they go there). ;)

[Bone_Vulture]

Well, then...that would certainly explain this! :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v66/Tremas/Television%20and%20Movies/flintstones.gif

That's only a cartoon. In real life, men rode dinosaurs on saddles. ;)

[Temporal Renegade]

I think you mean 'skelingtons'. Have you never set foot in a liberry?


... as Creationists?


I'm sorry...I stand corrupted! :)

[Temporal Renegade]

That's only a cartoon. In real life, men rode dinosaurs on saddles. ;)

Leave it to the Liberal media to furnish me with the wrong picture! :D

[Achán hiNidráne]

Yet more photographic evidence that man and dinosaur co-existed:

http://www.arrrr.com/dinoriders/dinowar-2.jpg

HARNESS THE POWER!

[Mongrel]

1) Dinosaurs still exist (Kent Hovind loves this one)

He does better than that, check out this article (http://www.pandasthumb.org/pt-archives/000947.html) at Pandas Thumb, and look at the links.
He introduces such amazing "scientific" facts such as "Scientists have theorized that T-Rex could probably breathe fire" or postulating that "...you could very easily pull the arms off a T-Rex."

[Bone_Vulture]

"Scientists have theorized that T-Rex could probably breathe fire" or postulating that "...you could very easily pull the arms off a T-Rex."

Kids love to play with T-Rex; only $19.95 at Wal-Mart!

And another jewel from fstdt.com...

"Nooooo, the 'box' is the human mind and body. OUTSIDE the box is the spiritual realm of God and how much He loves us through Jesus. Christians think outside the box more."

We need more "LOL" smileys.

[Bone_Vulture]

Self-righteousness so thick you could cut it with a knife! :rolleyes:

"Most of you have responded as if it was the life of a saved person who was going to lose it... the slightly more difficult hypothetical question is when the life of an unsaved person is at stake. Would I renounce Christ to save the life of an unsaved friend of mine, so that she might have a chance at life and coming to accept salvation? I would say that I wouldn't. What sort of example would I set if I were to renounce Christ before her? "

[UrsulaV]

... or postulating that "...you could very easily pull the arms off a T-Rex."

You can always tell the cruel children. They're the ones that pull the arms off the T-rexs and watch 'em flop sadly around on the windowsill.

[Mojo]

They try all the time. Pick your wild theory:

1) Dinosaurs still exist They do! But they've evolved feathers.

[Dr Adequate]

I so want to see Kent Hovind armwrestle with T. Rex.

Who'd win: the vicious animal with the tiny brain ... or the dinosaur?

[Yahweh]

One of my favorite examples this week over at the FSTDT:
"['We teach children to think in a rational, and logical manner. How can we expec tthem to understand something as irrational as God?']

If they can't understand the idea of anything irrational, such as God, then why teach them imaginary numbers, and fractions? Those things are not logical."

krimsondraegon, Christian Forums (http://www.fstdt.com/comments.asp?id=8833)

[Bone_Vulture]

One of my favorite examples this week over at the FSTDT:

Damn those irrational fractions! That's why pi is best left at 3.

[Bone_Vulture]

"If you prefer organizations that believe in human rights, why are you posting links to antisemtic websites [Doctors without Borders, Amnesty International] that condone the terrorist Intifada and the ethnic cleansing of Jews in Gaza?"

History, biology, politics.. is there a topic that the religious loons do not have a wacky opinion about?

[Bone_Vulture]

"I have a question. What about 'bi-sexulas'? What's next....bi-sexual 'rights'? Would it be okay for a bi-sexual to 'marry' a 'male' and a 'female'?"

...

Iacchus! :eek:

[Hawk one]

I so want to see Kent Hovind armwrestle with T. Rex.

Who'd win: the vicious animal with the tiny brain ... or the dinosaur?

I'm really unsure which of the descriptions are meant to convey Hovind, as he fits both the "vicious animal" and the "dinosaur" description...