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Ausmerican
13th January 2006, 08:53 PM
“What Would Jesus Do?” (WWJD?) Has gone from the realm of a hypothetical question to become an industry. Everything from t-shirts to bumper sticker to those trendy little rubber bands for your wrists implore us to ask ourselves what Jesus would do in any given situation before committing ourselves to a course of action. Looking at this question rationally makes me ask; is this any more sensible a question to ask ourselves than What Would Superman Do?

Before anyone gets the idea that this is simply a rant (which it may be) by an atheist (which I am) I mean this question equally for fellow non believers and those who choose to believe in the life and divinity of Jesus. My rationale is as follows.

Both Jesus and Superman are icons of mythic status. Even a biblical literalist, I think, would have to admit that even if they believe Jesus was not a myth his story and deeds have well entered into the realm of myth as the term is generically used. Or perhaps substituting the word legend for myth would be less offensive to believers?

Both Jesus and Superman had multiple authors chronicling their adventures thereby adding a variety of cultural perspectives and differing points of view. Neither has an autobiographical work, Superman for obvious reasons, Jesus for debatable ones.

Both Jesus and Superman exist in a world utterly unlike ours. Jesus, from a primitive desert culture devoid of all modern technology and learning. Superman, from a world superficially similar to our own but with aliens, metahumans, magic and supervillians.

Lastly, both Jesus and Superman, to quote the old TV show, “came to earth with powers and abilities far beyond those of mortal men.”

Therefore when asking what either of these two in any given situation the answer could range from divide a loaf of bread and a fish into enough to feed thousands or raise the victim from the dead on the one hand to fly up and catch the bus as it falls from the bridge or rebuild New Orleans in a day on the other.

Certainly the above examples are of a physical or mystical power type I admit. But to be honest do we not all base what we can or will do on our abilities? Whether those abilities are financial, physical, mental or whatever our abilities and circumstances define who we are and what we can do. And since we have no abilities or circumstances in common with either of these characters so far as I can tell I can’t see how, in any rational way asking WWJD makes any more sense than asking WWSD. Especially since the probable answer is “Something I am in no way capable of doing or even thinking of.”

ImaginalDisc
13th January 2006, 11:30 PM
All true, but you're forgetting something. Superman's a dick.

http://www.superdickery.com/dick/5.html

c4ts
13th January 2006, 11:51 PM
I remember this website.
My absolute favorite:
http://www.superdickery.com/images/dick/1296_4_063.jpg

Ausmerican
14th January 2006, 08:16 AM
Hey Jesus was a dick to trees lets not forget. Oh and pigs, JC was a dick to pigs.

Iacchus
14th January 2006, 08:43 AM
I have a boss at work who tends to be an over achiever and behaves as if he's superman. And yet he can't quite understand why people won't get with the program, and resorts to browbeating and nitpicking to get his point across.

UrsulaV
14th January 2006, 08:47 AM
I suspect my desire to go through life thinking "What Would Superman Do?" would fail as soon as I got to a situation best resolved by flying really fast around the earth until I reversed time.

jjramsey
14th January 2006, 09:11 AM
I can’t see how, in any rational way asking WWJD makes any more sense than asking WWSD.

Simple. Ask people what they think of when they think of Jesus and most people will think of a compassionate guy who tolerated most sinners but had it in for hypocrites. Ask people what they think of when they think of Superman and you will get stuff about invulnerability, superstrength, flight, kryptonite, etc. Jesus is at least as much known for his compassion and ethical teaching as for his miracles, and asking WWJD is asking about the ethical stuff, not the signs and wonders. Superman, on the other hand, is known primarily because of his superpowers.

Ladewig
14th January 2006, 09:50 AM
Simple. Ask people what they think of when they think of Jesus and most people will think of a compassionate guy who tolerated most sinners but had it in for hypocrites. Ask people what they think of when they think of Superman and you will get stuff about invulnerability, superstrength, flight, kryptonite, etc. Jesus is at least as much known for his compassion and ethical teaching as for his miracles, and asking WWJD is asking about the ethical stuff, not the signs and wonders. Superman, on the other hand, is known primarily because of his superpowers.

I would go even further and say Jesus actually said that He was here to teach people what to do and how to live life according to God's instructions.
I agree; big difference between Jesus and Superman.

Haywire
14th January 2006, 11:38 AM
What Would Satan Do?
Oh, nevermind.

Ausmerican
14th January 2006, 03:29 PM
I would go even further and say Jesus actually said that He was here to teach people what to do and how to live life according to God's instructions.
I agree; big difference between Jesus and Superman.
Ummm that would be the 'jealous god?'
The lovng god?
The angry god?
The compassionate god?
The vengeful god?
The seemingly bipolar god?
This is a plus for Jesus how exactly?

LawnOven
14th January 2006, 03:53 PM
What Would Satan Do?
Oh, nevermind.

That's what I thought at first too; probably not the only ones.

I'm sure that we can atleast all agree that superman could kick jesus's ass. Walking on water *pssh* superman can fly! And he gets his power from the sun; he's environmentally friendly.

Dr Adequate
14th January 2006, 05:35 PM
Lois Lane!

Man Of Steel, Woman of Kleenex (http://www.larryniven.org/stories/Man_of_Steel_Woman_of_Kleenex.htm)

Ladewig
14th January 2006, 08:12 PM
Ummm that would be the 'jealous god?'
The lovng god?
The angry god?
The compassionate god?
The vengeful god?
The seemingly bipolar god?
This is a plus for Jesus how exactly?


Don't get me wrong. If you had posted this thread in the humor forum instead of the religion forum, I'd have gone along with it and pointed out that neither of them were raised by their father (each of whom also had super powers) and that both of them were so concerned with saving people that they could be reasonably diagnosed as having messiah complexes.

But here in the religion forum, there is a big difference between the two.

As for your questions, I would say yes to the first six questions (there is overwhelming evidence for each of those characteristics in the O.T.). As for the last, having God be a jerk does not diminish Jesus's role as messenger/Savior/sacrifical lamb. Those who follow Christianity believe he had the credentials to describe moral prescriptives in a way that no other human, or superhuman, could.

Pauliesonne
14th January 2006, 10:56 PM
TRUTH, JUSTICE AND THE AMERICAN WAY

need I say anymore...

David Swidler
15th January 2006, 12:39 AM
Hmm. Didn't know Jesus was American.

Oh, he wasn't?

Score one for Superman, then.

Ausmerican
15th January 2006, 06:25 AM
ummm technically I think for most of his life Superman was an illegal immigrant.

Riddick
15th January 2006, 09:16 AM
I have a boss at work who tends to be an over achiever and behaves as if he's superman. And yet he can't quite understand why people won't get with the program, and resorts to browbeating and nitpicking to get his point across.
hrm, sorry to hear this. it's best to mock him incessantly and enjoy the resulting laffter.

Spidey13
15th January 2006, 01:11 PM
OK, some guy pulls out a gun and shoots me. WWSD? Stand there and let the bullet bounce off his chest. Hmm. Don't think I'll be trying that soon. ;)

Skeptical Greg
15th January 2006, 02:36 PM
Hey Jesus was a dick to trees lets not forget. Oh and pigs, JC was a dick to pigs. Not to forget little old bleeding ladies who weren't Jewish...

I know, he healed her after all, but not until she pointed out he was being a dick..

Ausmerican
15th January 2006, 04:14 PM
OK, some guy pulls out a gun and shoots me. WWSD? Stand there and let the bullet bounce off his chest. Hmm. Don't think I'll be trying that soon. ;)
Given the whole 'knowing I'm gonna die but hanging around to allow myself to be passively crucified' do you think Jesus has any better track record in this respect?

brettDbass
16th January 2006, 10:04 AM
What Would Satan Do?
Oh, nevermind.
Yes, I share in your disappointment.

Beerina
17th January 2006, 08:09 AM
I have a boss at work who tends to be an over achiever and behaves as if he's superman. And yet he can't quite understand why people won't get with the program, and resorts to browbeating and nitpicking to get his point across.


I hate working at Applebee's, too.

Ossai
18th January 2006, 06:46 AM
Ausmerican
ummm technically I think for most of his life Superman was an illegal immigrant. Nope Superman is an American. His birthing capsule didn’t open till it landed. It landed in Kansas, therefore Kal El was born in Kansas.

Hey at least some people use Superman’s other names. Not like that pissy Immanuel

Ossai