Kolodzey case on Remote Viewer blog

[blutoski]

re url: dubya-dubya-dubya.remoteviewer.nu/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=1970&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0


Site claims that JREF rejected application from Kolodzey out of hand.

url: dubya-dubya-dubya.alternativescience.com/james-randi-letter.jpg

Is there a more complete record of this exchange to refute their version?

[jimtron]

Here is the URL (http://www.remoteviewer.nu/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=%201970&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0).

And this is at the top of their home page right now:Human eyes possess destructive power of laser
"Director of the Wave Information Technologies Institute, Vladimir Hokkanen, says that a glance can be really murderous or at least health-destructive. Indeed, numerous experiments proved that the human glance is a source of a strong biological impulse. Eyes emit emanation of high frequency and thus can affect other people. This explains why many of us can sense an intent look of a person following us."

So this seems like a reliable source.

[drfrank]

The letter has already been dealt with before (after doing a bit of a search) on this thread (http://206.225.95.123/forumlive/showthread.php?t=5847&highlight=kolodzey).

It looks odd, and was thought to be a fake by several people (and I can see why), but Randi himself confirmed the authenticity of it:

This is Randi. Please, this matter of living-without-eating is just such nonsense, that I find it hard to believe it's earned such a large amount of attention. That letter is quite real, not faked, I meant it and I still mean it.

Why should I spin my wheels feeding the ego of such a person? A test of his silly claim would occupy much more of my time than I'm willing to invest, and it would only feed the arsenal of those who love to accuse us of investigating only the easy cases. As soon as that test would be completed, another similar one would pop up, and we'd be off again -- "You tested him, why won't you test me?"

Many years ago, we tested a chap in San Francisco who'd made the same claim. We camped outside the Holiday Inn where we'd placed him, and at about 2 in the morning, he left for the local all-night MacDonald's and retuned with a huge bag of cheeseburgers. He said he only intended to inhale them, not eat them. Now, that makes him look silly, of course, but IT ALSO MAKES US LOOK SILLY, for having organized a test in the first place!

Cloud-busting and living-without-eating are off the JREF list, because they're just so damn silly and juvenile.

So yes, Randi thought the claim was so ridiculous that he did dismiss it in that fashion, which is fair enough since the only proper test would be to starve the idiot to death.

[ChristineR]

I've always thought that Randi could have made his position clear: there's no simple way to test such a thing as it would require 24 hour guards on shift for weeks and weeks, you can live for a long time without food, a million dollars is a major incentive to make yourself sick for 30, 60, 90 days, and the claiment is being encouraged to harm himself.

"Dude, we're taking you to the hospital."
"No, no! I just need more sun!"

It's a lose/lose situation for everyone. If the testers force him to go to the hospital, he says the test was prematurely terminated. If the testers don't force him to the hospital, he dies and everyone is miserable and the JREF gets sued.

So if Randi is reading this, I'd encourage him to phrase his position differently next time he gets one of these claims, but he sure as hell shouldn't let anyone be tested for this.

[blutoski]

The letter has already been dealt with before (after doing a bit of a search) on this thread (http://206.225.95.123/forumlive/showthread.php?t=5847&highlight=kolodzey).

It looks odd, and was thought to be a fake by several people (and I can see why), but Randi himself confirmed the authenticity of it:

So yes, Randi thought the claim was so ridiculous that he did dismiss it in that fashion, which is fair enough since the only proper test would be to starve the idiot to death.


Thanks for your help.

[drfrank]

Thanks for your help.
No problem :)