Get Your Checkbook Ready!

[PatrickJLillis]

My name is Patrick J. Lillis and I live in Los Angeles California and you have met your match at long last whatever dude you better get ready to go down in flames hope you actually have that milion if not there will be lawsuits and you will have to take your site off of the air!!!
I have PROOF which is axiomatic in its verifiability on the INNERANCY of Biorhythms and is based on THIRTY PLUS YEARS OF MY ***PERSONAL*** OBSERVATIONS!!!
Biorhythms are the most important detrminant of history. There ha snever been anything like them to know when you are storng, when you are weak and when you should just stay the hell in bed! You cannot deny this though I'm pretty sure you will as your cowardice and "rules" are legendary! But there is a twist with me- I have an undergrad degree in PHILOSOPHY and a half a masters from Northern Illinois University int he same subject whatever I know my philosophy from Descartes to Marcuse baby an d all points in ebtween you usualy go after a "rube" and then destroy him with your arrogance and you guys think this proves something because you are denunciators of truth and just make fun of people whatever!!!
I however am educated. If you try any tricks, lawsuits will fly at you like a herd of bats loosed from a bat cave! A withering fusulade of lawsuits and lawyers DOING MY BIDDING will bankrupt you- have you ever heard of a class action lawsuit, you loosers??? You will if you try to :
A) Ignore this direct challenge to your legitimacny or
B) Try not to pay up and say "Oh it was a trick he used" or "ex post facto reasoning" or whatever else lies you tyrants of reason use on men of metaphysical good will!!!
C) Refuse to pay up.
I have a lawyer allready dude and you better beleive he's chomping at the bits to get 15% of one million smackeroos. Wait till you see my evidence! The power of Biorhythms is such that you will all give up your "scepticism" and maybe think like a RATIONAL being for once in you lives without the sarcasm scorn enmity and belligurency all of you have because you weren't picked for the baseball team when you were kids ha ha LOOSERS LEARN YOUNG AND BECOME SCEPTICS!!!
The gauntlet is laid down baby. Patrick J. Lillis will soon be rich and you will soon be off to Pallokaville on the looser express. No pity from me! Like Reagan said "on the ashcan of history" and Biorhytms will get the RESPECT it finally deserves!
SIGNED Patrick J. Lillis, Los Angeles California AMERICAN!

[AnotherSillyAlias]

Hmm.. that's interesting. An undergraduate degree and half a masters and you appear to have stopped learning English at about grade school level. Fascinating.

I do so love trolls.

[Hitch]

My name is Patrick J. Lillis and I live in Los Angeles California and you have met your match at long last whatever dude you better get ready to go down in flames hope you actually have that milion if not there will be lawsuits and you will have to take your site off of the air!!!
I have PROOF which is axiomatic in its verifiability on the INNERANCY of Biorhythms and is based on THIRTY PLUS YEARS OF MY ***PERSONAL*** OBSERVATIONS!!!
Biorhythms are the most important detrminant of history. There ha snever been anything like them to know when you are storng, when you are weak and when you should just stay the hell in bed! You cannot deny this though I'm pretty sure you will as your cowardice and "rules" are legendary! But there is a twist with me- I have an undergrad degree in PHILOSOPHY and a half a masters from Northern Illinois University int he same subject whatever I know my philosophy from Descartes to Marcuse baby an d all points in ebtween you usualy go after a "rube" and then destroy him with your arrogance and you guys think this proves something because you are denunciators of truth and just make fun of people whatever!!!
I however am educated. If you try any tricks, lawsuits will fly at you like a herd of bats loosed from a bat cave! A withering fusulade of lawsuits and lawyers DOING MY BIDDING will bankrupt you- have you ever heard of a class action lawsuit, you loosers??? You will if you try to :
A) Ignore this direct challenge to your legitimacny or
B) Try not to pay up and say "Oh it was a trick he used" or "ex post facto reasoning" or whatever else lies you tyrants of reason use on men of metaphysical good will!!!
C) Refuse to pay up.
I have a lawyer allready dude and you better beleive he's chomping at the bits to get 15% of one million smackeroos. Wait till you see my evidence! The power of Biorhythms is such that you will all give up your "scepticism" and maybe think like a RATIONAL being for once in you lives without the sarcasm scorn enmity and belligurency all of you have because you weren't picked for the baseball team when you were kids ha ha LOOSERS LEARN YOUNG AND BECOME SCEPTICS!!!
The gauntlet is laid down baby. Patrick J. Lillis will soon be rich and you will soon be off to Pallokaville on the looser express. No pity from me! Like Reagan said "on the ashcan of history" and Biorhytms will get the RESPECT it finally deserves!
SIGNED Patrick J. Lillis, Los Angeles California AMERICAN!
Do you have a claim?

PS: Anyone think he'll get past the first email with KRAMER?

[PatrickJLillis]

Once again you resort to pure enmity. Why do you do this oh that's right your "rational" so that means you can make nasty comments about people and that is your version of a argument. This is puerile! You call me a troll like I live under a bridge but YOU live under a dark cloud of "reason" which rains on your abiltiuy to be open minded to the TRUTHS of SCIENTIFIC ENQUIRY!
I am a metaphysician AND a practicing scientific method researcher on Biorhythms. You can't measure them like "Chi" but they exist all the same oh that's right for 5,000 years the Chinese have just made up their cures is that what you guys think? Ever heard of ACCUPUNCTURE dude???
It works and so does Biorhythms! I have EVIDENCE! Reams of it! To wit:
* John F. Kennedy, INTELLECTUAL CRITICAL on 11/23/63 and refused to have the bubble put on Pres. limo- the result? ASSASINITED! Future history of America thrown into entropy by refusing to listen to your Biorhythms!
* Muhammad Ali PHYSICAL CRITICAL in first Frazier fight knocked out lost the title oh well I suppose it was just "karma" or what would you sceptics say huh? "Oooh, a mere coincidence." THERE ARE NO COINCIDENCES WITH BIORHYTMS YOU NAZIS!!!
More evidence to come and remmeber if you wimp out I will SUE YOU INTO BANKRUPTCY! You have bullied the paranormal community long enough! Like thugs in Mussolini's time you see a challenge and start breaking heads! You act like TERRORISTS and I for one have had it and CLASS ACTION LAWSUITS WILL BE THE RESULT IF YOU SCREW ME OVER!
PATRICK J. LILLIS, BIORHYTHM EXPERT, SOON TO BE MILLIONAIRE!

[logical muse]

... - have you ever heard of a class action lawsuit, you loosers???
... LOOSERS LEARN YOUNG AND BECOME SCEPTICS!!!
... you will soon be off to Pallokaville on the looser express.

... SIGNED Patrick J. Lillis, Los Angeles California AMERICAN!
I take it the AMERICAN spelling of loser is looser?

Maybe it's an emphasis thing?

Loooser...

Looooooooooser...

Looooooooooooooooooooooooooooser!

[Complexity]

Kramer will eat him for lunch.

A nice, big bowl of woo-soup, all chunky and steamy and full of bits from all of the woo food groups.

The pity is, this forty-year-old fool won't know it.

But, we will...

[LostAngeles]

Once again you resort to pure enmity. Why do you do this oh that's right your "rational" so that means you can make nasty comments about people and that is your version of a argument. This is puerile! You call me a troll like I live under a bridge but YOU live under a dark cloud of "reason" which rains on your abiltiuy to be open minded to the TRUTHS of SCIENTIFIC ENQUIRY!
I am a metaphysician AND a practicing scientific method researcher on Biorhythms. You can't measure them like "Chi" but they exist all the same oh that's right for 5,000 years the Chinese have just made up their cures is that what you guys think? Ever heard of ACCUPUNCTURE dude???
It works and so does Biorhythms! I have EVIDENCE! Reams of it! To wit:
* John F. Kennedy, INTELLECTUAL CRITICAL on 11/23/63 and refused to have the bubble put on Pres. limo- the result? ASSASINITED! Future history of America thrown into entropy by refusing to listen to your Biorhythms!
* Muhammad Ali PHYSICAL CRITICAL in first Frazier fight knocked out lost the title oh well I suppose it was just "karma" or what would you sceptics say huh? "Oooh, a mere coincidence." THERE ARE NO COINCIDENCES WITH BIORHYTMS YOU NAZIS!!!
More evidence to come and remmeber if you wimp out I will SUE YOU INTO BANKRUPTCY! You have bullied the paranormal community long enough! Like thugs in Mussolini's time you see a challenge and start breaking heads! You act like TERRORISTS and I for one have had it and CLASS ACTION LAWSUITS WILL BE THE RESULT IF YOU SCREW ME OVER!
PATRICK J. LILLIS, BIORHYTHM EXPERT, SOON TO BE MILLIONAIRE!

So not only do we have a Godwinning here, but he follows the old American stereotype of threatening to sue.

Have you submitted a notarized application with a clear claim and how to test it? You're a bit hard to take seriously until then.

[AnotherSillyAlias]

It's pretty obvious that the guy is either a troll, (and not a very bright one at that), or he is a couple short of a six pack. How many times have you seen the same thing. The bad spelling, the bizarre or non existent punctuation, excessive use of CAPS and he even managed to get in a Nazi reference early on. Probably somebody off his meds.

[Hitch]

I take it the AMERICAN spelling of loser is looser?

Maybe it's an emphasis thing?

Loooser...

Looooooooooser...

Looooooooooooooooooooooooooooser!
You're starting to sound like Jim Carey, and that's never good. (Not even when you ARE Jim Carey.)

[ReFLeX]

I am a metaphysician AND a practicing scientific method researcher on Biorhythms. You can't measure them like "Chi" but they exist all the same oh that's right for 5,000 years the Chinese have just made up their cures is that what you guys think?If you can't detect these biorhythms as well as "qi" then good luck. After 5,000 years, no one has been able to show "qi" exists.

[Hitch]

Looking at his posts, biorhythms seem to do a pretty good job of predicting the past. If he can do that with the future, he might have a claim. And the million dollar challenge might be small change compared to the Super Bowl next week.

[Ducky]

This guy is the most important person in all history. He will show us the way. He has 30 years of bullsh*t to reconcile.

Ok, how about you stop trolling now buddy. You've had your laugh with the other two thirteen year olds you invited on your sleepover. Go back to watching your father's porn on the computer and ignoring your mom tell you it's bedtime.

Someone with as much college education as you claim to have would not have the grammar, structure, and spelling of a 6th grader. Did you get bored in class because the cool pretty girl won't "go" with you?

Run along.

[PatrickJLillis]

You don't even want to know. You claim you arew for scientific inquiry you don't even know what it is. You are a bully and a jerk. You use ad hominems because you know you will lose.

Like I said though pal there WILL be lawsuits I will sue and the courts will order ALL informastion to be turned over to my law team and you will be a party to the suit because you CONSPIRE with Randi to defraud.
This is serious as a heart attack bub and we will soon see how smart you are. Science will win in the end!

[ReFLeX]

You are a bully and a jerk. You use ad hominems because you know you will lose.Oh. So why do you use them?

[Ducky]

Oh. So why do you use them?


I find it ironic he uses an adhom and then bags on me for using them in the first two sentences.

Perhaps someone should explain to this person what extortion and blackmail are. Threatening someone with legal action unless they pay you is not well advised.


Show us this evidence you claim to have, or shut the hell up.

[Loon]

Mr. Lillis, I'm not quite clear on your claim. Am I correct that you say buorythms are correct and accurate?

As the JREF challenge requires a test, have you thought at all about how we can test this? My own suggestion would be take the biorythms of 100 people and find out what happens to them on dates shown as CRITICAL.

Also, posting to the forum does not contitute an application for the challenge. You'll need to submit a signed and notarized application form. If you have need or further guidance, there is a FAQ on the site.

[benji]

As the JREF challenge requires a test, have you thought at all about how we can test this? My own suggestion would be take the biorythms of 100 people and find out what happens to them on dates shown as CRITICAL.


By doing that, you would make almost the same mistake as Mr. Lillis. You are completely missing the type II errors, if you don't observe the dates that shouldn't be critical (you also would have to define a priori what counts as a "critical event", but let's leave that tiny little problem aside for now)

To sum it up (simplified):

"Critical date" & "critical event": Correct
"Critical date" & "no critical event": Error type I
"No Critical date" & "No critical event": Correct
"No Critical date" & "critical event": Error type II

Depending on what constitutes a "critical event" (from tripping over your shoelaces to a plane crash), error type I or type II will be more frequent. Of course NONE of them occurs if you just handpick your dates and events from the past like Mr. Lillis does...

[The_Fire]

In other words: There's a 50% chance of getting it right......Or my math is off.....

[Mendeli]

Me, NERD CRITICAL when arriving at my workplace, turned on my computer and yawned oh well I suppose it was just "karma" or what would you sceptics say huh? "Oooh, a mere coincidence." THERE ARE NO COINCIDENCES WITH BIORHYTMS YOU NAZIS!!!

[Kiless]

You don't even want to know. You claim you arew for scientific inquiry you don't even know what it is. You are a bully and a jerk. You use ad hominems because you know you will lose.

Like I said though pal there WILL be lawsuits I will sue and the courts will order ALL informastion to be turned over to my law team and you will be a party to the suit because you CONSPIRE with Randi to defraud.
This is serious as a heart attack bub and we will soon see how smart you are. Science will win in the end!

Hello.

1) This is a forum board and has nothing to do with the challenge, although sometimes people like to discuss cases where challenges have been proposed.
2) I suggest politely that you go here: http://www.randi.org/research/faq.html
especially here: http://www.randi.org/research/challenge.html

and calm down before speaking in such a manner to people who don't actually have anything to do with the challenge beyond being observers of applications like the ones here: http://forums.randi.org/forumdisplay.php?f=43

Thank you.

[Kiless]

Me, NERD CRITICAL when arriving at my workplace, turned on my computer and yawned oh well I suppose it was just "karma" or what would you sceptics say huh? "Oooh, a mere coincidence." THERE ARE NO COINCIDENCES WITH BIORHYTMS YOU NAZIS!!!

? Okay, I'd probably suggest that this wasn't helping if I could understand what it meant.... :boggled:

[rjh01]

I wonder if this is the same person? http://www.seattleweekly.com/news/0418/040505_news_letters.php
I refuse to quote from it as it contains offensive language.

[CheeseDude]

I am a metaphysician AND a practicing scientific method researcher on Biorhythms. You can't measure them like "Chi" but they exist all the same

It works and so does Biorhythms! I have EVIDENCE! Reams of it!

If you can't measure them, how do you know they exist? Also, there is no need to make threats of law suits and try to impress people with your credentials. All we want to know is what can you do, under what conditions, and with what degree of accuracy? That shouldn't be too difficult for an practicing scientific method researcher to handle. By the way, what is half a degree? Is that like being half pregnant or half drunk?:bs:

[benji]

In other words: There's a 50% chance of getting it right......Or my math is off.....

Your math is off ;)

Actually, the probability depends on the kind of "critical events" you try to predict. The base-probabilities of the four possible configurations are usually not equal (a critical event every second day would mean the events can't be THAT critical ... )

[LostAngeles]

I wonder if this is the same person? http://www.seattleweekly.com/news/0418/040505_news_letters.php
I refuse to quote from it as it contains offensive language.

Holy crap. I think he's asked me for change a few times.

[Mendeli]

? Okay, I'd probably suggest that this wasn't helping if I could understand what it meant.... :boggled:

intention was to jokingly mimic and critisize the "applicant", by just slightly changing this: Muhammad Ali PHYSICAL CRITICAL in first Frazier fight knocked out lost the title oh well I suppose it was just "karma" or what would you sceptics say huh? "Oooh, a mere coincidence." THERE ARE NO COINCIDENCES WITH BIORHYTMS YOU NAZIS!!!

The hidden agenda was to question why Muhammad Alis historical defeat at any particular time would be any more proof of Biorhytms than any routine task I, or anyone else would do today.

Sorry if it was too unclear :)

edit: While repeating the caps nazis line comment for effect seemed like a good idea initially, I kind of regret it now... It seems satire isn't an easy art, so I'll hold it back for a while.

[CheeseDude]

I wonder if this is the same person?

Great work! This is one angry fundie. Although, he spelled the word "letter" in such a cool way, I think he is redefining the English language - "leytyer." I kid you not. What college did he say he went to again?
:eye-poppi

[Loon]

By doing that, you would make almost the same mistake as Mr. Lillis.

Good point. Howsabout following those 100 people over a year (or whatever timespan) and seeing when "CRITICAL" things happen, then checking to see how those correlate to biorhythms?

[JLam]

OH MY GOD! There's a crazy person in Los Angeles!!!

What is the world coming to?

The next thing you know, there will be black basketball players in the NBA!

[Mendeli]

For me, it's impossible to accept that any event can be seen as critical in the universe. For starters, any event happening in earth would be insignificant.

With regards to biorhytms though, I believe its suggested that critical events would be those important to the particular person. Now how do we define that? If I happened to kill a person, would that be critical event in my life?

If it happened by placing a banana shell in the ground and the person slipping and tripping over... what would constitute the actual critical event for me? Placing down the banana shell? drinking coffee at cafe while the person slips? After all, These could be two separate days even...

[Harlequin]

What college did he say he went to again?
He's pretty harsh, considering he seems to now claim that he has some sort of philosophy degree from "one of those left wing colleges".

More likely, he has a bunch of part-time studies courses from three different colleges that only added up to a degree in philosophy from some bizarre unknown school, plus he signed up for an online masters...

Oh, I'm sure this will goad him into claiming he went to MIT, which we're bound to believe.

[chasing23]

You don't even want to know. You claim you arew for scientific inquiry you don't even know what it is. You are a bully and a jerk. You use ad hominems because you know you will lose.

Like I said though pal there WILL be lawsuits I will sue and the courts will order ALL informastion to be turned over to my law team and you will be a party to the suit because you CONSPIRE with Randi to defraud.
This is serious as a heart attack bub and we will soon see how smart you are. Science will win in the end!

First of please take the time to proof your posts before you hit submit. There are some things that you are letting slip by that really make you look like the hack that you appear to be.

By making the comments that you are making you just become a troll that no one is going to take seriously unless you come forth with some proof. Your stuff sounds all nice. Do you have numbers that can be duplicated?

I don't see why you throw around so many harsh words when these are the people that if you are not full of BS would be a great verification and a great reward.

I think that you are also taking the turn down the UNAMERICAN path of harassment. We have laws against that here so please tread lightly especially as you cast around threats. I think it sounds like you might be a communist sir.

[ChristineR]

There is a simple test for biorythms. Come up with a formula that predicts what days people are most likely to die. Ideally, you give each day a numerical score. Find a bunch of dead people, especially people who had bad luck. Count the number that died on bad days, compare to the number who died on good days, see if there is a correlation.

Did I mention that this has already been done? Of course Mr. Lillis may have a superior formula for calculating the biorythms, and this one will show a correlation greater than zero....

Edited to say: whoops, too early in the morning. A correlation of zero would mean he has a working formula but he's actually 180 degrees off.

[7th sextile]

Looking at his posts, biorhythms seem to do a pretty good job of predicting the past. If he can do that with the future, he might have a claim. And the million dollar challenge might be small change compared to the Super Bowl next week.

pretty good,but not real good-JFK,for example was assassinated on
11/22/63 (..please-not the HERD of BATS !!)

[Corpse Cruncher]

Biorythms? Just what are they when they are at home?

[Ririon]

pretty good,but not real good-JFK,for example was assassinated on
11/22/63 (..please-not the HERD of BATS !!)
That could be a spelling/dyslexia thing. I wouldn't judge him on that. Everything else in his posts, however...

[brodski]

pretty good,but not real good-JFK,for example was assassinated on
11/22/63 (..please-not the HERD of BATS !!)
Thats just what THEY want you to think... ;)

[TimmyBerry]

Seems that he ran away. How unfortunate.

[StoatBringer]

PatrickJLillis, if you don't calm down then they will simply reject your claim without consideration. Have you even read the challenge rules?

Oh, and a "herd" of bats?

[StoatBringer]

You can't measure them like "Chi"

Heck, if you can measure Chi that would win you the million as well. :)

[alfaniner]

Can I say it, please????


"Apply or go away."

[ChristineR]

Biorhythmers are like Horoscopers--they cheat the days a little. 11/22/63 is only one day off. sin(0) = 0. sin(2*pi/31) = .003. The implication is that If JFK had lived he would have done something .003 stupider the next day.

(I can't actually remember how many days are in the intellectual cycle, but it hardly matters since people can fudge and adjust in so many ways.)

Did I mention I'm a Virgo on the cusp of Leo? This explains why so many people don't guess I'm a Virgo.:cool:

[Meffy]

Holy crap. I think he's asked me for change a few times.

Aw, give the poor guy a break -- he was at a FINANCIAL-COGNITIVE-ORTHOGRAPHIC TRIPLE MINIMUM. Sounds difficult but the latter two curves are pegged at their low points so it's probably commoner than one would expect.

It'd be amusing to see what he thinks a "class action lawsuit" is, what he imagines his legal standing to be, and what bus-stop poster he got the lawyer's phone number from. =9_9=

[Huh-What?]

Seems that he ran away. How unfortunate.

His mom caught him using her computer again

[brodski]

His mom caught him using her computer again
no, it seems that Darat "caught" him http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=51283

[StoatBringer]

Did I mention I'm a Virgo on the cusp of Leo? This explains why so many people don't guess I'm a Virgo.:cool:

Well, we Scorpios don't believe in all that nonsense.
It's bad luck to be superstitious.

[StoatBringer]

no, it seems that Darat "caught" him http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=51283

:jaw-dropp I guess now he'll have no choice but to release his herd of lawyer-bats and bring the JREF to its knees.

[brodski]

:jaw-dropp I guess now he'll have no choice but to release his herd of lawyer-bats and bring the JREF to its knees.
why does the pharse "fly my preitties, fly!", spring to mind? ;)

[Meffy]

Oh, NOES! Poor Randi, just look what those winged lawyers have done to him now.

http://www.freewebtown.com/meffy/stuffs/winged_monkeys_cowardly_lion.jpg

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0002U6JRQ.01-A3CU9PWKX4XOBY._SCMZZZZZZZ_.gif

[edit] Heh, brodski was thinking the same thing while I was finding just the right image.

[brodski]

Oh, NOES! Poor Randi, just look what those winged lawyers have done to him now.

http://www.freewebtown.com/meffy/stuffs/winged_monkeys_cowardly_lion.jpg

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0002U6JRQ.01-A3CU9PWKX4XOBY._SCMZZZZZZZ_.gif

[edit] Heh, brodski was thinking the same thing while I was finding just the right image.
actually, I analysed your bio-rhythms, and concluded that you would post that picture, so I decided to pre-emptively plagiarise you. ;)I'll take the million in cash please.

[eri]

Darat takes away all of our toys. And I didn't even get to play with this one. :D

[Meffy]

I decided to pre-emptively plagiarise you. ;)I'll take the million in cash please.

Oh, you're good -- but you'll need that million to defend yourself against my universally feared murmuration of barrister starlings! Plagiarism, indeed. I'll have you know I have seven hundred twenty undergraduate degrees -- yes, I've been around a time or two! -- and half a Hostess Twinkie that I couldn't quite finish. I can spell better than certain other threat-wielding, checkbook-demanding poseurs, I know ALL the words to the Beverly Hillbillies theme song (including the supposedly lost "Louie Louie" tribute verse), and I'm springtime fresh even when the pressure's on.

So nyah. =^_^=

[Aepervius]

This is the same PatrickJlillys which seems to troll around and never come again :
google (http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=PatrickJLillis&btnG=Google-Suche&meta=)

or even this one :

Google again (http://www.google.de/search?q=Patrick+J+Lillis&btnG=Suche&hl=de)

Although I can't reconciliate the fundy-fundementalist rant, with the the gay-love book list. Taht is probably two different men.

Anyway my best advice : ignore him. If not feed will go away, if he did not already.

[drfrank]

Heck, if you can measure Chi that would win you the million as well. :)

I have a fantastic Chi measuring device - it's a piece of paper with "No Chi Detected" written on it ;)

Cough up, Randi! lol

[Basilio]

At first I thought that the guy might be using a alias, since a search brings up the name of a prominant (sp) doctor in the Denver area (admittedly, Longmont). But, upon further inspection, there is a Patrick Lillis in a southern suburb of LA. How he found our happy little forum is a mystery!

[lethe33]

I have a lawyer allready dude and you better beleive he's chomping at the bits to get 15% of one million smackeroos.

If he has found a lawyer willing to take a case on contingency for only 15%, I believe that would qualify for the prize.

[brodski]

Oh, you're good -- but you'll need that million to defend yourself against my universally feared murmuration of barrister starlings! Plagiarism, indeed. I'll have you know I have seven hundred twenty undergraduate degrees -- yes, I've been around a time or two! -- and half a Hostess Twinkie that I couldn't quite finish. I can spell better than certain other threat-wielding, checkbook-demanding poseurs, I know ALL the words to the Beverly Hillbillies theme song (including the supposedly lost "Louie Louie" tribute verse), and I'm springtime fresh even when the pressure's on.

So nyah. =^_^=

yeah BUT i can RanDomly CAPITALIZZE words,and I tresnd your simplistic "rules" of spelling and grammerising.

I win! YOU NAZZIs

Now fear my whoop of solictor-monkeys!

[Meffy]

Hm... looks as if we're pretty evenly matched. So let's have the monkeys and the starlings duke it out on our behalf, and take a bye.

[Mendeli]

Well, now that the troll is gone, we may safely feed. I think Brownies would be a nice and tasty approach!

INGREDIENTS:

* 1/2 cup butter, melted
* 1 cup white sugar
* 2 eggs
* 1/2 cup self-rising flour
* 1/3 cup unsweetened cocoa powder
* 1/4 teaspoon salt
* 1 teaspoon vanilla extract
* 1/2 cup chopped walnuts (optional)

DIRECTIONS:

1. Preheat oven to 350 degrees F (175 degrees C). Grease and flour an 8x8 or 9x9 inch baking pan.
2. In a medium bowl, beat together the butter and sugar. Add eggs, and mix well. Combine the flour, cocoa and salt; stir into the sugar mixture. Mix in the vanilla and stir in walnuts if desired. Spread evenly into the prepared pan.
3. Bake for 25 to 30 minutes in the preheated oven, or until edges are firm. Cool before cutting into squares.

Enjoy!

[MRC_Hans]

If he has found a lawyer willing to take a case on contingency for only 15%, I believe that would qualify for the prize.Excellent point!
:dl:

Welcome to the forums!

Is strong, the force with this one.

Hans

[Beleth]

If you value your sanity and/or your job, do not under any circumstances google "Patrick J. Lillis".

[Flange Desire]

Now fear my whoop of solictor-monkeys!

No fear!
You should quiver at the thought of my grunt of lawyer-macaques.

[mrfreeze]

So when are you going to submit an official application?

[Admiral]

After looking at the things google picked up, particularly the weird mix of the fundamentalist rants and gay book lists, I kinda think that the real story is that some guy who hates Patrick Lillis is posting various things under his name. (Google the "Ruthless Reviews" about him.) One thing is for sure- he's got a twisted story.

[Genesius]

If you value your sanity and/or your job, do not under any circumstances google "Patrick J. Lillis".

Oh my freakin' Gunderscored! I don't think he's the penile plastic surgeon in Colorado, but http://www.seattleweekly.com/news/0418/040505_news_letters.php is fer sure him. Scroll down to "Letter of the Week", folks. Anybody want to take up a collection to get him a lifetime supply of Thorazine?

[LostAngeles]

Uh, guys... He's dead. July 18, 2003

http://www.slate.com/id/2085625/

Finally, sad news from Colonel Bull Kurtz on the passing of the Fray's most notoriously inflammatory poster, a man who elevated hate speech to performance art: "Patrick J Lillis (you knew him as 'Fearless') died when the flamethrower he was repairing exploded late Saturday night in his garage. The police believe he had been trying to make his own napalm with gasoline and Knox gelatin, and a faulty tube connecting the fuel tank to the nozzle failed to hold." While he was a polarizing weedwacker of a voice, Fearless Pat nevertheless gave us such zingers as "**** or get off the Pol Pot." The Colonel notifies the Fray that "Fearless asked in his will that- in lieu of flowers- donations be made to the Eric Rudolph legal defense fund. As well, I would like to ask you posters on the Slate to help with the handling of his animals. Goethe and Blondi - his Bolivian police dogs - need a good, loving, Aryan home. Currently they refuse to eat since they were trained to do so only at Fearless's command, but we'll figure it out. Also, if anyone would like a combat-trained gas detector Canary- Hindenburg- I'd like to find him a home as well." Chango pays tribute to FPL in this week's Black Hole Awards. Though WVMicko expresses grief, he's bemused by Pat's WMD: "Knox gelatin? Any idiot knows that you make homemade napalm with Ivory soap. 99 44/100% pure!" WV will be fielding questions on such matters in Home Fires Fray…KA 7:35 a.m.

[eri]

That kinda sounds like a joke obit. Attack dogs? Homeade napalm?

[Hitch]

Uh, guys... He's dead. July 18, 2003

http://www.slate.com/id/2085625/
Posting from beyond the grave? That might be worth $1 million.

[ChristineR]

Maybe there's something we're all missing...like "All your base are belong to us?"

[LostAngeles]

That kinda sounds like a joke obit. Attack dogs? Homeade napalm?

Yeah, but it's also Patrick J. Lillis. :D

[hellaeon]

see, for me, PatrickJLillis dont deserve much in the way of patience from people. Coming on to a forum with guns (keyboards) blazing making all these claims then thinking to advance such bullsh*t he can then threaten us if we dont conform to his f*kin standards of reason. 6 beers short of a sixpack upstairs bloke.

edited: took out what I thought may be too harsh for forum

Cheers

[FortyTwo]

Maybe we can get Donna Demarco, pendulum chiro dowser, to tell us if Patrick J. Lillis is dead or alive?

[Kenny 10 Bellys]

Win a Million? I think he would have to spend it all on anger-management courses and basic english classes. He needs no help in coming up with esoteric abuse though, he's a natural at that.

What the hell was he claiming to do anyway, it's far from clear? he can tell if someone is having a bad day if they're medically ill? If he's alive I fear he needs a check-up from the neck up.

[EHocking]

There is a simple test for biorythms. Come up with a formula that predicts what days people are most likely to die. Ideally, you give each day a numerical score. Find a bunch of dead people, especially people who had bad luck. Count the number that died on bad days, compare to the number who died on good days, see if there is a correlation.

Did I mention that this has already been done? Of course Mr. Lillis may have a superior formula for calculating the biorythms, and this one will show a correlation greater than zero....

Edited to say: whoops, too early in the morning. A correlation of zero would mean he has a working formula but he's actually 180 degrees off. I went woo-bashing this on usenet on sci.skeptic.

Simple task was to collect birth/death dates and compare the person's biorythms. Results:

The rest of the 1900's sample yields:

34% rising from zero
28% descending from a peak
25% desceding from zero
13% rising from a trough

or 62% positive and 38% negative
Upshot being, at the time of death of this large list of people, 62% of them died at the time their biorythms we positive.

It was a simple mathematical process, but a long, drawn out process to get the woo to come around to validating his woo spout... Here's the start of the thread on Google. (http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/browse_frm/thread/de006f2165d66933/e453ea75c2aca2ce?lnk=st&q=biorythms+group%3Asci.skeptic&rnum=5&hl=en#e453ea75c2aca2ce[URL=)

[Mercutio]

PatrickJLillis, if you don't calm down then they will simply reject your claim without consideration. Have you even read the challenge rules?

Oh, and a "herd" of bats?
You never herd of bats?

[I less than three logic]

Only 3 posts and it looks like he’s already banned. That’s quite efficient, is it a record? :D

I haven’t read all the posts yet, just commenting on what I saw on the first post.

[BobW]

You never herd of bats?

"We can't stop here, this is Bat Country!" - Hunter S. Thompson

[timokay]

I kinda like this guy. Please apply Patrick. Please?

[mark.oleary@comcast.net]

Depending on what constitutes a "critical event" (from tripping over your shoelaces to a plane crash), error type I or type II will be more frequent....

Exactly--the problem is that there's no predetermined standard of a CE. They will surely become obvious only in hindsight, which is an old Sylvia Browne trick

[Kiless]

Can I say it, please????


"Apply or go away."

I'm starting to think I should suggest the following in our sigs, so everyone who regularly contributes to the 'Million Dollar Challenge' threads can just go - 'check the sig!' and save typing the same bloomin' thing for some of the sillier contributors:

Want to try for the million challenge? Check out JREF forum member Beleth's FAQ (http://www.randi.org/research/faq.html)! And THEN apply here (http://www.randi.org/research/challenge.html)! http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/8366/cheerleader2vh.gif

Nice, colourful, cheerful, gets the point across and might save some time.

[Palimpsest]

I wonder if this is the same person? http://www.seattleweekly.com/news/0418/040505_news_letters.php
I refuse to quote from it as it contains offensive language.

And yet in that letter, he manages to spell "loser" correctly.

[Beleth]

I'm starting to think I should suggest the following in our sigs, so everyone who regularly contributes to the 'Million Dollar Challenge' threads can just go - 'check the sig!' and save typing the same bloomin' thing for some of the sillier contributors:

Want to try for the million challenge? Check out JREF forum member Beleth's FAQ (http://www.randi.org/research/faq.html)! And THEN apply here (http://www.randi.org/research/challenge.html)! http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/8366/cheerleader2vh.gif

Nice, colourful, cheerful, gets the point across and might save some time. I think that's a great idea!
But, modesty forbids me from doing so.

[chipotle]

It looks like there is someone who posts offensive messages using his name. Or maybe not. Just Google
"by the name of Patrick J Lillis"

WARNING. Language alert.

And more:
http://tedbarlow.blogspot.com/2003_06_01_tedbarlow_archive.html
Ted says:
"""
The real Pat Lillis has written to tell me that he has not written these posts; instead, an ex-friend/stalker named Tim Ready has done so. This person poses as Pat on the internet and writes abusive nonsense. If you see a strange or obscene post or email from Pat Lillis, it is probably coming from the stalker.
"""

[alfaniner]

You never herd of bats?

No, only herd of cows...

(cmon, you saw that one coming from miles away!!)

[Hitch]

Did somebody say bat?

[LostAngeles]

Did somebody say bat?

I still think that's a really nice bat picture.