Tilley Update

[Kess]

Just thought I'd resurrect this thread...

I thought Tilley had been exposed as a conman and would've faded away, but I've just been to his website (http://www.tilleyfoundation.com) and was surprised to see he's still going strong.

He is now working on an electric bike (to add to the cars, boat, golf buggy - does he ever finish a project?) and has just had an annual meeting of stockholders where, apparently, "consensus at the conclusion of the meeting was that there was general satisfaction with respect to status of all relevant issues".

Does anyone know what's going on? Did anyone see that TV expose about Tilley - was it convincing or not?

[Kess]

Sorry - I meant to tag this message onto the end of the old thread about Tilley and his electric vehicles (http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7904) but accidentally created a new thread instead.

Must learn to use this Internet thing properly...

[arcticpenguin]

There's a report of some sort of judicial development on the Greater Things web site: http://www.greaterthings.com/News/Tilley/discussion/index.html

http://www.greaterthings.com/News/Tilley/fraud/court_May03/index.html

Free energy claimant, Carl Tilley and the Tilley Foundation are bragging about a major court victory in which they say whistleblower Walter Webb "recanted all his prior allegations against Mr. Tilley."
...
With today's court statement of retraction by Webb, stated under oath, the Tilley foundation is portraying themselves as having been the victims of unfounded libel.


As I recall, all the whistleblower stuff was about investment practices, and of course there is still absolutely zero evidence that Tilley's perpetual motion device works.

[chipotle]

The Tennessee Department of Commerce and Insurance Securities Division got the Tennesse Bureau of Investigations to search Tilley's house and shop. A lot of stuff was siezed, but not Carl. There is no definate word yet on what charge they are investigating, but the warrant is to be made public in 5 days. Sterling has been updating his artlcle.

http://www.greaterthings.com/News/Tilley/fraud/raid/index.html

[SteveW]

How ironic is that? Tilley was the name of the dead wife (turns out to be dog) that Lucy contacts when she and Ethel have a seance.

[arcticpenguin]

http://www.greaterthings.com/News/Tilley/fraud/raid/Response/index.html

Carl Tilley and Doug Littlefield give statements about the law enforcement raid of their workshop. They are still spewing BS. Get a load of this from Tilley: http://escribe.com/science/keelynet/m14509.html

> > If they intend to test it they need more parts as it takes two for each
car....the boat has no motor, the car needs one more charging unit, the
truck needs two charging units and the building device needs the inverter,
control center, battery bank and charge controller.

Uh-huh. His device allegedly produces more power than it burns, and it takes two of them?

[chipotle]

Originally posted by arcticpenguin
Uh-huh. His device allegedly produces more power than it burns, and it takes two of them?

Don't be silly. Of course it takes two. Everybody knows that you can't use a power amplifier type I PMM to charge its own battery or else it would cause an immediate end to the universe. That's why Newman, Lee, Bearden, Naudin, et al don't ever show machines that are not plugged in. Tilley's brilliant inovation was to have one PMM charge a second one, and the second one charge the battery for the first. Just brilliant work, except that it created an unlikely automitive breakdown density field.

[Kess]

we built another car and ... almost ready for the final test and that will be verified out of state by a well known group of people.
That should be something to look forward to. I wonder who the "well known" group of verifiers might be: a proper team of experienced, independent, unbiased engineers and similar, or just a bunch of other free-energy enthusiasts?

[arcticpenguin]

Originally posted by Kess

That should be something to look forward to. I wonder who the "well known" group of verifiers might be: a proper team of experienced, independent, unbiased engineers and similar, or just a bunch of other free-energy enthusiasts?
Raelians?

[Flo]

Originally posted by arcticpenguin

Raelians?

using $cientology's testing device ...