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The Fool
3rd May 2003, 07:54 PM
Jedi.

I put it to you that your recent pattern of posting is simply spamming of the board.

The constant presence of multiple threads that you post that are all the same. They are either "leftists are to blame for this" and/or "feminists are to blame for this".

I fully understand that you blame leftists and feminists for everything that happens in the world. If you wanted to run a thread proposing this and debating it I would be more than happy to participate.

The constant posting of news items that have no connection with communism or feminist, along with a standard one or two line accusation that communists/feminists are to blame has become increasingly tiresome and, In my opinion has now reached the point of being regarded as spam.

If S&S and Latin can be justifiably required to curtail thier constant spamming on a particular issue then I see no reason why you should not be asked to refrain from bogging this board down with endlessly repeated commie/feminist conspiracy theories.

In no way am I trying to restrict your freedom to suggest that a communist/Feminist conspiracy exists or that it is behind many world events. BUT, do we need thread after thread after thread saying the same thing over and over and over.....

Jedi Knight
3rd May 2003, 08:04 PM
Look, first you guys spammed my threads and now when I post topics such as the one right beneath this one that has 144 replies in it, you say it is "spam" and it has no interest. Well, if it wasn't "interesting", why are dozens of people replying to it?

I think it is because people love my threads and they also love the information I provide.

If people agree or disagree, now is the time to speak up because the censors have arrived.

This thread is my Star of David and I wear it proudly. All the threads I have created are news sources exposing the perversionist left. I don't have a problem chatting about it, but why do you?

JK

Bjorn
3rd May 2003, 08:06 PM
The malenazi totalitarian patriarchal Fool is once again trying to stop the discriminated benighted from expressing his opinions! :mad:

Post the truth on this board, and you'll be banned! :(

Fool, a bit more seriously, I don't want anyone banned from the board unless they truly try to destroy it. Jedi is not doing that, he needs the attention anyhow and I don't know where else he could get it.

I predict he's going to answer he's a genius and we need him. :p

Bjorn
3rd May 2003, 08:07 PM
Ooops! He posted how people love his threads already.

My prediction came through before it was even posted, do I qualify for the 1 million dollars? :p

The Fool
3rd May 2003, 08:36 PM
Originally posted by Jedi Knight
Look, first you guys spammed my threads and now when I post topics such as the one right beneath this one that has 144 replies in it, you say it is "spam" and it has no interest. Well, if it wasn't "interesting", why are dozens of people replying to it?

I think it is because people love my threads and they also love the information I provide.

If people agree or disagree, now is the time to speak up because the censors have arrived.

This thread is my Star of David and I wear it proudly. All the threads I have created are news sources exposing the perversionist left. I don't have a problem chatting about it, but why do you?

JK
The reason your threads got spammed was simply satire. Spam was being put in there because people saw the thread as being spam.

I have got no problem with you suggesting that there is a communist/feminist conspiracy behind virtually all world events. It could be easily debated in a single thread....If that thread dies and/or goes wandering off....then replace it.

However, I fail to see why you simply have to repost worldnetdaily news items on this board on a daily basis. I could post 6 threads a day, every day, saying that you post spam. Or I could post one thread proposing it and inviting a debate (which is what I'm doing).

Why do you need multiple threads every day to discuss the same issue?


An average week of Jedi on Jref....

here's a news item, commies are to blame
here's a news item, feminists are to blame
here's a news item, commies are to blame
here's a news item, feminists are to blame
here's a news item, commies are to blame
here's a news item, feminists are to blame
here's a news item, commies are to blame
here's a news item, feminists are to blame
here's a news item, commies are to blame
here's a news item, feminists are to blame
here's a news item, commies are to blame
here's a news item, feminists are to blame

Don't you ever get bored of the same old same old......?
As to why people respond to your threads.....take a read of them yourself Jedi, they are all the same. You have reduced yourself to an amusing pastime for a number of posters and you judge your worth by measuring volume of words.....Ok, you are the man, you can produce the greatest volume of words on this board. You still have not rivaled S&S's epic thread/s but I know you are trying....you just need a little more time.

Now you can go back to complaining of censorship...because, dammit, you must be free to not only say whatever you please....you must be free to repeat it over and over and over and over......whatever.

RandFan
3rd May 2003, 08:53 PM
I think there is a pattern and unfortunately it pushes other important issues asside. I'm against censorship and would be very upset if JK were to be censored. As much as I disagree with him and I personaly don't find allot of value in what he says I do value his right to say it.

That being said I would ask JK if he would consider not starting so many threads.

Jedi Knight
3rd May 2003, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by RandFan
I think there is a pattern and unfortunately it pushes other important issues asside. I'm against censorship and would be very upset if JK were to be censored. As much as I disagree with him and I personaly don't find allot of value in what he says I do value his right to say it.

That being said I would ask JK if he would consider not starting so many threads.

Count the threads in this forum through the first 50. I have "7" of those 50.

You guys are babies, whining about me having 7 threads in 50?!? :eek:

On the second page, I have "0" threads :eek:

So what is happening....you people just leftist angry tonight or is there another reason you are pissing down my back and telling me it is raining?

JK

Clancie
3rd May 2003, 09:01 PM
The problem is that JK's topics, on the surface, often appear interesting:

"Is the media unfair to Scott Peterson?"

"Are California's textbooks being poorly edited in a way that distorts the facts of American history?"

"Is there a double standard for child molestation when its done by a female or a male?"

But, unfortunately, I agree that these apparent topics aren't really the subject of the thread at all.

The constant posting of news items that have no connection with communism or feminist, along with a standard one or two line accusation that communists/feminists are to blame
They all do seem to follow that pattern, as do the follow-ups to others' responses.
Do we need thread after thread after thread saying the same thing (that a communist/Feminist conspiracy exists or that it is behind many world events)
A valid question.

Jedi Knight?

Jedi Knight
3rd May 2003, 09:02 PM
If anything, I should have more and more threads, not less of them.

JK

Supercharts
3rd May 2003, 09:04 PM
Why does "Pillory" get a pass?

RandFan
3rd May 2003, 09:15 PM
Originally posted by Jedi Knight
So what is happening....you people just leftist angry tonight or is there another reason you are pissing down my back and telling me it is raining? On the first page you have more than 25% of the threads. It is just my opinion but I think it is excesive. You don't need to bully me JK. I would gladly come to your defense if anyone tried to censor you. I asked out of a courtesy. I am entitled to my opinion. I do think it is exessive and it seems appropriate to ask. You can just tell me no.

Calling me leftist doesn't solve anything.

If everyone who posted, posted 7 threads each the forum would not be worth visiting and your exsessive threads are pushing other issues off of the front page.

Bjorn
3rd May 2003, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by Clancy
The problem is that JK's topics, on the surface, often appear interesting:

"Is the media unfair to Scott Peterson?"

"Are California's textbooks being poorly edited in a way that distorts the facts of American history?"

"Is there a double standard for child molestation when its done by a female or a male?"

But, unfortunately, I agree that these apparent topics aren't really the subject of the thread at all. Those topics are interesting, I agree.

But when the f++king posts turn out to be full of either some hate against women or some hate against some other group?

I never ever thought I was going to post: He needs help.

But there you go, I just proved myself wrong .... :confused:

Jedi Knight
3rd May 2003, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by RandFan
On the first page you have more than 25% of the threads. It is just my opinion but I think it is excesive. You don't need to bully me JK. I would gladly come to your defense if anyone tried to censor you. I asked out of a courtesy. I am entitled to my opinion. I do think it is exessive and it seems appropriate to ask. You can just tell me no.

Calling me leftist doesn't solve anything.

If everyone who posted, posted 7 threads each the forum would not be worth visiting and your exsessive threads are pushing other issues off of the front page.

Well bump them up then. What does that possibly have to do with my 7 posts? Thre reason my 7 posts are on the front page is because people are replying to them.

JK

Bjorn
3rd May 2003, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by Jedi Knight


Well bump them up then. What does that possibly have to do with my 7 posts? Thre reason my 7 posts are on the front page is because people are replying to them.

JK For once, I think you're right! :p

clk
3rd May 2003, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by Supercharts
Why does "Pillory" get a pass?

That's a valid point....but come on....everyone loves pillory :D

Jedi Knight
3rd May 2003, 09:41 PM
Is it time for another "should Jedi Knight stay on the forum" poll/thread? :D

Tell you what--I will make another one. Maybe it will be popular enough to make me go away.

JK

toddjh
3rd May 2003, 09:46 PM
How hard is it to just avoid reading things by JK, if you don't like them? Are 7 posts out of 50 really interfering with the forum? I've never understood why so many people want to ban and/or censor posters...what happened to simple restraint?

Jeremy

The Fool
3rd May 2003, 10:09 PM
Originally posted by toddjh
How hard is it to just avoid reading things by JK, if you don't like them? Are 7 posts out of 50 really interfering with the forum? I've never understood why so many people want to ban and/or censor posters...what happened to simple restraint?

Jeremy

Please be sure of one thing..I have not called for censorship or banning. I am simply putting my viewpoint that Jedi is spamming the board with repetative posts on the same topic (cominist/feminist conspiracy theory).

Jedi will no doubt wrap himself in self pity and claim he is being repressed by some conspiracy of posters....This is my opinion. I am interested in hearing from Jedi. I just don't need the same tired old conspiracy theory occupying so many threads.

You are capable of better JK, Please take this as sound advice rather than sulking or making yet another spurious claim that you are leaving.

JAR
3rd May 2003, 10:19 PM
The phenomenon of Jedi Knight's messages make up a huge portion of the appeal of going on this message board.

When I think of Jedi Knight's messages, I'm reminded of what Werner Hertzog said in the documentary, "My Best Fiend", concerning why people went to see Klaus Kinski's "Jesus Tour" where Klaus Kinski would go on a stage claiming he was Jesus.

He said something like, "People went to see it to see him rave mad like a lunatic."

QuarkChild
3rd May 2003, 10:35 PM
Originally posted by JAR
The phenomenon of Jedi Knight's messages make up a huge portion of the appeal of going on this message board.

I'm with JAR on this one. JK is a gem. I think his presence adds some interest and variety to the PC&E forum and as long as he's entertaining, I'll keep reading his posts. When he stops being entertaining (or my sense of humor matures), I'll stop. If you don't get anything out of his threads, don't read them! But don't try to take away the fun for the rest of us.

Baker
3rd May 2003, 10:35 PM
Originally posted by Supercharts
Why does "Pillory" get a pass?

This is a very valid point pillory’s threads are usually pointless and come from her many drinking binges she has.
She would have to be banned before jk.

DrBenway
3rd May 2003, 10:37 PM
Every Internet group I've followed has had its seasons of one or two persons talking a lot, followed by a period of "You talk too much" complaints.

Inevitably, someone then says, "If you don't like Mr. Big Mouth's posts, why don't you write about something that you, yourself, find interesting? Maybe people will respond, and a new discussion will start."

The "you talk too much" people then fall quiet for a spell, for some reason.

And so it goes, until it all repeats again.

This is the Way of the Internet.

DavidJames
3rd May 2003, 10:46 PM
If you want to read less from him, ignore him, like a new parent ignores a crying baby at night. He will eventual tire, realize his tantrums aren't getting a response and go to sleep.

Jedi Knight
3rd May 2003, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by DavidJames
If you want to read less from him, ignore him, like a new parent ignores a crying baby at night. He will eventual tire, realize his tantrums aren't getting a response and go to sleep.

I don't sleep much. I have to keep my eye on all the communist enemies around the world.

JK

Baker
3rd May 2003, 11:23 PM
I think as a sign of support I’m going to bump up every thread jk ever posted what do you guy’s say who is with me!:D

RandFan
3rd May 2003, 11:28 PM
Originally posted by Jedi Knight
Well bump them up then. What does that possibly have to do with my 7 posts? Thre reason my 7 posts are on the front page is because people are replying to them. I expressed my opinion and made a request. You have given your response. I have not called for action on the contrary I have said that I would be disapointed if any action was taken.

Why do I have to go around bumping threads?

schplurg
3rd May 2003, 11:54 PM
Well I'm kinda new here, but I like the guy. I think that a lot of his posts have good points in them, though sometimes the presentation seems kinda...well...JK-ish ;) Or Savage-ish? I don't think he's rude, certainly not as rude as some others here on either side of the political spectrum. He seems to remain good spirited even in the face of harsh criticism and insults. I have no opinion on whether there are too many JK threads. Today there's a bunch, but not often I think...

No more talking in the 3rd person, sorry...hey man you're cool with me, not that it matters what I say. I voted on your thread but didn't wanna respond there...seemed a little self serving for anyone to do more than just vote, but since you didn't start this thread, here I am.

People may be offended by your views, but I believe that, for the most part, people choose to be offended. A direct insult is a different thing (well it's rude anyways), and you're pretty restrained in that department, at least I think so. This place wouldn't be the same that's for sure.

Speaking of Mike Savage, I feel similar about him in some ways, in fact maybe you're him? ;) I agree with a lot of his basic points, but his extreme "conspiratory attitude"...well I don't know how to describe it actually, but his presentation detracts from his message sometimes. Actually a LOT of the times, for me. Of course he's more to the right than I am too. I hear people on the radio from the left do the same thing.

I think there are people on this board that have a one track mind or agenda as well, and are irritating and rude to boot. I don't think you're either of the latter two. BTW, I don't think I have the right to analyze someone like this on these boards and I feel uncomfortable doing it (but doing it anyways), but then I haven't read all 5,000+ of your posts either like many others probably have!

Stick around. If I don't like what I'm reading I'll hit the back button...or tell you to f**k off, then hit the back button ;)

Lemastre
4th May 2003, 03:40 AM
Any attempt to criticize or inhibit Mr Knight is obviously a plot by commie feminists, allied with feminist commies, to stifle free speech. Until Mr Knight qualifies for Medicare (a feminist commie/commie feminist scheme to waste everyone's taxes?), he needs this forum as a sort of free psychiatrist's couch on which to unload his rants. And, like psychiatrists, we need not listen.

NightG1
4th May 2003, 04:03 AM
Originally posted by Jedi Knight

You guys are babies, whining about me having 7 threads in 50?!? :eek:
JK

Unlike you who whined to the Mods about Jon and Crossbow "spamming" your threads. Hypocite.

Ian Osborne
4th May 2003, 06:19 AM
I still say its down to his underpants being too tight...

max
4th May 2003, 10:09 AM
Stop oinking Jedi. Other posters have far more threads. Dark Cobra, Shemp other posters post threads.......get lost Fool

Jedi Knight
4th May 2003, 10:14 AM
Originally posted by NightG1


Unlike you who whined to the Mods about Jon and Crossbow "spamming" your threads. Hypocite.

Anus-sniffer, they spammed my threads and when I spammed them back it was they who reported me. Get some fresh air sometime and certainly get your facts straight.

I have never reported anyone, ever, to the moderators of this forum for any reason.

JK

The Central Scrutinizer
4th May 2003, 03:35 PM
Originally posted by Supercharts
Why does "Pillory" get a pass?

Because he is a lot smarter than JK.

The Fool
4th May 2003, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by max
Stop oinking Jedi. Other posters have far more threads. Dark Cobra, Shemp other posters post threads.......get lost Fool

Hi Max.
Its good to see you posting again, that last little paint thinner drinking session doesn't seem to have done too much damage to the old brain cells.

I believe you said that if jedi left you would too...Is that true? or was it another paint thinner inspired post?

The Fool
4th May 2003, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by Max

Other posters have far more threads




ok now max...pay attention, I'm only going to explain this once....Volume of posts is not the issue. It is repetition, I'll say that again ...repetition, get the Idea?

Bjorn
4th May 2003, 08:45 PM
Fool,

I've been away for a few hours (from the moment Jedi gave himself the last and deciding vote to leave) - but how is your voting going?

'Do it Fool' - did it die with Jedi's exodus? :p

The Fool
4th May 2003, 09:18 PM
Originally posted by Bjorn
Fool,

I've been away for a few hours (from the moment Jedi gave himself the last and deciding vote to leave) - but how is your voting going?

'Do it Fool' - did it die with Jedi's exodus? :p
sorry Bjorn, to quote win "your vote does not count" as the condition of the offer is that you must vote in the correct thread. No, I am not going to tell you which is the correct thread....:)

Bjorn
4th May 2003, 09:37 PM
Originally posted by The Fool
sorry Bjorn, to quote win "your vote does not count" as the condition of the offer is that you must vote in the correct thread. No, I am not going to tell you which is the correct thread....:) Hehe. Check it out. :cool:

Checkmite
5th May 2003, 06:39 AM
Despite JK's penchant for claiming connections of some feminazi conspiracy to just about everything he posts, I don't consider those posts "spam".

For exampe, in one of his threads, the topic was women who get pregnant by having sex with minors. The premise was why there seemed to be a double-standard; that is, male adults being penalized, and not female adults. This is an interesting topic, I think, and we were beginning to discuss it. In another topic, the discussion was whether an educator's job makes him obligated to avoid certain activities (like visiting topless bars). The topics are different.

I voted "no" when Jedi asked if we wanted him to leave. I've been overruled - but I don't find Jedi's alleged "spam" to be near as bad as other recent examples.