Split From: Psychics and Missing People

[WanderinWTF]

I have split these posts from the Psychics and Missing People (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=52101) thread.

has anyone heard of probability and sequence ever being used in finding a missing person

[Kelly]

has anyone heard of probability and sequence ever being used in finding a missing person

Is this a question?

I suspect that this really is meant for a new topic. Why not present your skills there and see what everyone thinks of them?

[WanderinWTF]

I'll let post #38 stand as a warning. This person just probably read "mother of missing" and didn't go on from there. I will give them the benefit of the doubt.

If they persisted in PMing me, I would report them.


i cant believe you put this are you saying that you are warning anyone that offers help in any way that you will just turn your head in the opposite direction i said that i dont want any money or anything at all i dont care about money i help people thats what i do thats all that i need you could of atleast sent me some links for someone who actually cares just to let you know i spent a lot of time reading and looking at more than 1 case when i said that your a great person i take that back now after i read what you say on your sight i thought wow shes a great person doing that for nebraska but after reading what you put here i know you didnt write those things on your sight im sure someone else did it for you and i like where it says HOW CAN I HELP? and then it only says about giving money you even say how you can take money from lots of states plus all providences of canada WTF

[WanderinWTF]

the reason i even sent a pm was cause i had just been reading for hours and if i didnt atleast to do something i wouldnt have been able to close my eyes and sleep

[LostSoul]

i cant believe you put this are you saying that you are warning anyone that offers help in any way....

Just offers of woo woo help, which is no help at all. Read the OP.

..and i like where it says HOW CAN I HELP? and then it only says about giving money you even say how you can take money from lots of states plus all providences of canada WTF

Simple, non-profits run on donations of both money and other services. And before you say you are offering a service, no your not.

[chillzero]

i cant believe you put this are you saying that you are warning anyone that offers help in any way that you will just turn your head in the opposite direction ...(etc.. lots of words with no punctuation)

I can't believe that it would even cross your mind to criticise a person like this. How can you read a post by someone that says what it does and then write what you have done?
Something terrible happens to some familes, such as a child being stolen, and what makes matters worse than the loss, the grief, the horrible things imagination can bring to your nightmares, the exhausting hope, and the treacherous inability to fix a really bad situation, are the people who crawl out from the woodwork and force themselves into the lives of those already suffering. Total strangers come and act like old family friends and claim to be able to help, when they can't.

How dare you even contemplate anything other than practical help? Practical help means publicity for what KellyJ is trying to do, or financial assistance if you can offer it to her or any of the places setup to help families in such horrendous situations. How dare you even question this?

It is an honour that KellyJ felt that this site was worth utilising to help her in her situation, and her quest to assist families; hopefully help some from abuse by scam merchants. I am so glad in my heart to see that she has found some support and assistance. I am disgusted by your ill mannered attitude to her, and by your further aggressive response here.

I say again, how dare you?

[elaine]

How dare you even contemplate anything other than practical help? Practical help means publicity for what KellyJ is trying to do, or financial assistance if you can offer it to her or any of the places setup to help families in such horrendous situations. How dare you even question this?

It is an honour that KellyJ felt that this site was worth utilising to help her in her situation, and her quest to assist families; hopefully help some from abuse by scam merchants. I am so glad in my heart to see that she has found some support and assistance. I am disgusted by your ill mannered attitude to her, and by your further aggressive response here.

I say again, how dare you?

Good job cabby!! What's up with people who make other people's stuff all about them?

[Luke T.]

i cant believe you put this are you saying that you are warning anyone that offers help in any way that you will just turn your head in the opposite direction i said that i dont want any money or anything at all i dont care about money i help people thats what i do thats all that i need you could of atleast sent me some links for someone who actually cares just to let you know i spent a lot of time reading and looking at more than 1 case when i said that your a great person i take that back now after i read what you say on your sight i thought wow shes a great person doing that for nebraska but after reading what you put here i know you didnt write those things on your sight im sure someone else did it for you and i like where it says HOW CAN I HELP? and then it only says about giving money you even say how you can take money from lots of states plus all providences of canada WTF

WanderinWTF, in my opinion there are two kinds of "psychics". Those who are fake and know they are fake, and those who believe they really are psychic.

In either case, there is no evidence to support psychic phenomenon as genuine. None. This is a subject that I, and many others here, have explored to great depths.

I will give you the benefit of the doubt and work on the assumption that you are someone who really believes they have psychic ability and wishes to help someone in distress, and I will try to treat you with respect. Fair enough?

If you believe you are really psychic, then you probably allow yourself a great deal of mind wandering and daydreaming that you interpret to be visions of some importance or having association to real world events.

The sheer number of these "visions", along with highly conditioned selective recall of those which coincided with real world events in even the remotest way, has probably reinforced your belief in your psychic ability.

I am not going to try to talk you out of your belief. But I will be honest with you and tell you that my belief is that such people are sadly and seriously deluded.

KellyJ has expressed her strong opinion that psychics are of no use in locating missing people. Therefore, she and other parents of missing children resent the unwelcome and unsolicited intrusion into their lives by people claiming to have psychic powers and offering their services.

She has been crystal clear on this point.

So what in the world possessed you to do the very thing she has stated in no uncertain terms that she finds extremely offensive?

If you had honest intentions of helping and not harming, why did you do harm?

If you want to help, then please cease and desist immediately.

If you believe I am wrong on your psychic ability, the man who runs this foundation has a million dollars he would like to give to you. Seriously. Fill out the application and state exactly what it is you can do that is so special, take the test, and walk away with a million dollars that you can use to help others or yourself in any way you feel needs to be done.

Edited to add: And if you aren't in it for the money, take the test for the sake of psychics everywhere to prove this phenomenon is real and to shut people like me up.

[Gr8wight]

i cant believe you put this are you saying that you are warning anyone that offers help in any way that you will just turn your head in the opposite direction i said that i dont want any money or anything at all i dont care about money i help people thats what i do thats all that i need you could of atleast sent me some links for someone who actually cares just to let you know i spent a lot of time reading and looking at more than 1 case when i said that your a great person i take that back now after i read what you say on your sight i thought wow shes a great person doing that for nebraska but after reading what you put here i know you didnt write those things on your sight im sure someone else did it for you and i like where it says HOW CAN I HELP? and then it only says about giving money you even say how you can take money from lots of states plus all providences of canada WTF

WanderinWTF, period. Period, WanderingWTF. I just know you two are going to hit it off.

[Blue Bubble]

WanderinWTF, period. Period, WanderingWTF. I just know you two are going to hit it off.

I think we have to put a full stop to this.

[coalesce]

i cant believe you put this are you saying that you are warning anyone that offers help in any way that you will just turn your head in the opposite direction i said that i dont want any money or anything at all i dont care about money i help people thats what i do thats all that i need you could of atleast sent me some links for someone who actually cares just to let you know i spent a lot of time reading and looking at more than 1 case when i said that your a great person i take that back now after i read what you say on your sight i thought wow shes a great person doing that for nebraska but after reading what you put here i know you didnt write those things on your sight im sure someone else did it for you and i like where it says HOW CAN I HELP? and then it only says about giving money you even say how you can take money from lots of states plus all providences of canada WTF

Am I the only one who hears "Sabre Dance" and "Flight Of The Bumblebee" played simultaneously at 78RPM while reading this post? WanderinWTF, I don't know what to say. Actually, I do, but I don't want to be banned, so I'll leave it at that.

KellyJ, my heart goes out to you and your family. Have you thought of setting up an PayPal account for your site so people can make donations through that?

Michael

[DSE]

i cant believe you put this are you saying that you are warning anyone that offers help in any way that you will just turn your head in the opposite direction i said that i dont want any money or anything at all i dont care about money i help people thats what i do thats all that i need you could of atleast sent me some links for someone who actually cares just to let you know i spent a lot of time reading and looking at more than 1 case when i said that your a great person i take that back now after i read what you say on your sight i thought wow shes a great person doing that for nebraska but after reading what you put here i know you didnt write those things on your sight im sure someone else did it for you and i like where it says HOW CAN I HELP? and then it only says about giving money you even say how you can take money from lots of states plus all providences of canada WTF
WanderinWTF,

Whatever you believe about your own abilities, KellyJ has made clear that she is not interested in have a Psychics contact her. Why would you do that unless you were intentionally trying to offend her and the other people in the forum?

[Ducky]

WanderinWTF,

Whatever you believe about your own abilities, KellyJ has made clear that she is not interested in have a Psychics contact her. Why would you do that unless you were intentionally trying to offend her and the other people in the forum?


:tr:

[WanderinWTF]

Kelly,

[QUOTE]I don’t often get moved by many things but your plight and the dignity and eloquence you show in handling it are truly inspiring.



I offer up my sincerest hope that your son is found and your situation resolved.

WanderinWTF,

People here have been FAR too kind.

yes but what else would you expect from the GREATEST and most inteligent POWERFUL PEOPLE IN THE WORLD in one place
Your pathetically worded and ridiculous ramble shows what a complete semi-literate moron you are.
i know i cant write never had to really i only did things dealing with MATH when i went to school i did it so good never needed to learn how 2 write well i guess i thought that at the time writing was something i didnt need then i got older and realised man if only i knew how to put my thoughts in words

You probably do think you have some sort of[QUOTE] “power”.. you sound too stupid to realise dreaming and coincidences are just NORMAL.

im far from stupid i dont dream that much nowadays i wish i dreamed more i miss is so much
I would have let your inanity slide except you DARED to have a go at Kelly for casting some perceived slight on you. Kelly should have hit you with both barrels instead she treated you with FAR more respect than you deserved. KalKalatedRisC

I have NEVER called for the banning of someone, anywhere, anytime, any forum, any topic… but you are a complete waste of space and should be removed …
im not a waste of space im just space THE SPACE BETWEEN GOOD AND EVIL
Others

My faith in this site (and most of its members) has been renewed yet again.. except for that idiot Wanderin.. the responses have been fantastic.


idiot ;p) yes they have havn't they

[WanderinWTF]

WanderinWTF,

Whatever you believe about your own abilities, KellyJ has made clear that she is not interested in have a Psychics contact her. Why would you do that unless you were intentionally trying to offend her and the other people in the forum?

i dont consider myself a psychic they make me sick they always have well maybe just the phonybalony ones ;p) when i first contacted her it felt right to offer help cant help it i have to no matter what its just me to always offer help when really i contacted her for her to help me with things i need and to help with i know she can help me better than anyone else can what i already knew and seen everyone has gotten the opportunity to see

[Mariah]

Everyone: I.G.N.O.R.E.

[WanderinWTF]

Am I the only one who hears "Sabre Dance" and "Flight Of The Bumblebee" played simultaneously at 78RPM while reading this post? WanderinWTF, I don't know what to say. Actually, I do, but I don't want to be banned, so I'll leave it at that.

KellyJ, my heart goes out to you and your family. Have you thought of setting up an PayPal account for your site so people can make donations through that?

Michael
3x10exp8ms is what i was thinking Micheal pls pm me and tell me what you want to say i really want to know what you think its important to me cause just remember its never what you say but its what you never forget

[WanderinWTF]

Everyone: I.G.N.O.R.E.


you all can if you like i understand i do want you all to just know that i didnt write that i typed it but it wasnt my words that were put there i dont remember writing during it i remember wanting to reply what i would have put if i did a reply would just be why did you just post a piece from a pm that nobody can see the original but just a piece

[WanderinWTF]

A little late, but... Welcome KellyJ!

I must say, you are a class act. Coming here to speak your mind/heart on a subject so painful is inspiring (and your diplomatic handling of WTF - well said!). I'm glad someone like you is able to take a stand against the psychic scum that feeds off the grief of others. If the "skeptic community" takes a stand, we might simply come off as closed-minded wet-blankets out to prove our own superiority. You are an example - to show that these psychics are not only ineffective, but also harmful.

Though a skeptic, I don't come down hard on much of the "woo" out there - with the exception of psychic detectives and the likes of John Edward and Silvia Browne. (Must... contain... bile.....)

Keep up the good work! And I hope we see more of you.


im no psychic i only do math its probability and sequence the same method
that one person used i think its name was nastradamus except i can go back also not just forward like him

[WanderinWTF]

I think that may be my defacto response to everything that idiot posts.


hi fowlsound just think your the first one to call me names

[WanderinWTF]

KellyJ,

I just want to repeat what so many here have said. Welcome, and thank you for doing what you are doing. It is a valuable service. My heart aches for the agony you must go through daily. I am full of admiration for your strength, tact and wisdom. If there is anything that I can do to help your cause, I will try to do it.

I hope to attend TAM next year, too. If you can come, I promise I'll bring you chocolate :)

WanderinWTF
Hasn't your own performance here just proven that you have no gift, and you have no idea what "help" even means? If you really want to be helpful to the world, why don't you seek out a therapist to help you figure out why you are so pathetically insecure as to seek out a person in great emotional pain and distress and try to make her pay attention to you by doing the exact thing that she has requested people NOT do? And when she told you to go away, you attack her as "not caring"??????

You are an idiot. Go away.

Meg


i didnt want to help her the way i need to help the child's case on her sight and she never asked me which one if she would have asked maybe then she would know why i did contact her because it is totally differant situation than her own and differant pertaining to who gets hurt by those quacks

[WanderinWTF]

Kelly I second that Language nomination.

Also, I would point out WanderinWTF also thinks his "powers" can cure back pain. (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=1431127#post1431127) Pay no attention to that troll.



no i cant cure back pain i was onto something else and was seeing where it was gonna take me im sorry and pls dont hurt me

[meg]

You want to help the child? Go to your local police station. Tell them the child's name you want to "help" and tell them whatever information you think you have.

Quit posting here.

[JPK]

Good morning WanderinWTF.

i didnt want to help her the way i need to help the child's case on her sight and she never asked me which one if she would have asked maybe then she would know why i did contact her because it is totally differant situation than her own and differant pertaining to who gets hurt by those quacks

Is english your native language? Perhaps something is getting lost in the translation.
JPK

[Luke T.]

i didnt want to help her the way i need to help the child's case on her sight and she never asked me which one if she would have asked maybe then she would know why i did contact her because it is totally differant situation than her own and differant pertaining to who gets hurt by those quacks

Let's review what you said to KellyJ:

i figure things out sometimes it just comes to me maybe you could send me things with pictures and any information with the cases or pictures of items also like personal belongings

while i was reading about a missing child i knew right away what prob happend and as i read i was right

Predator.

[WanderinWTF]

WanderinWTF, in my opinion there are two kinds of "psychics". Those who are fake and know they are fake, and those who believe they really are psychic.

[QUOTE]In either case, there is no evidence to support psychic phenomenon as genuine. None. This is a subject that I, and many others here, have explored to great depths.im no psychic will you help me so i can explore i need a few things i need a printout of all the registered sex offenders in and non registered sex offenders (this is verry important)in washing and oregon from 2000 till now in this i also need the dates of those that entered prision and paroled and violation dates pls

I will give you the benefit of the doubt and work on the assumption that you are someone who really believes they have psychic ability and wishes to help someone in distress, and I will try to treat you with respect. Fair enough?im no psychic however i know i can help everyone with any type of stress and anger and hatred pain the pain that is deep so deep its invisible to the normal persons eye its hefs its only hef now after i prove this i will add the s myself

If you believe you are really psychic, then you probably allow yourself a great deal of mind wandering and daydreaming that you interpret to be visions of some importance or having association to real world events.you seem to be off a little i dont wander or daydream by choice visions are nothing to me i have gotten something close to visions but i wouldnt call them visions they have sounds and patterns of life conecting everything together

The sheer number of these "visions", along with highly conditioned selective recall of those which coincided with real world events in even the remotest way, has probably reinforced your belief in your psychic ability.i dont think its possible and could be wasted when doing this this way to hard to recon to get a % confortable with would take many years maybe even lifetimes to do this so i think those visions are someone elses visions they need to be told right away hoping the right person will eventually receive it

I am not going to try to talk you out of your belief. But I will be honest with you and tell you that my belief is that such people are sadly and seriously deluded.

KellyJ has expressed her strong opinion that psychics are of no use in locating missing people. Therefore, she and other parents of missing children resent the unwelcome and unsolicited intrusion into their lives by people claiming to have psychic powers and offering their services.

its a differant situation what i need is help for a child not a parent of a mission child but a child themselves
She has been crystal clear on this point.yes i know

So what in the world possessed you to do the very thing she has stated in no uncertain terms that she finds extremely offensive?

If you had honest intentions of helping and not harming, why did you do harm?

If you want to help, then please cease and desist immediately.




If you believe I am wrong on your psychic ability, the man who runs this foundation has a million dollars he would like to give to you. Seriously. Fill out the application and state exactly what it is you can do that is so special, take the test, and walk away with a million dollars that you can use to help others or yourself in any way you feel needs to be done.

i dont know if he actually wants to give a million away come on now would you want to give a million away i know i wouldnt maybe it was offered for he could find someone or for someone to find him maybe while having fun and laffs till it happends
Edited to add: And if you aren't in it for the money, take the test for the sake of psychics everywhere to prove this phenomenon is real and to shut people like me up. if the time is right i might do something however i dont like the word tests and i dont see a challenge in it really i have been passing tests guessing for a long time or guess enough right for the math to even everything else out ;p) i never cared to be the smartest or the greatest but to do just enough was fine for me when it came to tests

[delphi_ote]

i cant believe you put this are you saying that you are warning anyone that offers help in any way that you will just turn your head in the opposite direction i said that i dont want any money or anything at all i dont care about money i help people thats what i do thats all that i need you could of atleast sent me some links for someone who actually cares just to let you know i spent a lot of time reading and looking at more than 1 case when i said that your a great person i take that back now after i read what you say on your sight i thought wow shes a great person doing that for nebraska but after reading what you put here i know you didnt write those things on your sight im sure someone else did it for you and i like where it says HOW CAN I HELP? and then it only says about giving money you even say how you can take money from lots of states plus all providences of canada WTF

http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2002/20021011h.gif

[WanderinWTF]

Let's review what you said to KellyJ:



Predator.

there was a lot of information on it a whole lot i litterly spent hours reading of all the cases its the only one people leave meaning to things the reason i said about the pics cause when i read a diff case it wasnt up to date and i noticed something when i checked a differant page it showed what was missing

[delphi_ote]

there was a lot of information on it a whole lot i litterly spent hours reading of all the cases its the only one people leave meaning to things the reason i said about the pics cause when i read a diff case it wasnt up to date and i noticed something when i checked a differant page it showed what was missing

There is no way this person is 25 years old. We've got a troll on our hands.

I just hope he never does a spell check. The JREF server might explode.

[WanderinWTF]

2 days ago i sold my truck today im gettin a car and takin care of this matter and gonna travel in just a few more days and did that one kramer leave here if he did i hope JR asked him 2 splienda

[ChristineR]

i dont know if he actually wants to give a million away come on now would you want to give a million away i know i wouldnt maybe it was offered for he could find someone or for someone to find him maybe while having fun and laffs till it happends


Mr. Randi has a worldwide reputation. The million dollars was provided by various donors, and is completely documented on this site. Randi has numerous times entered into binding legal contracts where he promised he would give away the million if the claiment could pass a simple test of psychic ability. All information about the tests is made public.

The only thing special about Randi's tests is that are not subject to interpretation and they are protected against cheating. NO ONE has passed the tests, or even come close.

My belief is that you are misinterpreting your gut feelings as psychic phenomena, and that you have nothing to offer beyond what KellyJ and the police have already done.

I think it unfortunate that so many cruel comments are being made here, but you obviously don't appreciate the magnitude of what you are doing. Try to imagine if you yourself were in such an awful situation and some mentally ill stranger kept calling you and insisting that he knew what had happened to your son, despite the fact that it was clear the stranger knew nothing and that his "information" was wrong.

I suggest that you concentrate on the million dollar prize. If it's true that you can read a book and that people nearby can tell what you have read, that is easy to test. If you pass the test, you will get the money, and a lot of respect from posters here, and then perhaps KellyJ will be willing to talk to you.

If you fail the test, you will have an opportunity to examine where you delusions came from and to consider how you may have inadverntantly harmed people like KellyJ.

Fair enough?

[farrisjs]

Being new to this forum and forums in general the concept of a troll is new to me.

Is Wanderin.. completely disconnected with realilty ? Does he realize he's not saying anything?

[WanderinWTF]

Mr. Randi has a worldwide reputation. The million dollars was provided by various donors, and is completely documented on this site. Randi has numerous times entered into binding legal contracts where he promised he would give away the million if the claiment could pass a simple test of psychic ability. All information about the tests is made public.

The only thing special about Randi's tests is that are not subject to interpretation and they are protected against cheating. NO ONE has passed the tests, or even come close.

My belief is that you are misinterpreting your gut feelings as psychic phenomena, and that you have nothing to offer beyond what KellyJ and the police have already done.

I think it unfortunate that so many cruel comments are being made here, but you obviously don't appreciate the magnitude of what you are doing. Try to imagine if you yourself were in such an awful situation and some mentally ill stranger kept calling you and insisting that he knew what had happened to your son, despite the fact that it was clear the stranger knew nothing and that his "information" was wrong.

I suggest that you concentrate on the million dollar prize. If it's true that you can read a book and that people nearby can tell what you have read, that is easy to test. If you pass the test, you will get the money, and a lot of respect from posters here, and then perhaps KellyJ will be willing to talk to you.

If you fail the test, you will have an opportunity to examine where you delusions came from and to consider how you may have inadverntantly harmed people like KellyJ.

Fair enough?


ya well imagine that something happend to a child and it wasnt a stranger involved imagine their own dad or dads girlfriend now what so who is there left to help find what happend to this kid after state try then the federal what else is there who else is there i know what it is i just need to find who and where in a few days ;p)

[Katachresis]

Being new to this forum and forums in general the concept of a troll is new to me.

Is Wanderin.. completely disconnected with realilty ? Does he realize he's not saying anything?

farrisjs, I used the Urban Dictionary when I first saw the term.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll

As for intent, I have no idea.

[farrisjs]

I'm beginning to get angry at WanderinWTF.

These is such a good thread with alot of good info except for some rambling nonsense by Wanderin.

[farrisjs]

farrisjs, I used the Urban Dictionary when I first saw the term.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll

As for intent, I have no idea.

Thanks for the info.

[ChristineR]

ya well imagine that something happend to a child and it wasnt a stranger involved imagine their own dad or dads girlfriend now what so who is there left to help find what happend to this kid after state try then the federal what else is there who else is there i know what it is i just need to find who and where in a few days ;p)

What has this got to do with anything? I am sure KellyJ--and the police--have considered the possibility that her son was harmed by someone he knew. I can't imagine how painful this must have been--it hurts just to type about it. Why would a complete stranger, making guesses, be able to detect this tragic situation when the police and the persons close to the missing person could not? Remember, we have yet to establish that you or anyone has any real psychic powers. In fact the evidence is strongly against it.

If you have psychic powers, prove it first! Until then, we must assume you are self-deluded and treat you harshly!

[Katachresis]

Also,
Everyone: I.G.N.O.R.E.

I at first missed the subtle humor in this post. Mariah used more periods in that post than someone else ever has.

I've never put anyone on ignore, but it's easy.

Click the name, View Public Profile, then a few inches down on the right it says "Add xxxxxxxxx to Your Ignore List" in white letters.

I might just have to this time.

[sophia8]

I've never put anyone on ignore, but it's easy.
Click the name, View Public Profile, then a few inches down on the right it says "Add xxxxxxxxx to Your Ignore List" in white letters.

Thanks for that info, K. Yes, it was easy!

[Mercutio]

I've never put anyone on ignore, but it's easy.

Click the name, View Public Profile, then a few inches down on the right it says "Add xxxxxxxxx to Your Ignore List" in white letters.
This is worth repeating, in this case. Moderators can't put people on ignore, but frankly, this is a case where virtually everyone else should.

[chillzero]

Moderators can't put people on ignore, but frankly, this is a case where virtually everyone else should.

Yes they can.

It's called suspension. It can develop into banning under the right circumstances.

[De_Bunk]

WanderinWTF....

You are all that is wrong in this world...Evil...Deceptive...A liar...

Unless you are mentally ill and truly believe you talk to dead things...

Which are you...?

An evil, deceptive liar....or a mental case....?

YOU have zero proof of what you claim

YOU can never, ever prove what you claim

YOU firmly believe that you talk to dead things

YOU are either insane or a liar...

YOU prey on the vunerable..but not this time...you were put right back in your place with the rest of the kooks

YOU make me want to vomit...

Now go away...and play with the rest of the kooks


You nasty little piece of work..you couldnt even be bothered reading the whole thread...Thats how intelligent you really are...

Psychic help...

Yeh...

Right...

My boot...Yo' nuts...

DB

[WanderinWTF]

People I Know You Dont Understand Me Noone Never Has Or Ever Will I Never Want Anyone To Ever Try

All Im Asking Is To Just Believe This One Time Within 2 Days Im Traveling Over A Couple Of States To Do What Was Meant For Me To Do It Was Given To Me A Couple Months Ago With Just A Few Letters Rq Hefs To This Was A Mystery I Had No Idea What These Letters Meant What It Was Or Why I Needed To Finally Know When I Got Here I Knew This Was Connected With This Sight As Well As The Sight That Had The Link That Brought Me Here So The 2nd Half I Knew The S I Didnt Till Just Now I Broke This Code The S Is For Surgery When I Came Here First Thing I Seen Was A Report On Jr The Amazing Randi So I Read More And More Hef If You Dont Know When I Put It Up For Help I Didnt See Anyone Post It It Means Human Energy Fields When I Put Hefs In A Search It Came Up When I Read A Article On That Article Page It Had The Link To Here From Hef Human Energy Fields Led Me To Jr The Amazing Randi Which After Time And Patients I Finally Did The Rq Which Was The Reason I Was Sent Here Just Days Bfore I Came Here I Had A Very High Temptature Highest I Ever Had That I Remember I Dont Get Sick I Felt I Wasnt Sick Just Had A Real High Temp For Some Reason But I Still Did What I Needed To Do I Remember The Saturday Night Before I Came Here My Temp Had Gotten To 102.9 That Night My Dad Still Wanted Me To Take Him To The Gym And I Did With A Temp Of 102.9 I Sat In A Hot Tub For Nearly An Hour Then Went Home Me Im A Fighter For Everyone No Matter Who It Is And That Night I Fought Long And Hard All Night Long I Got To The Point I Couldnt Breathe It Got Bad The Whole Time I Never Once Got Scared About Anything Or Questioned What I Live By And My Beliefs I Knew I Wasnt Fighting This Alone Then I Realised It Wasnt My Fight But I Was Fighting It For Someone Else And Would Do For Anyone At Anytime Im Sorry If No One Understands Me

All I Ask For Everyone Right Now Is To Just Be Positive Towards Me Pls Because I Need All The Help I Can Get These Next Few Days I Just Sold My Truck 2 Days Ago Yesterday My Dad Told Me About How Someone Offered Him A Car To Buy Im Buying This Car Today I Already Drove It It Will Get Me Across The States I Need Everything To Me Is Falling Into Place With Iam Gonna Do This Rather You Think Im Crazy Or Not Pls Atleast Give Me The Benifit Of The Doubt That I Will Acomplish This Pls Thats All I Need And I Just Want To Let You All Know When I Go I Know I Wont Be Alone

After Im Done I Will Show Everyone That Hef Is Real I Will Do This By Giving A Massage To Anyone Who Is Stressed Or Has So Much Build Up That It Needs Help Their Is Nothing For This Noone You Can No Doctor Noone Except Me I Can Do This I Have Been Doing For A While I Take Their Bad Emotions And Bring It To My Self I Will Give My Proof With 24 Hours I Will Tell You How This Person Feels What They Do When Feeling Like This How It Escalates Then I Give To This Person A Resolution A Activity To Do To Be Able To Realease All The Negative Energy From That Point On Giveng Them Their Proper Treatment The Treatment Everyone Should Get The Way Everyone Has Wanted For Ever For The Doctor To Feel What They Feel Like I Love Each And Everyone Of You

[The Central Scrutinizer]

i cant believe you put this are you saying that you are warning anyone that offers help in any way that you will just turn your head in the opposite direction i said that i dont want any money or anything at all i dont care about money i help people thats what i do thats all that i need you could of atleast sent me some links for someone who actually cares just to let you know i spent a lot of time reading and looking at more than 1 case when i said that your a great person i take that back now after i read what you say on your sight i thought wow shes a great person doing that for nebraska but after reading what you put here i know you didnt write those things on your sight im sure someone else did it for you and i like where it says HOW CAN I HELP? and then it only says about giving money you even say how you can take money from lots of states plus all providences of canada WTF

Let me introduce you to a new concept - it's called a "period". It looks like this: ".". It is used to end sentences.

[WanderinWTF]

WanderinWTF....

You are all that is wrong in this world...Evil...Deceptive...A liar...

Unless you are mentally ill and truly believe you talk to dead things...

Which are you...?

An evil, deceptive liar....or a mental case....?

YOU have zero proof of what you claim

YOU can never, ever prove what you claim

YOU firmly believe that you talk to dead things

YOU are either insane or a liar...

YOU prey on the vunerable..but not this time...you were put right back in your place with the rest of the kooks

YOU make me want to vomit...

Now go away...and play with the rest of the kooks


You nasty little piece of work..you couldnt even be bothered reading the whole thread...Thats how intelligent you really are...

Psychic help...

Yeh...

Right...

My boot...Yo' nuts...

DB
WOW DEAD THINGS NO I NEVER TALK TO DEAD THINGS I NEVER HAVE FOR 10 YEARS I HAVE BEEN GOING THOUGH KUNDALINI AND DIDNT EVEN KNOW THIS JUST 2 DAYS AGO I READ ABOUT THIS LOOKED AT THE SIGNS AND SYMPTOMS HIT ON EVERYONE 100% NUMBERS DONT LIE GO AND LOOK AT WHAT THEY CAN DO I CAN DO THIS I KNOW THAT SINCE I HAD NO IDEA OF WHAT WAS GOING ON I NEVER TRYED TO FORCE SOMETHING TO HAPPEN SO IT NEVER GOT OUT OF CONTROL TO SOON BUT RATHER I LET TIME DO ITS THING

[WanderinWTF]

Now I Know How Jesus Felt And What Everyone Thought Of Him And Said To Him And I Was Also Born When Virgin Mary Was Born To Be Born Again

[Mercutio]

WOW [snip]
I strongly suggest opening a new thread to discuss what it is that you do. I also strongly suggest leaving this thread. Permanently.

These are my personal suggestions, not official moderator ones as yet.

[The_Fire]

Great. Now all we need is twitster claiming to be a disciple of SillyRamblingWoot and screaming "stalker" at me and I'm in complete dejavu about someone I had a brawl with online a couple of months ago....

ETA: Follow Mercutios advice wanderingWTF......

[Mariah]

[quote=Mercutio;1465338]I strongly suggest opening a new thread to discuss what it is that you do. I also strongly suggest leaving this thread. Permanently.

I agree, and frivolous commentary shouldn't be encouraged by responding on and on to drivel and heckling on the new thread. Those who keep responding are as responsible as the heckler. This is a serious subject. I've begun a new thread under "Dr. Susan Blackmore." I and others have done quite a bit of work in response to KellyJ's request, and I for one, will bow out if another thread is mired down as this one has been.

[Kelly]

Wanderin,

I am going to ask you one more time to start your own thread. This thread is not about you or your claimed abilities.

(Perhaps a moderator can take the posts made by Wanderin today and place those on that new thread. They are cluttering this one.)

Wanderin, I am going to tell you this one last time.

I will not do research for you, contact families of the missing for you, nor tell them about you. You are strictly on your own with this. You can research sex offenders online yourself.

Unless you are going to contribute by providing information about the damage done by persons claiming paranormal abilities to families of the missing, then I ask you to stop posting here immediately. It is apparent that you have nothing to offer in that respect, so cease and desist. I do not want you to reply to what I am posting now. I want you to comply. Period.

Speaking of period, WHEN you start your own thread, it may help you to be understood by others by starting each new sentence with a capital letter and ending each sentence with either a period, a question mark, or an exclamation point, depending on what you are trying to convey. If you are going to start talking about something different, then begin a new paragraph.

From years of teaching literacy students, a trick I recommend to you is to read each sentence outloud and see if it makes sense. If not, rewrite it. This will help you be understood by others. (In case you don't know what a literacy student is, that is a person who does not know how to read and write.)

If you continue to post here, I will report you to the moderators.

Kelly

[WanderinWTF]

Those connected to the skeptical cause know that Dr. Susan Blackmore of the UK is an internationally-known scientist and proponent of rational thinking. No one--no one--has investigated claims of the paranormal for as long or as thoroughly as Susan Blackmore. She began her career with the aim of proving psi exists, and ended it after three decades of finding no evidence.

I'm pleased she responded to my email requesting her take on the issue of psychic detectives.

A brief bio of Dr. Blackmore, followed by her statement to us:

Sue Blackmore is a freelance writer, lecturer and broadcaster, and a Visiting Lecturer at the University of the West of England, Bristol. She has a degree in psychology and physiology from Oxford University (1973) and a PhD in parapsychology from the University of Surrey (1980). Her research interests include memes (http://www.susanblackmore.co.uk/memetics/index.htm), evolutionary theory, consciousness, and meditation. Sue Blackmore no longer works on the paranormal.

She writes for several magazines and newspapers, and is a frequent contributor and presenter on radio and television (http://www.susanblackmore.co.uk/media.htm). She is author of over sixty academic articles, about forty book contributions, and many book reviews. Her books (http://forums.randi.org/publicat.htm#Books) include Beyond the Body (1982), Dying to Live (on near-death experiences, 1993), In Search of the Light (autobiography, 1996), and Test Your Psychic Powers (with Adam Hart-Davis, 1997).
The Meme Machine (1999) has been translated into 13 other languages. Her textbook Consciousness: An Introduction was published in June 2003 (Hodder UK, OUP New York), and A Very Short Introduction to Consciousness in 2005 (OUP). Her latest book is Conversations on Consciousness (November 2005 OUP Oxford) published in January 2006.

Back in 2000, in cleaning out her files and declaring that she had given up investigating the paranormal she said, "I found no psychic phenomena - only wishful thinking, self-deception, experimental error and, occasionally, fraud. I became a sceptic."


When I shared KellyJ's personal story and Project Jason with Dr. Blackmore, she went to the website and blog and read it thoroughly. Her sympathy with Kelly's situation was palpable, even over email. In offering us the following statement, however, she wanted to make sure we understood that she in no way endorses religion.


"I investigated psychics and psychic claims for 30 years. In all that time I never encountered convincing evidence of any psychic powers. I met many friendly and pleasant psychics who made false claims while apparently genuinely believing in their powers; they were self-deluded as well as misleading others. I also met a few out-and-out frauds whose harm cannot easily be exaggerated. They prey on the bereaved, the fearful and the vulnerable to extract large sums of money under false pretences. The tricks they use need to be exposed and people helped to avoid being sucked into their clutches." ---Dr. Susan Blackmore.
SHE HAS BEEN DOING IT ALL WRONG ITS NOT ANYTHING HIDDEN ITS MATH PROBABILTY AND SEQUENCE DONE IN MIND ITS TO HOW FAR YOU CAN TAKE IT FOR EVERY ACTION THERE IS A REACTION THEN ANOTHER AND ANOTHER FOR ME I CAN FAR I MEAN FAR FOR MY FRIEND I WENT 30 DAYS AND TOLD HIM WHAT WAS GONNA HAPPEN WHEN HOW HE WAS GONNA FEEL THEN HOW TO PREVENT IT AND WHY IT WAS GONNA HAPPEN AND WHO THE PERSON WOULD BE EACH TIME I SEEN MY FRIEND BETWEEN THOSE 30 DAYS I SEEN IF HE WAS LISTENING TO ME AND I MADE IT VERRY CLEAR AS TO WHAT WAS GONNA HAPPEN AFTER IT DID HE DIDNT WANT TO TELL ME WHEN HE FINALLY DID HE KEPT SAYING IM GONNA KILL HIM OVER IT I AM THAT MEANT SO MUCH TO ME NO MONEY COULD PAY FOR WHAT I FEEL IM JUST GONNA KILL HIM I SAID NO YOUR NOT FOR OUR LESSON WE JUST LEARNED WAS WORTH MORE THAN ANYTHING NEIL ANYTHING THAT COULD BE IN MY POSSESION ANYTHING THEN ISAID NEIL GRAB THAT BIBLE I DONT READ THE BIBLE I ONLY DO WITH 2 PEOPLE AND THEY READ IT FOR ME I DONT I SAID WE CAN DO THIS YOU GIVE ME A COUPLE LETTERS TO CHOOSE FROM I CHOSE E HE WENT TO ECCLESIASTES CH 3VERSE3 33 WAS THE NUMBER I SEEN EVERYWHERE I GO WHEN I SEE SOMEONE THAT NEEDS IT I SHOW EM IF I WAS YOU ATHEIST OR NOT YOU SHOULD ATLEAST WHAT IT IS FOR THERE IS A TIME FOR EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN

MY FAVORITE THERES A TIME TO KILL AND ATIME TO HEAL THERES A TIME BUILD UP AND A TIME TO BREAK DOWN CH3VERSE3



FOR ME I GET SO MUCH ENERGY OVER MY COMP THOUGH THE INTERNET SOMEDAY I WONT NEED TO LEAVE MY COMP TO HEAL SOMEONE I COULD DID OVER THE NET WHEN I PREDICT A DECK OF CARDS I HIT 33 THE FIRST TIME IM HAPPY WITH THAT NUMBER

[De_Bunk]

WanderinWTF...

Quote..

"WOW DEAD THINGS NO I NEVER TALK TO DEAD THINGS I NEVER HAVE FOR 10 YEARS I HAVE BEEN GOING THOUGH KUNDALINI..."


'Kundalini'.....Whats that?...Some kind of Vulcan meditation
ritual....Klingon rite of passage into manhood...???

You are what i said you are...One or the other...

Now get back down in the basement and practice your Kundalini...or pretend you're 'Darth Maul' or something...

Fool...Your nonsense aint worth reading anymore...

Try SkepticalCommunity board...they are much more accomodating over there.......:eye-poppi

Be sure to look me up......:hit:


DB

[WanderinWTF]

WanderinWTF...

Quote..

"WOW DEAD THINGS NO I NEVER TALK TO DEAD THINGS I NEVER HAVE FOR 10 YEARS I HAVE BEEN GOING THOUGH KUNDALINI..."


'Kundalini'.....Whats that?...Some kind of Vulcan meditation
ritual....Klingon rite of passage into manhood...???

You are what i said you are...One or the other...

Now get back down in the basement and practice your Kundalini...or pretend you're 'Darth Maul' or something...

Fool...Your nonsense aint worth reading anymore...

Try SkepticalCommunity board...they are much more accomodating over there.......:eye-poppi

Be sure to look me up......:hit:


DB
PUT THAT OUT PLS I CANT STAND THE SMOKE

[De_Bunk]

WanderinWTF...

Oh yeh...I forgot...

BYE........(cos' you certainly aint long for this board)

DB

[J. Arthur Hastur]

SHE HAS BEEN DOING IT ALL WRONG ITS NOT ANYTHING HIDDEN ITS MATH PROBABILTY............

Dude, lay off the caps lock and put down the crack pipe.

[Katachresis]

print it on orange paper, just to eliminate that Tit..Sup.. thingy.

[NoZed Avenger]

Moderators:

If there was ever a situation that cried out to have posts separated into their own thread, this is one.

[jj]

WanderinWTF....

...

Which are you...?

An evil, deceptive liar....or a mental case....?


He could be both, you know. That's a classic example of the fallacy of the excluded middle!

You should know better!

[jj]

Wanderin,

I am going to ask you one more time to start your own thread. This thread is not about you or your claimed abilities.

KellyJ, you have my deepest apologies for replying to some of the nonsense he's engendered in your thread. All I can say is that I find him and his responses somewhere between infuriating and completely lunatical.

I have no way to help you find your son that the police or authorities don't have 10x the resources for. I'm sorry. I have kids too, and the thought alone is bad enough. While I don't have a lot of free time, I very much like the idea of a web site to argue against the psychic predators who converge on people in your situation. Roadtoad and Hutch know how to get ahold of me.

[Roadtoad]

hi fowlsound just think your the first one to call me names

Fine. Let me be the second. D***head.

[alfaniner]

Stronn superiod of the first more the surface of the past.Elvis has been at fewspaper, nor gone the world when their appear and something and one person.

(created using DASHER, just randomly letting the letters flow. It makes just about as much sense.)

Dasher home (http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher/)

[Gr8wight]

I think we have to put a full stop to this.

I just want to point out that I was remiss in not congratulating Blue Bubble on this response. I was simply angry that I could not think of an appropriate reply.

[Roadtoad]

Oh, Geez, are we STILL giving any space to the intellectual twaddle this mindless dolt insists on spewing?

YO, D***LESS DIMWIT! Do us a favor and LEAVE!

[HeyLeroy]

Thanks, Darat.

[WanderinWTF]

Fine. Let me be the second. D***head.
failure ;p) i prefer the 4

[Roadtoad]

Okay by me. In the meantime, f*** off.